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[Newton Gimmick]

Where has anything said that the NECA stuff is cancelled because of the Playmates stuff?

Sounds like someone just made that up. The NECA license was very broad. The only thing they couldn't make toys of was the current cartoon stuff.

I doubt there is a conflict of interest at all.

[Archon_Turtle]

Originally Posted by Newton Gimmick

I doubt there is a conflict of interest at all.

It is more an emotional issue than a legal one. It is simply a "dick move".

[Raph'N'Roll]

Those playmates figures aren't bad, they remind me of Michael Dooney's art too.
I can't blame NECA for being pissed, they should alone have had the rights to the comic book look, their proffits from a second line will surely be affected by this, although I did only see NECA figs in record and comic shops, no toy shops in Ireland carried them.
I hope they still go ahead and release more figs anyway.

Those cartoon pics that are throughout the nintendo power article, and feature the guys with red bandanas, I wonder are they from the animated special that's coming out next year?

[BigApple3AM]

Originally Posted by Newton Gimmick

Where has anything said that the NECA stuff is cancelled because of the Playmates stuff?

Sounds like someone just made that up. The NECA license was very broad. The only thing they couldn't make toys of was the current cartoon stuff.

I doubt there is a conflict of interest at all.

Seems like a big conflict of interest since before the deal playmates wasn't making any comic figures and now after NECA has put out one wave Playmates has plans for several. Read my post about Jazwares v Sota.

And I don't think Vaughn is going to be happy you called his source just made up. Read his post too, pretty sure he gets his info from Murphy or someone closer to what's going on.

[Newton Gimmick]

Murphy has wrote time and time again about how NECA failed to deliver on their promises.

And NECA's wave 1 is done. It's no longer in stores. So Playmates doing similar figures now, won't effect their sales.

NECA should have gotten their stuff together much sooner. You snooze, you lose as they say.

And most of the speculation here caused the sudden outrage that Playmates had killed the NECA figures, which is why I said it sounded made up. You immediately said that Ecto, before Vaughn had even posted. NECA's cutting off of communication with Mirage has been going on for quite some time. So I don't see how that can correlate with Playmates.

Both companies can put out 25th figures. The 25th anniversary is shaping up to be a big thing and kudos to Playmates for doing some interesting stuff.

[BigApple3AM]

Originally Posted by Newton Gimmick

Murphy has wrote time and time again about how NECA failed to deliver on their promises.

And NECA's wave 1 is done. It's no longer in stores. So Playmates doing similar figures now, won't effect their sales.

NECA should have gotten their stuff together much sooner. You snooze, you lose as they say.

And most of the speculation here caused the sudden outrage that Playmates had killed the NECA figures, which is why I said it sounded made up. You immediately said that Ecto, before Vaughn had even posted. NECA's cutting off of communication with Mirage has been going on for quite some time. So I don't see how that can correlate with Playmates.

Both companies can put out 25th figures. The 25th anniversary is shaping up to be a big thing and kudos to Playmates for doing some interesting stuff.

No I didn't, I said I hope these don't replace NECA's stuff, and then Vaughn confirmed it, at which point I got angry. Before that I was indifferent. I agree NECA's lack of communication is pretty appalling, but they've always been that way, with customers, with comic shops (I used to work at a comic store, my friend the manager says they're ridiculous on the phone), they're just not very professional.

From what we've heard it sounds like Playmates didn't have any interest in comic figures. Please tell me what they've done with the literally dozens of figures they keep showing off but don't release. They've been snoozing worse than NECA. We don't even know if NECA was going to manufacture those figures but can't. I'd love for someone from Mirage/Playmates/NECA to speak out but they aren't so they're taking heat for it. And since no one is speaking out I'm siding with NECA because on face value it looks like they're getting shoved out of the picture. You're siding with Playmates/Mirage with the same exact information, and that's ok, we just disagree.

Also NECA wave 1 is still in stores, my comic store was able to reorder more wave 1, and the black and white box sets just came out. Series 2 should be coming out or out already but we don't know what happened behind the scenes. The sales effected will be lack of NECA series 1 product selling at the comic stores now, which would hurt future orders. I got a call from the comic store friend and he said everyone was excited and some people were even cheering in the store... (I'm honest to God not making this up).

And while the 25th anniversary is for the comic, they're also celebrating all the TMNT history. Instead of reissuing the original figures new toon figures (instead of a second, worse version of comic figures) would have been awesome!

Of course if NECA can continue and does, and we get series 2, then I have no problems at all. But if in any way/shape/form series 2 is canceled because of those playmates figures, then I'm going to be very angry at all of them because there is no way Playmates will EVER match the quality of those figures. Those are sculpts by the freaking four horsemen dude.

[Newton Gimmick]

Well I understand that you've made up your mind to hate whatever Playmates does, but that doesn't change the facts.

It's also no surprise to me that Playmates decided to go a similar route, since the moment the NECA figures came about everyone on the Earth said "Why couldn't Playmates do stuff like that?", so why get upset when they do?

The first few posts here were total speculation and were loosely "confirmed" from Vaughn. That's hardly what I'd call a signed, sealed story and reason for anyone to go get the pitchforks.

NECA isn't sending these figures out to retail anymore. You may be able to get them to comic shops, but NECA's spots on mass store shelves like FYE are alloted to other stuff now.

If NECA chooses not to make anymore figures that's NECA's fault, not Playmates. It'd be a pretty stupid move on NECA's part as well. But you can't fault Playmates for trying to make a buck and for trying to celebrate the 25th of TMNT.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by Newton Gimmick

Well I understand that you've made up your mind to hate whatever Playmates does, but that doesn't change the facts.

It's also no surprise to me that Playmates decided to go a similar route, since the moment the NECA figures came about everyone on the Earth said "Why couldn't Playmates do stuff like that?", so why get upset when they do?

The first few posts here were total speculation and were loosely "confirmed" from Vaughn. That's hardly what I'd call a signed, sealed story and reason for anyone to go get the pitchforks.

NECA isn't sending these figures out to retail anymore. You may be able to get them to comic shops, but NECA's spots on mass store shelves like FYE are alloted to other stuff now.

If NECA chooses not to make anymore figures that's NECA's fault, not Playmates. It'd be a pretty stupid move on NECA's part as well. But you can't fault Playmates for trying to make a buck and for trying to celebrate the 25th of TMNT.

What I don't think you understand, is the deal with NECA was basically a stroke of luck that Mirage was able to circumnavigate Playmates on. Laird confirmed as much in an interview. Playmates was reportedly pissed when they found out about the deal by and large, and that's when all of this rubbish started.

[CudleyCowlick]

I've been watching this thread with growing concern and horror, feeling like I don't have anything to contribute.

And well, I still don't. But I just want to say that if I never get NECA series 2, then I'll never forgive them OR Playmates. If it's true that there is no legal reason for NECA not to release it, and it's just sour grapes, then they should BURN.

It's almost enough to make me want to start focusing solely on the comics and original art from now on. I can't even look at my vintage figs without feeling sick and betrayed, knowing what that company has become. But while I know I'll continue to collect the figs put out from 88-98, Playmates can count on never earning another cent from me ever again. I hope they all go bankrupt, homeless, and die a long slow death from starvation and exposure to the elements.

[Archon_Turtle]

Originally Posted by CudleyCowlick

I hope they all go bankrupt, homeless, and die a long slow death from starvation and exposure to the elements.

So how do you really feel?

[BoggleKng]

I have been out of the Turtle loop. Can someone explain the issue to me? Or at least the short and dirty version of the story?

[BigApple3AM]

Originally Posted by Newton Gimmick

Well I understand that you've made up your mind to hate whatever Playmates does, but that doesn't change the facts.

Just as I understand you have some blind love for them, because I didn't see any facts in your post. Just more excuses.

I guess you didn't see me post this a couple days ago:


Yeah, certainly made up my mind to hate Playmates

If playmates made the comic figures first, I'd understand. But they're being reactionary here. They've made garbage, and for a while they weren't even planning on making comic figures. It looks like they canceled a lot of their upcoming figures. Again we're not going to make any headway until we get more facts from one of the 3 companies. So don't pretend like you're right and everyone else is wrong.

[Newton Gimmick]

LOL, you clearly have never read anything I've ever posted, but nice try.

[Newton Gimmick]

Originally Posted by BoggleKng

I have been out of the Turtle loop. Can someone explain the issue to me? Or at least the short and dirty version of the story?

Playmates is making some 25th Anniversary figures, they're based on the classic comic designs. This may have hurt NECA's feelings and may be why we haven't seen series 2 yet. Although this is unconfirmed beyond a minor blurb from Vaughn that lacked details.

Since then, everyone has been doing their usual Playmates + Mirage = Everything wrong with TMNT rant that fills pretty much every other topic on this site.

[Ninjinister]

Why don't we just said all parties involved f***ed up and call it a day?

[Blade Raider]

Originally Posted by The Ninjinister

Why don't we just said all parties involved f***ed up and call it a day?

Best idea I've heard all day.

[Lil G]

I think those comic Playmates toys look okay. Might get them just for the hell of it. Although i am always going to support neca more no matter what. playmates screwed us up. *breaths hard and gets calm*

[Archon_Turtle]

Originally Posted by Blade Raider

Best idea I've heard all day.

I second that.

[Newton Gimmick]

Good job editing your post and going back on your positions Ecto.

Seriously, why are you arguing with me again? The only person being reactionary here is you mate.

[Archon_Turtle]

Originally Posted by Newton Gimmick

Good job editing your post and going back on your positions Ecto.

Seriously, why are you arguing with me again? The only person being reactionary here is you mate.

Why are either of you arguing? Srsly. Personal attacks can easily be made in PMs KKthx.