The End of Tales of the TMNT?

[trustno1]

so garys messing around is the bullet in the stomach and diamond will be the mercy kill?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Roseangelo

Gee, someone didn't read the second link.

Why are you so mean to me?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by trustno1

so garys messing around is the bullet in the stomach and diamond will be the mercy kill?

I don't know if I'd look at it that way. But in many ways... the TMNT as a franchise has had its kneecaps blown out from the image the larger-media has created and continues to encourage. If even the comic books go away then that, my friends, is truly the final bullet to the brain. The last bastion.

For the foreseeable future.

[Buslady]

they should just go internet with it all. it's cheaper to post it, I'll pay cover price for each issue, I don't care. I want my TMNT!

[Dragon Turtle]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I don't know if I'd look at it that way. But in many ways... the TMNT as a franchise has had its kneecaps blown out from the image the larger-media has created and continues to encourage. If even the comic books go away then that, my friends, is truly the final bullet to the brain. The last bastion.

For the foreseeable future.

The TMNT comic franchise has been damaged more by Mirage's neglect then the larger-media, not even Marvel or DC can keep an ongoing comic going after a two year lay off.

[DMC362]

At my comic shop the only turtle comics sold are the ones me and another guy have on our pull list. He stop displaying the comics years ago because of low sales. because of this there are no back issues to speak of.

I am looking forward to the Universe book and Forever War

[notebook]

yknow, given its relative geographic proximity to mirage hq, it's pretty ironic that i live in boston and have to do all my tmnt shopping, from action figures to comics, online. us fans dont have to be told to buy the comics, cause as fans, we (generally) will. its just too bad grabbing a wider audience doesn't seem to be part of the game plan.

tales is great. it reminds me of archie but with better writing, art, and layouts. it would be unfortunate to see it go,as it really is the most consistent tmnt title i've ever read (i havent read vol. 2-4 yet, and probably wont unless they get collected)

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by DMC362

At my comic shop the only turtle comics sold are the ones me and another guy have on our pull list. He stop displaying the comics years ago because of low sales. because of this there are no back issues to speak of.

And no stores in Washington that I've been to carry the comic anymore outside of special order. One guy I asked, "Spy Comics" I think in Federal Way, not long after the last movie came out told me that he "couldn't pay to give the TMNT comics away," let alone put them on his shelves anymore. Ouch.

[Ninjinister]

Comic Book Ink in Tacoma had the movie prequels and adaptation on the shelves, as well as the Raphael mini-series, but other than that I have to request the series.

[Cipher]

I've found a comic shop in my hometown that has by far the most extensive collection of everything I've ever seen. Last time I was home I grabbed a large haul of both new and (very) old TMNT issues. But I understand that's the irregularity and trades in bookstores should've been a priority years ago.

[Kendamu]

So, in otherwords, to contribute to the numbers needed to keep it alive I shouldn't buy directly from Mirage anymore?

[Roseangelo]

Originally Posted by aden

tales is great. it reminds me of archie but with better writing, art, and layouts. it would be unfortunate to see it go,as it really is the most consistent tmnt title i've ever read (i havent read vol. 2-4 yet, and probably wont unless they get collected)

Wow, I couldn't disagree with these statements more.

Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

So, in otherwords, to contribute to the numbers needed to keep it alive I shouldn't buy directly from Mirage anymore?

Is there a reason you wouldn't get it locally? It'd be considerably cheaper for you.

Here's another list for people to digest. It's the top 50 independent comics of December, not necessarily all of which are in the top 300 overall. TMNT ain't in sight.

[OA]

You know, I'm a frequent member at other comic book forums and most people don't even KNOW that the TMNT have a title out right now. I mean, these are hardcore fans of the media in general, where they pick up loads of books spanning various titles and publishers, from DC to Marvel to Indies, etc. And these people for the most part have no cluse theres a book out.

And that IMO is what Mirage needs. Sure the casual fan walking through the bookstore might pick up a trade or 2 and the hardcore fans like us will buy directly from them. But what they need to go is go back to basics, go after the what originally brought them success: the comic fan. These are the ones who'll keep coming back for more books. Most of those top selling books are bought by people who are into a wide variety of titles. Back in the day, CBG and other outlets were the way to go. I don't have the awswers to how they should get the word, but what they are doing right not is definately not working.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Originally Posted by The Ninjinister

As I've said before, TMNT related comics are the only ones I actively collect these days, and if they go under, I have no reason to visit my local CBG except maybe a couple of times a year. I may pick up HeroClix, an issue of Hellboy or two, and/or a character guide when I'm there, but the TMNT is the reason I go.

Now Heroclix is gone too.

As much as I like having a physical copy of a comic, going digital would be a lot better than nothing at all.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by The Ninjinister

Comic Book Ink in Tacoma

That place any good, by the way? Lots of backissue bins for older comics (like DC and such)?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man

As much as I like having a physical copy of a comic, going digital would be a lot better than nothing at all.

I dunno... without a tangible, printed, published copy, I think I wouldn't give an online-only comic the same attention. In fact, I probably wouldn't look at it in a light too much unlike fanfiction.

And I hate being chained to a computer to read anything. I want to be able to lay on my belly on my bed, drinking martinis and turning pages, or sitting on the deck with a comic, smoking a cigarette... I don't want a comic book to hold me hostage at a monitor.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I dunno... without a tangible, printed, published copy, I think I wouldn't give an online-only comic the same attention. In fact, I probably wouldn't look at it in a light too much unlike fanfiction.

Even though it's coming from Mirage?

I'm not too much of a fan of digital comics either, but if that's what it would take to keep the TMNT comics coming...

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man

Even though it's coming from Mirage?

Yeah. I mean, does anyone really hold "Muscle & Faith" in the same regard or standing as the other comics (or to ask a follow-up question, did anyone even know it existed/exists until I mentioned it just now? i mean, aside from me, Spengler, Rose, and 2-3 fellow diehard fans?)?

It's not really fair, but the answer is no... and the answer is inexorably linked to it having been a web-only deal. And I'm not jumping on the "it's better than nothing" bandwagon. It kind of feels like -- to me -- for example, if you're a guy who enjoys having sex with an attractive woman on a regular basis (I do)... say, suddenly you face the prospect of going to prison. While someone might say to you that pounding your cellmate from behind might be "better than nothing"... I say it's probably just not going to be the same.

But this is just my thoughts. Regardless, if TMNT went online-only like a lemming I'd probably pay the $2 or whatever to download the damn PDFs. Like a geek, though, I'd probably find ways to arrange the pages and print them and staple them and bag and board them on my own. I bet some of you guys would, too.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man

Now Heroclix is gone too.

Wait, what?

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

That place any good, by the way? Lots of backissue bins for older comics (like DC and such)?

There's a lot of backissue bins, but I couldn't tell you the contents. I just go in, get what I need, and get out.

[Dragon Turtle]

Originally Posted by TMNTerminator

And that IMO is what Mirage needs. Sure the casual fan walking through the bookstore might pick up a trade or 2 and the hardcore fans like us will buy directly from them. But what they need to go is go back to basics, go after the what originally brought them success: the comic fan. These are the ones who'll keep coming back for more books. Most of those top selling books are bought by people who are into a wide variety of titles. Back in the day, CBG and other outlets were the way to go. I don't have the awswers to how they should get the word, but what they are doing right not is definately not working.

The first thing Mirage needs to do is to have someone is out there constantly pushing the books towards comicbook related websites, magazines, and conventions, ideally that person would be Peter Laird, since his name would be a bigger draw then anyone else.

Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man

Even though it's coming from Mirage?

I'm not too much of a fan of digital comics either, but if that's what it would take to keep the TMNT comics coming...

It would be nice to have brand new digital comics at the ninjaturtles website, but if Mirage decides to close up shop, they would probably farm out the TMNT comics to another publisher.