the channel six characters in Red Sky

*Sage Ninja* · 02-04-2009, 01:37 PM

If every one remembers the last three seasons of the classic toon, commonly known as "Red Sky" you'll know that most of the channel six characters Burns Thomas, Vernon, and Irma where fazed out of the series completely. (Even April was getting pushed to the back ground in these later seasons.)

With the new tone red sky was going for, I guess it was inevtiable that these guys where dropped and no longer served any more purpose. But does anyone think they could have been used instead of dropped like they did?

It seemed like in Red Sky the channel six characters where getting their characters made over to be more menacing and bitter. Burn's was launching a campaign to show the turtles to the public as monsters that where the cause of all the cites problems as an act of vengence for their hand in destroying his channel six building and Vernon was delberately telling lies about them on tv. Then suddenly they where dropped and never seen again when April cut off ties with channel six and went freelance. Do you think instead of dropping them colpletely that the channel six people could have been used more in Red Sky instead of being completely dropped from the series?

Canadian Turtle · 02-04-2009, 02:01 PM

Unfortunately I have never had the chance to see the "Red Sky" episodes yet, as I am waiting for the DVD's (so ask me in 5 years).

This is interesting, as I have always wondered where they were going with the story at the end, where would have they gone, had the show stayed on? This is something I will be asking those powers that be come Monday, I hope things like this pop up in the documentary for everyone!

*CyberCubed* · 02-04-2009, 03:18 PM

I'll make it simple for you:

The main reason Vernon, Irma and Burne were phased out is because Shredder blew up the Channel 6 building, April lost her job, and April took a new job as a freelance reporter.

Since April no longer had anything to do with Channel 6, the characters associated with it were no longer needed. Also, Vernon and Irma in particular were used for a lot of comedy in the series, and since the show was becoming more serious, they couldn't fit into the story.

The show was changing completely by that point though, hence Shredder/Krang also being phased out for Lord Dregg.

TheUltimateShredhead · 02-04-2009, 05:40 PM

Well, the red sky era of the series was a time for change so why not skip out on some sidekicks.

*ZariusTwo* · 02-04-2009, 07:49 PM

Bure and Vernon always walked a tightrope in the series. When Channel Six was thrashed, they didnt change much, they just reverted back to form after a period of complaicency. The Vernon seen in "Shredderville" manifesting was a strong example of his racist side that the Turtles feared would manifest and abuse the journalistic influence that aspect of his personality had the right to use.

TheUltimateShredhead · 02-05-2009, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Bure and Vernon always walked a tightrope in the series. When Channel Six was thrashed, they didnt change much, they just reverted back to form after a period of complaicency. The Vernon seen in "Shredderville" manifesting was a strong example of his racist side that the Turtles feared would manifest and abuse the journalistic influence that aspect of his personality had the right to use.

How does rasism come in here?

*ZariusTwo* · 02-05-2009, 01:30 PM

Vernon was spreading anti-mutant propaganda in "Shredderville"

TheUltimateShredhead · 02-05-2009, 05:33 PM

hmm... i thought rasism only was within the human kind

Well, im not gonna argue, after all the turtles are under several occations defined half human.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 02-05-2009, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OrokuSaki123

How does rasism come in here?

Shredderville is much a parody of racism and dictatorship states. The entire TMNT concept deals a lot with man's fear of the different.

*ZariusTwo* · 02-05-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OrokuSaki123

hmm... i thought rasism only was within the human kind

Yes, because you know how a dog, ape, cat, or other creature thinks

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 02-06-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Canadian Turtle

Unfortunately I have never had the chance to see the "Red Sky" episodes yet, as I am waiting for the DVD's (so ask me in 5 years).

This is interesting, as I have always wondered where they were going with the story at the end, where would have they gone, had the show stayed on? This is something I will be asking those powers that be come Monday, I hope things like this pop up in the documentary for everyone!

The first DVD already had some Red Sky episodes.

TheUltimateShredhead · 02-06-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by J 1982

Shredderville is much a parody of racism and dictatorship states. The entire TMNT concept deals a lot with man's fear of the different.

I see. good resonating, weird i didn't pick that up

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Yes, because you know how a dog, ape, cat, or other creature thinks

hehe... i was thinking about the dictonary term, but i've heard about rasistic incidence in the animal world to

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 02-06-2009, 04:43 PM

I would like to see April and Irma in their leisure.

TheUltimateShredhead · 02-07-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by J 1982

I would like to see April and Irma in their leisure.

April tried, but she ended up in one off Dregg's schemes so she failed anyway

02-04-2009, 01:37 PM	#1
Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,926	the channel six characters in Red Sky If every one remembers the last three seasons of the classic toon, commonly known as "Red Sky" you'll know that most of the channel six characters Burns Thomas, Vernon, and Irma where fazed out of the series completely. (Even April was getting pushed to the back ground in these later seasons.) With the new tone red sky was going for, I guess it was inevtiable that these guys where dropped and no longer served any more purpose. But does anyone think they could have been used instead of dropped like they did? It seemed like in Red Sky the channel six characters where getting their characters made over to be more menacing and bitter. Burn's was launching a campaign to show the turtles to the public as monsters that where the cause of all the cites problems as an act of vengence for their hand in destroying his channel six building and Vernon was delberately telling lies about them on tv. Then suddenly they where dropped and never seen again when April cut off ties with channel six and went freelance. Do you think instead of dropping them colpletely that the channel six people could have been used more in Red Sky instead of being completely dropped from the series? __________________ Cassandra: You won't fight me, but will you fight--for him! Cassandra's Revenge ~Tangled the Series ________________________________ http://frankviola.org/2012/01/30/godsviewofawoman/ _______________________________ http://nox-artemis.tumblr.com/post/4...k-and-feminism

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ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,479	Bure and Vernon always walked a tightrope in the series. When Channel Six was thrashed, they didnt change much, they just reverted back to form after a period of complaicency. The Vernon seen in "Shredderville" manifesting was a strong example of his racist side that the Turtles feared would manifest and abuse the journalistic influence that aspect of his personality had the right to use. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

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02-06-2009, 04:43 PM	#13
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,481	Irma I would like to see April and Irma in their leisure.

02-04-2009, 03:18 PM	#3
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,869	I'll make it simple for you: The main reason Vernon, Irma and Burne were phased out is because Shredder blew up the Channel 6 building, April lost her job, and April took a new job as a freelance reporter. Since April no longer had anything to do with Channel 6, the characters associated with it were no longer needed. Also, Vernon and Irma in particular were used for a lot of comedy in the series, and since the show was becoming more serious, they couldn't fit into the story. The show was changing completely by that point though, hence Shredder/Krang also being phased out for Lord Dregg.

02-04-2009, 05:40 PM	#4
TheUltimateShredhead Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 642	Well, the red sky era of the series was a time for change so why not skip out on some sidekicks.

02-05-2009, 05:33 PM	#8
TheUltimateShredhead Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 642	hmm... i thought rasism only was within the human kind Well, im not gonna argue, after all the turtles are under several occations defined half human.