Do you think the franchise would last another 20 years?

[Extreme_Enigma]

Title says it all.

[Coola Yagami]

Uhhhhhhhhhh............. *the turtle fan in him doesn't wanna say it*

[Andrew NDB]

Yes. But mostly in the cyclical nature of children's cartoons. Reboot, restart, children stop buying the toys, wait another 5 years, repeat, reboot, start, etc. etc..

Ideally, at some point the (movie, television-as-a-mini-series) rights will get swooped up by someone that respects the source material and the TMNT could evolve into something more endearing in the mainstream... but it's a very difficult thing to put a timetable on.

[Dragon Turtle]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Yes. But mostly in the cyclical nature of children's cartoons. Reboot, restart, children stop buying the toys, wait another 5 years, repeat, reboot, start, etc. etc..

Ideally, at some point the (movie, television-as-a-mini-series) rights will get swooped up by someone that respects the source material and the TMNT could evolve into something more endearing in the mainstream... but it's a very difficult thing to put a timetable on.

Only if and when Mirage wants that to happen.

[CyberCubed]

Uh, in another 20 years Peter Laird will be 74.

I think by then TMNT will be passed on to someone.

[Extreme_Enigma]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Uh, in another 20 years Peter Laird will be 74.

I think by then TMNT will be passed on to someone.

That could happen? So if that happens then ... the franchise will never die?

I DON'T GET IT!!!!!!

Can a franchise ever die?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Extreme_Enigma

Can a franchise ever die?

Yeah, happens all the time. Doesn't mean it can't come back eventually.

[Extreme_Enigma]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Yeah, happens all the time. Doesn't mean it can't come back eventually.

I meant permanently dead.

[Buslady]

Even *IF* the franchise dies out, no more toons, comics, etc. it' the fans that keep it alive. We get creative, (no matter how warped & twisted some might be) WE keep it alive and...and sometimes fans revivie a franchise and it's reborn.
Now if only a fan was in the biz and took it to a new level creating an intelligent non-kiddie tv show (or a movie) with a QUALITY production and not treat it like a kiddie property!


Woo! 4,000th post!

[Coola Yagami]

Problem is.. if the TMNT do come back.. how old will we be then? I mean most of us are in our 30's now. Won't we all be too old to care about the Turtles by the time they have a third rising?

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Problem is.. if the TMNT do come back.. how old will we be then? I mean most of us are in our 30's now. Won't we all be too old to care about the Turtles by the time they have a third rising?

Speak for yourselves.

I'm only 23!

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Problem is.. if the TMNT do come back.. how old will we be then? I mean most of us are in our 30's now. Won't we all be too old to care about the Turtles by the time they have a third rising?

Most of us haven't been in the target demographic for TMNT for over a decade (only talking about the larger media here... comics today don't exist for children as they did a decade ago, it's strictly a collector's, non-newstand market now), even if it were to go for a more mature audience. Nonetheless, if they put out something that's more mature... I'm saying it would make for something that's more enduring without the need for this constant cycle of "Uh oh, another generation outgrew the TMNT again! Time to let it sleep and then repackage it for another generation of little kids in a few years!"

That some of us old, jaded fans might jump on board for the ride can only be the icing on the cake.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Why not? Read this:

Batman begun in 1939 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman)
Phantom begun in 1936 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_(comics))
Spider-Man begun in 1962 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider_Man)
Superman begun in 1938 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman)

[CyberCubed]

But the question is, can TMNT become another Batman and Superman?

Mirage isn't DC or Marvel, they're a small independent comics company.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by J 1982

Why not? Read this:

Batman begun in 1939 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman)
Phantom begun in 1936 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_(comics))
Spider-Man begun in 1962 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider_Man)
Superman begun in 1938 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman)

True, but how many of us were born in the 30's or even the 60's?

[Doc_ock_4mugen]

Hopefully in the next "Life" of TMNT either Playmates gets their butts in gear and deliver DECENT FIGURES fit for the 21st century or the license falls into more capable hands... (Toy Biz/Marvel Toys, dare I say Hasbro, Mattel?) Backed by a decent animated series, like the first season of the 2k3 toon. Hopefully a Decent Movie, closer to the comics.

[Cipher]

I'm with Andrew. I have no doubt that the Turtles can continue to come back through a chain of repeated children's marketing endeavors, but if we want them to be an everpresent force like Batman or Superman they need to, like Batman and Superman, be public knowledge on multiple levels. People need to know that even though there's a kid's cartoon on the air that there are still Turtle comics out there, etc.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Originally Posted by J 1982

Why not? Read this:

Batman begun in 1939 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman)
Phantom begun in 1936 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_(comics))
Spider-Man begun in 1962 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider_Man)
Superman begun in 1938 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman)

All of which have been able to maintain a consistent amount of popularity, with the occasional boom.

Ninja Turtles started off as a hot indy comic, became a phenomenon of a franchise for a few years, fizzled out when Power Rangers hit the scene, became obscure, then made a comeback although no where close to as popular as its prime.

I think the Ninja Turtles could last, but it's going to take some work. As a comic series, it could have some staying power if they tried to make it appeal to a wider audience. If Mirage is unable to do it on their own, maybe they should partner up with some companies when it comes to printing/distribution of trade paperbacks, things like that.

I'm not a fan of remakes, but maybe the movie series would need a complete reboot. If it meant giving the franchise a shot in the arm, I wouldn't mind a reboot.

[KROW]

I'd rather not go too analytical on the subject. Physically, TMNT as we know it may burn out again, but I think the franchise will last another 20 years as long as it dwells in the hearts minds of its fans. We really don't need another cartoon show, a new movie, or even a fresh comic book to get that sense of longevity. All we need is to remember and hold on to what we have of it.

And if we really feel a sense of drought in the well of the franchise, there's nothing preventing us from picking up a pen, pencil, and paper, or whipping out a keyboard and mouse and rejuvenating the world we've come to know and love throughout our years. Sure, it won't be licensed, but it'll exist, and with the help of places like this, it can be shared with others to eliminate the need for worrisome words like, "canon."

Keep the memory alive, and you keep hope alive.

[Spitfire]

Last strong no, will it come back eventually? Yeah it will. In time movie studios or networks will be tossing ideas around and some kid who grew up watching turtles will say "Hey remember the Ninja Turtles? I loved that as a kid let's bring that back."