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Old 02-27-2009, 12:58 AM   #1
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Watchmen Director loves Turtles

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ZS: The only title I really collected to this day is the original TMNT (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles).

NRAMA: The Eastman and Laird black and white series from Mirage?

ZS: Exactly. All that stuff, what’s the guy's name they always fought?

NRAMA: Shredder.

ZS: Right, I loved him! As I’ve told the story, I was a Heavy Metal fan (magazine, not music style). My mom got me a subscription to Heavy Metal when I was really young, not really knowing it was adult oriented, so I would read it and not let her know what was in it.

I’m sure if she saw some of the stuff that was in it, she would have been freaked out and appalled. She would just see the covers and say, “Oh Zach loves this stuff, this is perfect.” So it was hard for me to go to normal comics because I was a little bit broken and spoiled—when are they going to start &#@!ing or killing each other! So that kind took me out of comics for a little while.

It’s weird, TMNT was the one that kinda hooked me, you know? I guess at the time in high school, I was into renaissance artists and all that. And then a few years later, Dark Knight and Watchmen were really when I got back into comics — not heavily, but they were the ones that got me to believe again if you will. I think that’s a common story. But it’s mine as well.

NRAMA: How old were you when you were reading Heavy Metal and the Turtles?

ZS: I was in high school, so I guess Heavy Metal from about 14, maybe even before that, 13 to the present. Turtles were 17-18.

I’ve dabbled ever since with everything a little, all the Frank (Miller) stuff, all the Alan Moore stuff. Mostly you know, it’s an art thing. I do like art, so that’s why Heavy Metal was so influencing. I’m more like an art fan more than anything else.
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Old 02-27-2009, 01:21 AM   #2
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Poser fan of the year... Shredder was in how many issues?
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Old 02-27-2009, 01:31 AM   #3
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Poser fan of the year... Shredder was in how many issues?
The fact that he couldn't even remember his name is even worse...
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Old 02-27-2009, 01:34 AM   #4
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Erm...he was listing it as a good memory. that's the only point i was making.

Poser fan of the year? Your kidding, right? Lets face it, it is not like turtles is something someone would use to earn points in geek circles these days.


Not suggesting he should be involved in a film (I hate over used slow motion) or that he'd want to. just that it was interesting.
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Old 02-27-2009, 01:34 AM   #5
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Who the hell cares if he can't remember Shredder's name or the fact that he was only in four issues?

Someone get this guy a copy of City at War and a film crew.
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:38 AM   #6
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Who the hell cares if he can't remember Shredder's name or the fact that he was only in four issues?

Someone get this guy a copy of City at War and a film crew.
Are you kidding me? This guys a horrible director. 300 was a disaster and if Watchmen is good I'll be surprised.
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:59 AM   #7
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Watchmen looks like a porno and 300 is more a meme than a movie.
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Old 02-27-2009, 03:07 AM   #8
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Erm...he was listing it as a good memory. that's the only point i was making.
Good point to make that people in high places appreciate TMNT, even if it's just enough that they can't remember but the most mundane of its trivia. I really wasn't complaining at you. At least you gave us something to discuss.
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Old 02-27-2009, 03:34 AM   #9
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Of course. Zack Snyder loves TMNT and, if the right connections were made, he could make the kind of movie we're all wanting to see. Sure, its a pipe dream but there's hope...

...and almost half the responses are like, "F@#& him. He doesn't remember some stuff from when he was in High School that he hasn't kept up with since. He's a horrible person."

Oh, and I like 300 and Watchmen looks freakin' awesome.
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Old 02-27-2009, 03:36 AM   #10
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Of course. Zack Snyder loves TMNT and, if the right connections were made, he could make the kind of movie we're all wanting to see. Sure, its a pipe dream but there's hope...

...and almost half the responses are like, "F@#& him. He doesn't remember some stuff from when he was in High School that he hasn't kept up with since. He's a horrible person."

Oh, and I like 300 and Watchmen looks freakin' awesome.
Isn't that how it always is around here?
I honestly don't care if he remembers it doesnt take that much for a director to be handed the comics study them and make a film.
But I will agree with spitfire that 300 was a horrible film.
Watchmen does look like it could be decent though.
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Old 02-27-2009, 06:00 AM   #11
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I actually really liked his Dawn of the Dead. I haven't seen or read 300 and don't plan on doing so until I've read it, but I am really looking forward to Watchmen.
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Old 02-27-2009, 06:55 AM   #12
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Watchmen´s Director a Turtle fan!

Check it up on this Nessarama interview:

http://www.newsarama.com/film/090226...-watchmen.html

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Old 02-27-2009, 08:32 AM   #13
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Well... here's how I look at this whole thing. If... and this is a giant hypothetical... he were to direct the next TMNT movie, he's a big enough director now that he'd have pull enough to make the film a comic book movie and not some kid and overprotective parent friendly extension of 2k3 like the last one turned out to be. Again, hypothetically.

Now, I don't see him directing a TMNT film at all. And how many other directors are true fans? Maybe Kevin Smith... and if he handled it right, it could be good... hypothetically. But no matter what happens, if a 5th movie ever ever gets made, it will be treated the same way as the last ones... a connection to a kid's show, and not a comic book. It will get no respect around Hollywood, since... again, it'll be "Oh yeah! It's some live action cartoon remake like the Flintstones, right?" And not a comic book movie.

And one more time for the folks at home playing a drinking game... Hypothetically.
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At least he says he was a fan of the comics and no the cartoon. So if we get him to direct a movie, it'll at least be on the lines the first movie and hopefully nothing like SotO.
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Old 02-27-2009, 10:25 AM   #15
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Synder is pretty mediocre. If there were to be another TMNT movie the last thing I would want to see would the type of movie Synder would make. I can't really stomach Slow-Motion wire fighting anymore, it just bores me to tears and it seems to be how he approaches his action scenes. It worked for 300 but his Queen subplot destoyed the point of that movie.

Watchmen is the greatest graphic novel of all time and its getting "Its alright" from the reviews. Not how it should be.
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Are you kidding me? This guys a horrible director. 300 was a disaster and if Watchmen is good I'll be surprised.
It doesn't matter. He's high profile and has been involved with reasonably accurate comic-to-screen translations.

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Watchmen is the greatest graphic novel of all time and its getting "Its alright" from the reviews. Not how it should be.
Really? What reviews are you reading? Cause I've read nothing but good things from the critics.

And I thought the Queen subplot worked in 300. Otherwise it would have been a bunch of half naked men trying to kill each other.
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Really? What reviews are you reading? Cause I've read nothing but good things from the critics.
There was one scathing review but none of the ones I have read have been "WOW THIS MOVIE IS GREAT!" aside from places I generally don't trust like AICN. I'm willing to bet it'll be more along the lines of Wanted then say Spidey 1/2 and X-Men 2.
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There was one scathing review but none of the ones I have read have been "WOW THIS MOVIE IS GREAT!" aside from places I generally don't trust like AICN. I'm willing to bet it'll be more along the lines of Wanted then say Spidey 1/2 and X-Men 2.

If anything I think this movie will be more like Sin City than Wanted or Spiderman/ X-Men.
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If anything I think this movie will be more like Sin City than Wanted or Spiderman/ X-Men.
Well, I was speaking in terms of quality, not style. It will probably be like Sin City in terms of style, but so was The Spirit and that didn't work out so well. Zach Synder isn't, in my opinion, anywhere near as good a director as Robert Rodriguez and unlike Rodriguez he isn't working WITH the writer of the original comic, so I think the work will suffer for it. And with something like Watchmen that is so deep and has so much going on and is a really epic story but also a metatextual examination of Superhero comics in general, even losing the tiniest bit, like the Black Freighter tales, etc.

I'm absolutely not planning to see Watchmen in theaters, I might rent the big blu-ray release that will have the Black Freighter bits cut back into the movie.
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