Let's talk vintage!!! - Page 13

Blade Raider · 02-04-2009, 11:28 AM

Ya know, I once saw a (I believe resealed) Baxter Stockman/Fly Guy with a dead fly in the box...

It's nasty, but kind of funny

DMC362 · 02-04-2009, 11:38 AM

The post is a refence to a scam artist from ebay that used to ship dirty clothes, human feces, trash and other misc things instead of promised items that bidder won.

He was finally caught and arrested.

I forgot about the story until Robhp03 post reminded me of it.

*Ninjinister* · 02-08-2009, 11:57 PM

Finally got my mitts on a Mutatin' Bebop (I'm actually looking for a second one so I can repaint the human form to be correct). When it came in the mail, his sweatshirt, which appears white in every photo I've seen, has a slight maroon-ish tint. Is this normal?

Nelson · 02-18-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ninjinister

Finally got my mitts on a Mutatin' Bebop (I'm actually looking for a second one so I can repaint the human form to be correct). When it came in the mail, his sweatshirt, which appears white in every photo I've seen, has a slight maroon-ish tint. Is this normal?

It's light purple.

*Wes* · 02-18-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ninjinister

Finally got my mitts on a Mutatin' Bebop (I'm actually looking for a second one so I can repaint the human form to be correct).

Hey, I should do that with my extra!

By the way, did Playmates ever give a reason for the skin color adjustment? I'd be amused if it was to avoid attracting controversy and allegations of racism.

*Ninjinister* · 02-18-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Wes

Hey, I should do that with my extra!

By the way, did Playmates ever give a reason for the skin color adjustment? I'd be amused if it was to avoid attracting controversy and allegations of racism.

Well, it's not only that, but he's got orange hair in his human form, and purple in his mutation! What's up with that?

Tuxedo Moroboshi · 02-18-2009, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Wes

Hey, I should do that with my extra!

By the way, did Playmates ever give a reason for the skin color adjustment? I'd be amused if it was to avoid attracting controversy and allegations of racism.

I always wondered about that, myself. Even as a child, I remember asking myself, "Why is his skin color different?"

Maybe they wanted an excuse to change his hands, too? Since otherwise, I think his hands would look the same mutated or not (unless they decided to use a different shade of brown for his human form).

But, I think just contrast might have been the reason. Which might also explain the orange hair. Whatever, it's not like Playmates is notorious for inaccuracies or anything.

Nelson · 02-19-2009, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Blade Raider

Ya know, I once saw a (I believe resealed) Baxter Stockman/Fly Guy with a dead fly in the box...

It's nasty, but kind of funny

Lately I've gotten two MOC figures with insects in them. Those old figures has the bottom part of the bubble unglued, I think that's why those little monsters could enter (and DIEEEE).

About Bebop's skin color, I've always had in my mind that the toymakers were afraid that if the figure's hands didn't during the transformation, it would appear that they would be saying that a black man's hand is the same as a boar's.

*Ninjinister* · 02-19-2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Nelson

About Bebop's skin color, I've always had in my mind that the toymakers were afraid that if the figure's hands didn't during the transformation, it would appear that they would be saying that a black man's hand is the same as a boar's.

Well, for one thing, they could have used different skin tones. Bebop's flesh colour in his original figure is lighter than his Mutatin' version in warthog mode. They could have used a darker brown-ish for human, and the lighter one, ala his first figure, for the mutation. Second of all, post-mutation Bebop has three fingers and a thumb. And - this is something that I noticed last night that is bizarre - his brass knuckles change hands during mutation. It's the same thing with Mutatin' Rocksteady's hand wrap.

Oh, and I forgot to mention prior, that his shades change from blue (human) to purple (mutant).

***First of Two Latin Kings*** · 02-19-2009, 11:47 AM

Mutatin' Splinter's fist and relaxed hand also alternate when he mutates:

http://www.figurerealm.com/actionfig...utatinsplinter

*Ninjinister* · 02-19-2009, 11:50 AM

While that's true, that's as simple as releasing and clenching muscles. It's not an object moving from one hand to the other.

***First of Two Latin Kings*** · 02-19-2009, 11:54 AM

He's also got a throwing star up his sleeve, can't remember if it is in rat form or human form though.

Edit: I believe it is on the fisted hand.

Tuxedo Moroboshi · 02-20-2009, 12:46 AM

The switching of items (like blue sunglasses changing to purple or brass knuckles and hand wrappings switching hands) during mutation only further supports my theory that Playmates simply wanted there to be a large contrast between the human forms and the mutated forms. So both color and appearance would change to make the mutation that much more, pardon the pun, radical.

But, if we use the natural laws of nature found within the universe of the old toon, this sort of thing is definitely possible. Even though the mutations from the old toon claim to be scientific, it's quite obvious that they're actually magical. Take the episode "The Gang's All Here", for example. In that episode, Michelangelo eats cookies that Shredder made that cause him to turn human (as well as lose his "turtle powers"... which I never understood, because I always assumed they got their skills from Ninjutsu and not from being turtles). Now, to make sure he doesn't end up naked, he put on a Hawaiian shirt and some shorts. That seems logical, but... then there's things that make no sense at all.

See, here's the thing. The mutation is unstable, so Mikey keeps going back and forth between turtle and human. The problem is that he's barefoot as a turtle, but magically gains shoes as a human. Even more confusing is that as a human, he doesn't have his orange mask, wristbands, elbow pads, and knee pads. They magically disappear... but then magically reappear when he mutates back into a turtle.

Therefor, the explanation for the illogical mutations of these old figures is simple. The old toon mutations were actually magical transformations disguised as scientific transformations.

SideshowJoe · 02-20-2009, 10:24 PM

I'm super stoked, because I finally acquired 1 of 2 of my personal vintage TMNT collecting holy grails the other day! That item, of course, was a sealed container of Retromutagen Ooze! I've been looking for one forever, and I finally managed to get one, so I'm stoked about it. Now if I could track down a can of Foot Ooze (the purple one) I'd be all set, because that's grail #2 for me

Tuxedo Moroboshi · 02-23-2009, 08:34 PM

Okay, I have a question regarding something from the 1988 line. Specifically, about Raphael.

Now, I never really remembered it being like this when I was little, but then again, there's lot of things I don't remember from when I was little. So, I'd like to hear from other people about this. Was there ever a Raphael that had a belt that fit just right?

A few years ago, I bought a Raphael from eBay and his belt is kind of loose. I had assumed maybe it was just that one figure... but now that I see the rerelease of the original 1988 line in stores, I've seen Raphaels on the pegs that also have loose belts. Even on pictures on the internet, again, loose belts for Raphael. So, did the original Raphael ALWAYS have a loose belt?

For those that don't quite know what I'm talking about, look at this picture:

As you can see, the belt hangs off of him a bit. It's not tight and snug like it is for Leonardo, Michelangelo, or Donatello. Has it always been like this? Does anybody have a Raphael that doesn't have a loose belt? This is just something I've been wondering about for a while now.

*VaughnMichael* · 02-24-2009, 06:20 AM

That belt could belong to one of the variants that came out in the 90's like the head droppers.

Blade Raider · 02-24-2009, 11:05 AM

The head droppers were awesome! I use them more than the originals. I just wish Leo had a better head.

andrewdsz · 03-08-2009, 10:01 PM

Question,does the channel 6 van green april comes with any weapon accessories with her ?And how much does that april worth to u guys?

Archon_Turtle · 03-09-2009, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by andrewdsz

Question,does the channel 6 van green april comes with any weapon accessories with her ?And how much does that april worth to u guys?

just the april without the van? Not a lot.
and no, i do not believe she came with accessories.

tipet · 04-28-2009, 06:01 PM

Hello!
I'm from Spain and I'm interested in the 4 original turtles. Here is very difficult to find them, but i want to pay the correct price.
Which is the maximum price I should pay for each turtle in ebay?
Thank you!

02-04-2009, 11:28 AM	#241
Blade Raider Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,221	Ya know, I once saw a (I believe resealed) Baxter Stockman/Fly Guy with a dead fly in the box... It's nasty, but kind of funny __________________

02-08-2009, 11:57 PM	#243
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	Finally got my mitts on a Mutatin' Bebop (I'm actually looking for a second one so I can repaint the human form to be correct). When it came in the mail, his sweatshirt, which appears white in every photo I've seen, has a slight maroon-ish tint. Is this normal? __________________

02-19-2009, 11:50 AM	#251
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	While that's true, that's as simple as releasing and clenching muscles. It's not an object moving from one hand to the other. __________________

02-20-2009, 12:46 AM	#253
Tuxedo Moroboshi Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Battle Nexus Posts: 1,127	The switching of items (like blue sunglasses changing to purple or brass knuckles and hand wrappings switching hands) during mutation only further supports my theory that Playmates simply wanted there to be a large contrast between the human forms and the mutated forms. So both color and appearance would change to make the mutation that much more, pardon the pun, radical. But, if we use the natural laws of nature found within the universe of the old toon, this sort of thing is definitely possible. Even though the mutations from the old toon claim to be scientific, it's quite obvious that they're actually magical. Take the episode "The Gang's All Here", for example. In that episode, Michelangelo eats cookies that Shredder made that cause him to turn human (as well as lose his "turtle powers"... which I never understood, because I always assumed they got their skills from Ninjutsu and not from being turtles). Now, to make sure he doesn't end up naked, he put on a Hawaiian shirt and some shorts. That seems logical, but... then there's things that make no sense at all. See, here's the thing. The mutation is unstable, so Mikey keeps going back and forth between turtle and human. The problem is that he's barefoot as a turtle, but magically gains shoes as a human. Even more confusing is that as a human, he doesn't have his orange mask, wristbands, elbow pads, and knee pads. They magically disappear... but then magically reappear when he mutates back into a turtle. Therefor, the explanation for the illogical mutations of these old figures is simple. The old toon mutations were actually magical transformations disguised as scientific transformations. __________________ Hey, be sure to check out my art!

02-23-2009, 08:34 PM	#255
Tuxedo Moroboshi Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Battle Nexus Posts: 1,127	Okay, I have a question regarding something from the 1988 line. Specifically, about Raphael. Now, I never really remembered it being like this when I was little, but then again, there's lot of things I don't remember from when I was little. So, I'd like to hear from other people about this. Was there ever a Raphael that had a belt that fit just right? A few years ago, I bought a Raphael from eBay and his belt is kind of loose. I had assumed maybe it was just that one figure... but now that I see the rerelease of the original 1988 line in stores, I've seen Raphaels on the pegs that also have loose belts. Even on pictures on the internet, again, loose belts for Raphael. So, did the original Raphael ALWAYS have a loose belt? For those that don't quite know what I'm talking about, look at this picture: As you can see, the belt hangs off of him a bit. It's not tight and snug like it is for Leonardo, Michelangelo, or Donatello. Has it always been like this? Does anybody have a Raphael that doesn't have a loose belt? This is just something I've been wondering about for a while now. __________________ Hey, be sure to check out my art!

02-04-2009, 11:38 AM	#242
DMC362 Foot Soldier Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Augusta, Ga Posts: 121	The post is a refence to a scam artist from ebay that used to ship dirty clothes, human feces, trash and other misc things instead of promised items that bidder won. He was finally caught and arrested. I forgot about the story until Robhp03 post reminded me of it.

02-20-2009, 10:24 PM	#254
SideshowJoe Mouser Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 6	I'm super stoked, because I finally acquired 1 of 2 of my personal vintage TMNT collecting holy grails the other day! That item, of course, was a sealed container of Retromutagen Ooze! I've been looking for one forever, and I finally managed to get one, so I'm stoked about it. Now if I could track down a can of Foot Ooze (the purple one) I'd be all set, because that's grail #2 for me

02-24-2009, 06:20 AM	#256
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	That belt could belong to one of the variants that came out in the 90's like the head droppers.

02-24-2009, 11:05 AM	#257
Blade Raider Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,221	The head droppers were awesome! I use them more than the originals. I just wish Leo had a better head. __________________

03-08-2009, 10:01 PM	#258
andrewdsz Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 952	Question,does the channel 6 van green april comes with any weapon accessories with her ?And how much does that april worth to u guys? Last edited by andrewdsz; 03-08-2009 at 10:06 PM.

04-28-2009, 06:01 PM	#260
tipet Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 364	Hello! I'm from Spain and I'm interested in the 4 original turtles. Here is very difficult to find them, but i want to pay the correct price. Which is the maximum price I should pay for each turtle in ebay? Thank you!