Can anyone help editing the tmnt articles on Wikipedia here?

[andrewdsz]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage...t_Ninja_Turtle

Lots of the informations are outdated and missing, I read through everything and found out that The fast forward series animation are hardly mentioned.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by andrewdsz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage...t_Ninja_Turtle

Lots of the informations are outdated and missing, I read through everything and found out that The fast forward series animation are hardly mentioned.

Everybody can edit Wikipedia.

[ToTheNines]

I bet his IP adress is banned from editing, that's why he's asking.

[gobo]

I'm too busy to learn Wikipedianese, but what do you expect anyone to put up there?

[Buslady]

I used to edit the stupid thing until someone got in there and reedited my material...screw it. waste of time

[Cipher]

The whole thing needs to be reformatted/rewritten from square one. It's a sloppy, awful mess.

I don't have nearly enough time to rewrite the page myself though.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

There's also a TMNT-pedia.

[TristanHuwJones]

Both the TMNTpedia and the Wiki info need some serious attention. Both are a mess and really deserve better.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I created some of the articles back in 2005, as an anonymous user.

[Guitar_Raph]

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Originally Posted by J 1982

There's also a TMNT-pedia.

Here's the link...

www.tmnt.wikia.com

[Cipher]

I've resolved to, very slowly (very, very, slowly) edit the TMNTpedia in my spare moments. I'll report back with progress.

Two things that need to be done when editing it:

1. Clearly seperate and address all fictional universes. The "Origing of the TMNT" page on the TMNTpedia has one section with a paragraph about the origin, and then one more paragraph about the 1987 cartoon version. What the hell? IT NEEDS ONE CLEARLY MARKED SECTION FOR EVERY VERSION.

2. This should be so basic, it's astounding. If you cite a specific incident in the fiction, add a link to the correpsonding issue or episode after the sentence. Even if that page doesn't exist yet, ideally it will some day.

For a clear example of what to do when citing a fictional event, check the Transformers Wiki. It's absolutely the most coherent fan database I have ever seen.

3. Please, oh please, dear God, use good writing.

---EDIT

Alright, so I made my first contribution, adding a summary to the "Origin" article.

The "origin of the TMNT" refers to a series of events present in most TMNT fictional universes, which ultimately culminate in the mutations of Splinter and the Ninja Turtles. Most versions are similar to outline of Splinter's tale in the first issue of the Mirage comics. Hamato Yoshi is slain by Oroku Saki and Splinter takes refuge in the sewers, where he discovers four baby turtles have been dropped by a young boy. One day Splinter returns to find the turtles crawling in a strange ooze, and their mutations into humanoid creatures begins.

Though most versions of the origin include these similar elements, many differences are present. Some delve deeper into the past, some have added minute details, and some have even altered the origins of the ooze or the identities of the characters. The most well known versions are those presented in the 1990 film and the 1987 cartoon series, although they are wholly irreconcilable with one another.

Not too bad, I hope. My next step will be to fix up the rest of the origin page, and then make a new page for "Fictional universes," defining the term and carefully laying out each TMNT continuity (which the wiki desperately needs).

Things to work on: The lists of comics and episodes need clear, consistant formats. That's a long term goal. Also, there needs to be some disambiguation between "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - The Characters" and "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - The Franchise," because I believe it's all one page now.

I'm signed on to the TMNTwiki as Oroku Saki, by the way.

---EDIT 2

Alright, why does the Mirage version of Leonardo have absolutely no information? And why is Complete Carnage summarily described as "a demon-type guy who can take any form"? That's bloody terrible. There is so much work to be done.

[doomiscool]

Originally Posted by Cipher

And why is Complete Carnage summarily described as "a demon-type guy who can take any form"? That's bloody terrible. There is so much work to be done.

BWAHAHAHAHA! That sounds like something I said to my sister once: "A sea monster thing that is all prehistoricy"

Okay, after seeing that I know that thing needs help, so if I have any spare time, I will devote it to saving them.

[Cipher]

I'm getting pretty into cleaning this thing up. Everyone should check my continued efforts on the origin page to keep me in line.

Other suggestions for the site -

When citing any fictional event, attach a "storyline" link to the end of the sentence. Like so: {{storyline|page title of relevant issue or episode|link title}}. Keep this consistent. Refer to episodes and issues by title if possible. For untitled issues, please refer to them as "Vol. ___ # ___."

For pictures, please include details of the source on the actual picture's page (where it takes you when you click on it.) If it's from the 2007 movie, say "Leonardo and Raphael fight in a scene from the 2007 film", complete with links.

Let's get a consistent format for issue and episode pages as well. I've asked Archon Turtle to ask Dan Berger if it's cool to use some of the summaries from the Mirage site for now, so we'll see.

Certain characters may need disambiguation pages to seperate different versions.

Lastly, I really do plan to do an article on the different universes at some point in the near future. Can we all agree that these are the major continuities?

1. Mirage (Vol 1, Vol 2, Vol 4, Tales Vol 1, Vol 2)
2. Image (Vol 1, Vol 2, Vol 3, Tales Vol 1)
3. 1987 Cartoon
4. Next Mutation
5. 2003 Cartoon/Fast Foward/Back to the Sewers
6. Film (the 2007 movie being a lose sequel to the old trilogy)
7. TMNT Adventures
8. Palladium Source Books
9. Micro-continuities including video games, toyline bios, CooTS, and the Christmas special

Eh?

[Andrew NDB]

I would like to see a clear division of the cartoon and spinoff stuff and the comic material... it's so intermixed and misleading it's painful.

[Cipher]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I would like to see a clear division of the cartoon and spinoff stuff and the comic material... it's so intermixed and misleading it's painful.

Agreed. Working on it.

[CyberCubed]

Keep in mind the 5 movie prequel comics take place in the Movie universe (of course), and they should be listed with the movies.

[Cipher]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Keep in mind the 5 movie prequel comics take place in the Movie universe (of course), and they should be listed with the movies.

Yeah. I'd add in all auxiliary material (although I haven't actually read the movie prequels, so someone else would have to fill in details).

I'll probably list the Dreamwave series with the 2003 universe too. They never really had time to differentiate.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Cipher

I'll probably list the Dreamwave series with the 2003 universe too. They never really had time to differentiate.

Pretty much true, it only had 2 new stories and they could pass as episodes of the cartoon easily. You just gotta assume April's part-time employee for the 2nd time around shop wasn't re-hired when she got her shop rebuilt in Season 2.

[TristanHuwJones]

You need any help with character profiles or anything like that, holler.

[Cipher]

Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones

You need any help with character profiles or anything like that, holler.

If you want to knock those out, go right ahead. (Sweet Jesus, Complete Carnage's page needs fixing.) Just be sure to add storylinks and keep universes clearly divided.

I'm done with the origin page except for the 2003 cartoon section and some pictures. But I've got a lot on my plate academically, socially, and with the school paper in the next week or two, so I'll be chipping away at a snail's pace.