Sony Gets The Shaft

[Ninjinister]

Important note before we roll into discussion: this is not a console war topic. Any flaming will probably get hacked out of the thread and sent to The Disintegrator Unit.

All righty... it seems that Sony's systems have gotten the relative shaft when it comes to TMNT games, at least in comparison to its contemporaries. Check out the history...

"Fifth-Generation"

• Ninja Turtles: Next Mutation is announced for Playstation, in development by Playmates Interactive Entertainment. The game is canceled before any solid details can be released, and quietly slips away from everybody's mind.

"Sixth-Generation"

• All three major consoles are home to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: Battle Nexus, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3: Mutant Nightmare. However, TMNT: Mutant Melee is released for PS2 in Europe only, thus is missing in the franchise's country of origin.

"Seventh-Generation"

• Due to its financial success, 2007's TMNT becomes slated for port to the PlayStation 3. The port is never released.
• The original TMNT arcade is released for Xbox Live Arcade (XBLA), the original NES game for Wii Virtual Console, and a remake of Turtles in Time is slated for XBLA and possibly WiiWare. No PlayStation Network installments of TMNT have been confirmed as of this writing.

Current Handhelds

• At this time, Nintendo DS has two games (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3: Mutant Nightmare and TMNT), whereas PSP only has TMNT.

Now this track record isn't terrible - I mean, it could be a lot worse - I think the worst thing is that while 360 and possibly Wii are gearing up for their second downloadable TMNT release, it's still all quiet on the PSN front. That seems just a wee bit strange, to me.

Just something interesting that came to mind.

[TheCanadiandrome]

it's all about who nabs it first. Sony must have been asleep at the switch. but maybe it also comes down to how well the games do, maybe Sony doesn't want any TMNT if it's going to suck

[Tuxedo Moroboshi]

I'm not so sure that the 5th and 6th generations really count. Next Mutation was probably canceled because... well, it's the Next Mutation! And Mutant Melee, although being released in another country, was still released for PS2, so that's more that America is getting the shaft than Sony.

Everything you said about the 7th generation seems to be pretty spot-on, though.

[Peanut]

Honestly, I think it's all just a matter of timing in almost all of these cases. PS3 ports were getting canceled all over the place when the movie game came out, the XBLA release of the original Arcade game was released when the PSN was extremely new, and missed out on all of those XBLA releases entirely. The Wii getting on old game via VC doesn't really seem to count, as no work had to go into it in the first place.

The rest of the stuff is due entirely to either the franchise being almost dead in the case of the PS1 and for the handheld game, again, the PSP was pretty new at that point, and the release of a what is essentially a GBA game just wouldn't have happened in the first place.

Despite all of that, we still don't know for a fact that the PSN won't be getting the remake, we don't even know if WiiWare will. So I think we should probably hold off on speculation on that for awhile.

Edit: How did I mix up the words "before" and "when"?

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Honestly, I think it's all just a matter of timing in almost all of these cases. PS3 ports were getting canceled all over the place when the movie game came out, the XBLA release of the original Arcade game was released when the PSN was extremely new, and missed out on all of those XBLA releases entirely. The Wii getting on old game via VC doesn't really seem to count, as no work had to go into it in the first place.

The rest of the stuff is due entirely to either the franchise being almost dead in the case of the PS1 and for the handheld game, again, the PSP was pretty new at that point, and the release of a what is essentially a GBA game just wouldn't have happened in the first place.

Despite all of that, we still don't know for a fact that the PSN won't be getting the remake, we don't even know if WiiWare will. So I think we should probably hold off on speculation on that for awhile.

Edit: How did I mix up the words "before" and "when"?

Sleep deprivation?

Also: QFT.

Who could have seen that, but then again we all know Peanut knows his games.

[X]

It pays to own every console per generation for any exclusives.

Look at Europe and Ghostbusters.

Because of Sony, Ghostbusters is now a Sony exclusive for PS3, and PS2. Timed exclusive. The 360, Wii, DS versions will come out the same time as the announced PSP version, sometime late fall. This is Europe only, but still, it shows it can happen.

The NA releases are still a go for June 16th.

So there, PS3 can say it has something that other systems don't. Sure it's in Europe, but hey it's something exclusive to a territory nonetheless.

No games ever going exclusive will ever hurt this gamer. I simply buy whatever good game(s) come out on said system.

It pays to own all systems each generation if possible.

[Peanut]

That's an ignorant way of looking at things. Not everyone is lucky enough to be able to afford every single console every generation. Some people are lucky to own one.

[Jester]

And some game so infrequently, they own none. I'm a "retro gamer" if anything, and only because that's what I have on hand. I'm more into movies now, anyway. I tended to play a lot of multi-player games growing up, and now it'd be just me, so...

[syk_skillz]

I'm lucky to have all 3 systems due to my youger brother being so spoiled so it doesn't bother me a bit.

[X]

Yeah, Jester, I have a friend who digs old school more then the current stuff.

He is trying right now to complete the NES library, and has a ton of Atari, SNES, Genesis, and Master System games.

My NES, SNES, GEN, libraries won't be as big as current gen ones, due in part to the fact I am a gamer who only buys what I know I like. He buys games like Swamp Thing on NES just for the sake of saying he has it, and it further completes his NES collection.

I think the only games I could want on NES to complete my collection are Adventure Island 1 and 3 (have 2,) Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers 2, Super C, and Startropics 2. All of the other NES games I own, is all I care for, for that system.

However old school will always have its place with me. I frequently break out my NES to play me some Mike Tyson's Punch-Out! or the Lolo games.

[Lil G]

Originally Posted by The Ninjinister

Important note before we roll into discussion: this is not a console war topic. Any flaming will probably get hacked out of the thread and sent to The Disintegrator Unit.

All righty... it seems that Sony's systems have gotten the relative shaft when it comes to TMNT games, at least in comparison to its contemporaries. Check out the history...

"Fifth-Generation"

• Ninja Turtles: Next Mutation is announced for Playstation, in development by Playmates Interactive Entertainment. The game is canceled before any solid details can be released, and quietly slips away from everybody's mind.

"Sixth-Generation"

• All three major consoles are home to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: Battle Nexus, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3: Mutant Nightmare. However, TMNT: Mutant Melee is released for PS2 in Europe only, thus is missing in the franchise's country of origin.

"Seventh-Generation"

• Due to its financial success, 2007's TMNT becomes slated for port to the PlayStation 3. The port is never released.
• The original TMNT arcade is released for Xbox Live Arcade (XBLA), the original NES game for Wii Virtual Console, and a remake of Turtles in Time is slated for XBLA and possibly WiiWare. No PlayStation Network installments of TMNT have been confirmed as of this writing.

Current Handhelds

• At this time, Nintendo DS has two games (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3: Mutant Nightmare and TMNT), whereas PSP only has TMNT.

Now this track record isn't terrible - I mean, it could be a lot worse - I think the worst thing is that while 360 and possibly Wii are gearing up for their second downloadable TMNT release, it's still all quiet on the PSN front. That seems just a wee bit strange, to me.

Just something interesting that came to mind.

Another thing, it seemed like they took hardly any time at all on TMNT for PSP, with bad reviews and everything to back my point. While the TMNT for GBA got great reviews.

[Mecha Cow]

Another thing, it seemed like they took hardly any time at all on TMNT for PSP, with bad reviews and everything to back my point. While the TMNT for GBA got great reviews.

Are you serious? They were completely different games.

[Lil G]

Originally Posted by Mecha Cow

Are you serious? They were completely different games.

Im talking about the the 2007 tmnt games.

[Mecha Cow]

I know, and the PSP and GBA versions are completely different games, done by different development teams. The PSP version is just a port of the (average) console versions, whereas the GBA version is a (great) new game altogether. They're different games, hence the different scores. It has nothing to do with a media bias if that's what you're suggesting.

[1984]

I just saw this morning that TMNT is available to download from the PS3 store for $19.99. If this is old news feel free to delete I just have not heard anything.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by 1984

I just saw this morning that TMNT is available to download from the PS3 store for $19.99. If this is old news feel free to delete I just have not heard anything.

Which game is that? The movie game?

And this thread in and of itself is pretty antiquated now that we know that Turtles in Time will be on PSN later this year and Smash-Up is going to be on PS2.

[Kendamu]

Originally Posted by The Ninjinister

Which game is that? The movie game?

And this thread in and of itself is pretty antiquated now that we know that Turtles in Time will be on PSN later this year and Smash-Up is going to be on PS2.

It's the PSP version.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

It's the PSP version.

is it playable on the PS3 as well, or is it just one of those "look, now you don't need the UMD" affairs?