Will there be a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Collection?

[Tuxedo Moroboshi]

Originally Posted by TMNT_25

NES/SNES/Genesis games would be good

Indeed they would... with the two arcade games thrown in for good measure. But I doubt it'll happen. For that matter, what's with this topic? It kinda makes it sound like such a thing is actually being made, but to my recollection, it isn't. Did I miss something?

[darthsmozers]

Originally Posted by Clown Prince of Crime

Indeed they would... with the two arcade games thrown in for good measure. But I doubt it'll happen. For that matter, what's with this topic? It kinda makes it sound like such a thing is actually being made, but to my recollection, it isn't. Did I miss something?

probably just the OP's way of wording it, thats all.

[gobo]

Yeah, if you missed something, we all must have... which we didn't.

[Peanut]

It'll come out when there's more than 100 people who still like Ninja Turtles and actually give a sh*t about owning all the games.

[DonatelloDomeHead31]

Originally Posted by Clown Prince of Crime

Indeed they would... with the two arcade games thrown in for good measure.

Be aware, the arcade version and ninja turtles II for the nes were the same with the addition of a level or 2. Also, for the turtles in time arcade and snes version, same thing with a few levels added.

the only way that would work is if they were combined in a way.

[Samhain]

DUDE!!! i wouldnt have said it if i knew everyone was gonna repeat it. lol.

[Tuxedo Moroboshi]

Originally Posted by Peanut

It'll come out when there's more than 100 people who still like Ninja Turtles and actually give a sh*t about owning all the games.

I think such a game collection would likely still sell pretty well. People remember those games quite fondly. The first TMNT game for the NES sold quite excellently on Virtual Console (despite the fact that it's one of the more hated TMNT games among many people), and while Smash-Up hasn't gotten that much buzz outside of TMNT fandom, the Turtles in Time remake is getting EVERYBODY'S attention.

Originally Posted by donatello22

Be aware, the arcade version and ninja turtles II for the nes were the same with the addition of a level or 2. Also, for the turtles in time arcade and snes version, same thing with a few levels added.

the only way that would work is if they were combined in a way.

I disagree. The NES version of the first arcade game had more levels, but the graphics and sound were obviously not the same as the arcade version, plus the 4-player element was left out. Same thing with Turtles in Time. As for Turtles in Time, specifically, don't forget there's bosses that only appear in each version, not to mention that Neon Nightriders is totally different. So you see, there's plenty of differences between them to warrant both of them being included in a collection.

[Doc_ock_4mugen]

How about a TMNT collection with the TMNT 3: Manhattan Project using Arcade Graphics as Special edition Bonus. In addition to that, the other Arcade Games, Hyperstone Heist, and TMNT (The evil NES platformer TMNT game.) If they remake it with better 2-d graphics it would be awesome.

[Tuxedo Moroboshi]

Originally Posted by Doc_ock_4mugen

How about a TMNT collection with the TMNT 3: Manhattan Project using Arcade Graphics as Special edition Bonus. In addition to that, the other Arcade Games, Hyperstone Heist, and TMNT (The evil NES platformer TMNT game.) If they remake it with better 2-d graphics it would be awesome.

You know, since you're bringing up the notion of an updated Manhattan Project, I can't help but wonder if that might be a possible sequel if the Turtles in Time remake does well enough. Hmmm...

[darthsmozers]

Originally Posted by Clown Prince of Crime

You know, since you're bringing up the notion of an updated Manhattan Project, I can't help but wonder if that might be a possible sequel if the Turtles in Time remake does well enough. Hmmm...

now that is a great idea!

[DonatelloDomeHead31]

an updated Manhattan Project would be cool because then the first level (which is the beach) would be awesome as far as graphics go. I would definitely support that.

[Doc_ock_4mugen]

Manhattan Project doesn't get much respect. An updated (2-d or 3-d) would look great for a great game.

[Patraw]

A TMNT game compilation title would be cool, but I don't think it'd happen due to Konami having to emulate multiple engines/systems (NES, SNES, Genesis, Arcade, and even Gameboy) to accomplish it.

The most realistic scenario, in my opinion, would be just the arcade versions of TMNT the Arcade Game and TMNT: Turtles in Time on one disc, as the arcade engine(s) was developed by Konami, so they presumably own the corresponding hardware rights, and wouldn't have to finangle with Nintendo or Sega for their NES/Genesis/SNES/Gameboy engine rights or risk litigation with doing their own emulation of Nintendo/Sega systems.

And, lastly, Konami would almost certainly have to work out a new licensing agreement from Laird & Co. to re-release them, which might not float if Ubisoft has anything to say about it.

Bottom-line: It'd be cool if it could be done, but I think there's a fair amount of hurdles that Konami would have to jump through first.

[Doc_ock_4mugen]

Well the Megaman collection games had to emulate Snes, NES, and PS1 engines for their Megaman Collection games. But Megaman is a Capcom original and doesn't need to do the liscense stuff. That saved them some money.

[Tuxedo Moroboshi]

Originally Posted by Patraw

And, lastly, Konami would almost certainly have to work out a new licensing agreement from Laird & Co. to re-release them, which might not float if Ubisoft has anything to say about it.

Well, I've noticed Ubisoft has been involved in all of these recent releases of old Konami TMNT games, so I don't see that as being much of a hurdle, provided that Ubisoft is involved.

Originally Posted by Doc_ock_4mugen

Well the Megaman collection games had to emulate Snes, NES, and PS1 engines for their Megaman Collection games. But Megaman is a Capcom original and doesn't need to do the liscense stuff. That saved them some money.

Technically, they only emulated SNES and PSX. The NES games were just ports of the PSX releases of those games, rather than actual emulations (which is why all the NES games in that collection had adjustable difficulty levels, the option to change to remixed music, as well as a Navi mode).

Still, you make a good point, in that the emulation of those systems isn't necessarily a hurdle.

[Patraw]

I'm not saying it's hard to do the emulation; I'm saying Konami would have to be careful with how they went about it to avoid litigation. Nintendo/Sega own many patents pertaining to their home consoles, if anyone infringes on those patents, intentionally or otherwise, they could be in for a world of legal hurt. The best, and safest, thing to do, is to get Nintendo/Sega's permission/support for the project, even if that includes paying them a fee to do so. While it is possible to emulate a given game system without infringing on any patents, that also involves additional work/expenses for the developer in creating their own engine(s) to do so--that could very well be time/effort Konami isn't willing to expend.

The point I'm trying to make here is that Konami would almost certainly have to go through several parties to get such a compilation title released, each of which would want a piece of the profits, and may even be antagonistic towards the project, thereby decreasing Konami's own take, which might make it not worth the effort in time or finances. If you own an intellectual property, like Capcom does Mega Man, then yes, things are simpler, but you still have to deal with your games being on someone else's architecture if you don't own the hardware/engine the games initially appeared on.

Again, I think it's a good idea, but I don't know how feasible/economical it would be from Konami's perspective.

[Tuxedo Moroboshi]

Hmmm, when you put it that way, it does sound like it'd probably be more trouble than it's worth. Plus, there's the whole thing with the music and sound effects, as well (since in both the unlockable arcade games in the 2k3 games as well as the X-Box Live versions of the arcade games, it seems that the music was replaced).

[Doc_ock_4mugen]

Seeing that an "official" collection is unlikely to be made. How about fanmade TMNT games? Do they exsist?

[gobo]

The Chinese Amazon sells a CD with emulators and all emulated 20th century TMNT games.

[Doc_ock_4mugen]

but buying emulators and roms is illegal... I think... Slightly mopre illegal than over 90% of all the MUGEN, Beats of Rage, and the other fighting/sidescrolling beat-em up engines have to show...