Anti-TMNT books from Phil Phillips and Joan Hake Robie

**Jester** · 05-30-2009, 06:45 PM

http://gogreenmachine.wordpress.com/...-mind-control/

Enjoy kiddies.

Newton Gimmick · 05-30-2009, 06:59 PM

There's a huge amount of this kind of stuff out there. Usually passed off by religious zealots who are terrified that folks might find more valuable lessons in make believe comics and TV as opposed to hundred year old make believe books.

If you thought that was enjoyable, check out this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoVGMwcOjL4

Which predated TMNT, but is the same sort of hogwash. There's four parts to enjoy.

There's also some of those hilarious anti-D&D comics out there where they show kids learning black magic and casting spells... From a game.

**Jester** · 05-30-2009, 07:32 PM

Watched them, if they are what I think they are. They star (for lack of a better trem) the author of Saturday Morning Mind Control, Phil Phillips.

Lordmylar06 · 05-30-2009, 07:37 PM

Deluded overprotective Christian parenting at it's worst.

**Jester** · 05-30-2009, 08:06 PM

Glad my parents weren't this anal.

Lordmylar06 · 05-30-2009, 08:34 PM

You and me both Jester. I was raised by my grandparents, and they were good people. Not too religious, just good moral people. They never would have stopped me from reading the TMNT archie series, or watching the cartoon. They knew better than what this nutjob is saying. I think there's a special place in the Inferno for people who say this sort of thing.

*Kendamu* · 05-30-2009, 09:13 PM

I had a cousin who had gotten a bunch'a TMNT stuff for Christmas once, but wasn't allowed to take it home (we were at my Grandparents' house) because his parents thought the TMNT to be evil and all that junk.

My Mom was just the opposite. She bought me my first figure before I knew what they were!

**Machias Banshee** · 05-30-2009, 09:17 PM

Most people don't read into this kind of hysteria, thankfully. And I don't think they could really put it on 2k3 anyways, considering how much they emphasized on family and stuff...

My parents had no problem with me watching this show... unless there was a new episode of Martha Stewart showing at the same time on ABC...

*Buslady* · 05-30-2009, 09:19 PM

Thanks for the laughs, loved it!

*Cipher* · 05-31-2009, 01:16 AM

There's an absurd amount of this stuff out there for Pokemon as well.

Of course, once things like Turtles and Pokemon cease to be fads, the zealots instantly stop caring. Despite the fact that both continue to be largely (or in Pokemon's case, enormously) successful properties. Oh well.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 05-31-2009, 04:58 AM

Fanatic Christians always blame something new in popular culture for the devil:

In the 1920's, 30's and 40's, jazz was the devil's music.
In the 1950's and 60's, pop and rock was the devil's music.
In the 1980's and 90's, hard rock and heavy metal was the devil's music, and TMNT the devil's comics.

Before the 1970's, even a lot of other things, like cinema, partner dance was the devil's work among these fanatic Christians.

*Scandia* · 05-31-2009, 05:51 AM

Talk about being too rigidly strict!

I may practice a particular religion and have certain morals. I may not agree with everything in the Turtles' universes.

But to say they are completely evil like that? That they are demonic and trying to steer kids to the dark side? I think not.

But then, I have seen similar things said about Captain Planet, which is a show all about protecting the environment. It said it had "pagan" influences and thus was "not Christian". Never mind all the good messages in that show- one little pagan allusion was enough to kill it in the mind of some people.

*gobo* · 05-31-2009, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scandia

But then, I have seen similar things said about Captain Planet, which is a show all about protecting the environment. It said it had "pagan" influences and thus was "not Christian".

Well, that's just pointing out the obvious. Did they call it the devil's handiwork or just... not christian? In as much as Gaia was a Greek goddess, it obviously wasn't designed as christian entertainment. But, to deny a story's merits based on that fact is a different thing entirely. Fanaticism like that is more evil than pretty much anything on TV.

LioConvoy · 05-31-2009, 08:14 AM

I ordered both this book, and "TMNT: Exposed" last week. I'm waiting for them to come in so I can read them and successfully debunk them. Then I'm going to roll them up, find their writers, and spank them like naughty puppies.

doomiscool · 05-31-2009, 10:03 AM

Thanks for the fun read Jester! It's always funny to see how people find such things like TMNT evil

*Candy Kappa* · 05-31-2009, 10:30 AM

awesome review

*Prowler* · 05-31-2009, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J 1982

Fanatic Christians always blame something new in popular culture for the devil:

In the 1920's, 30's and 40's, jazz was the devil's music.
In the 1950's and 60's, pop and rock was the devil's music.
In the 1980's and 90's, TMNT was the devil's music.

Before the 1970's, even a lot of other things, like cinema, partner dance was the devil's work among these fanatic Christians.

You forgot Heavy Metal.

*Candy Kappa* · 05-31-2009, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prowler

You forgot Heavy Metal.

too obvious
they created Christian heavy metal to counter it

*CyberCubed* · 05-31-2009, 01:56 PM

Wouldn't surprise me if some of these people also have severe cases of autism or aspergers, to a more severe degree than others.

Its ridiculous how any time a children's property is "big," it always has people claiming its turning kids into the devil.

Doc_ock_4mugen · 05-31-2009, 02:17 PM

They are right. The trutles are EVIL!! Thanks to them I'm addicted to Pizza. Also I strike Men who wear Cheese Graters on their arms... The most evil thing that the Turtles taught me was to stick with my family through both good times and bad...

05-30-2009, 06:45 PM	#1
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	Anti-TMNT books from Phil Phillips and Joan Hake Robie http://gogreenmachine.wordpress.com/...-mind-control/ Enjoy kiddies. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

05-30-2009, 07:32 PM	#3
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	Watched them, if they are what I think they are. They star (for lack of a better trem) the author of Saturday Morning Mind Control, Phil Phillips. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

05-30-2009, 08:06 PM	#5
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	Glad my parents weren't this anal. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

05-30-2009, 09:19 PM	#9
Buslady WingsOfDarkness! Perkele! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In 7803... Posts: 4,366	Thanks for the laughs, loved it! __________________

05-31-2009, 04:58 AM	#11
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,481	Christianity Fanatic Christians always blame something new in popular culture for the devil: In the 1920's, 30's and 40's, jazz was the devil's music. In the 1950's and 60's, pop and rock was the devil's music. In the 1980's and 90's, hard rock and heavy metal was the devil's music, and TMNT the devil's comics. Before the 1970's, even a lot of other things, like cinema, partner dance was the devil's work among these fanatic Christians. Last edited by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan; 06-02-2009 at 07:06 AM.

05-30-2009, 06:59 PM	#2
Newton Gimmick Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,154	There's a huge amount of this kind of stuff out there. Usually passed off by religious zealots who are terrified that folks might find more valuable lessons in make believe comics and TV as opposed to hundred year old make believe books. If you thought that was enjoyable, check out this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoVGMwcOjL4 Which predated TMNT, but is the same sort of hogwash. There's four parts to enjoy. There's also some of those hilarious anti-D&D comics out there where they show kids learning black magic and casting spells... From a game.

05-30-2009, 07:37 PM	#4
Lordmylar06 Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2009 Location: Hurst, TX Posts: 961	Deluded overprotective Christian parenting at it's worst.

05-30-2009, 08:34 PM	#6
Lordmylar06 Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2009 Location: Hurst, TX Posts: 961	You and me both Jester. I was raised by my grandparents, and they were good people. Not too religious, just good moral people. They never would have stopped me from reading the TMNT archie series, or watching the cartoon. They knew better than what this nutjob is saying. I think there's a special place in the Inferno for people who say this sort of thing.

05-30-2009, 09:13 PM	#7
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	I had a cousin who had gotten a bunch'a TMNT stuff for Christmas once, but wasn't allowed to take it home (we were at my Grandparents' house) because his parents thought the TMNT to be evil and all that junk. My Mom was just the opposite. She bought me my first figure before I knew what they were!

05-30-2009, 09:17 PM	#8
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Most people don't read into this kind of hysteria, thankfully. And I don't think they could really put it on 2k3 anyways, considering how much they emphasized on family and stuff... My parents had no problem with me watching this show... unless there was a new episode of Martha Stewart showing at the same time on ABC...

05-31-2009, 01:16 AM	#10
Cipher Foot Elite Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,454	There's an absurd amount of this stuff out there for Pokemon as well. Of course, once things like Turtles and Pokemon cease to be fads, the zealots instantly stop caring. Despite the fact that both continue to be largely (or in Pokemon's case, enormously) successful properties. Oh well.

05-31-2009, 05:51 AM	#12
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	Talk about being too rigidly strict! I may practice a particular religion and have certain morals. I may not agree with everything in the Turtles' universes. But to say they are completely evil like that? That they are demonic and trying to steer kids to the dark side? I think not. But then, I have seen similar things said about Captain Planet, which is a show all about protecting the environment. It said it had "pagan" influences and thus was "not Christian". Never mind all the good messages in that show- one little pagan allusion was enough to kill it in the mind of some people. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

05-31-2009, 08:14 AM	#14
LioConvoy Random Punk Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 44	I ordered both this book, and "TMNT: Exposed" last week. I'm waiting for them to come in so I can read them and successfully debunk them. Then I'm going to roll them up, find their writers, and spank them like naughty puppies.

05-31-2009, 10:03 AM	#15
doomiscool Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: A random near-imaginary rock in the Irish Sea Posts: 212	Thanks for the fun read Jester! It's always funny to see how people find such things like TMNT evil

05-31-2009, 10:30 AM	#16
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	awesome review __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

05-31-2009, 01:56 PM	#19
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	Wouldn't surprise me if some of these people also have severe cases of autism or aspergers, to a more severe degree than others. Its ridiculous how any time a children's property is "big," it always has people claiming its turning kids into the devil.

05-31-2009, 02:17 PM	#20
Doc_ock_4mugen Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 389	They are right. The trutles are EVIL!! Thanks to them I'm addicted to Pizza. Also I strike Men who wear Cheese Graters on their arms... The most evil thing that the Turtles taught me was to stick with my family through both good times and bad... __________________ Mikey might be part of Nick now, but he still loves Miley... I mean Hannah... Stupid Secret Identity!!