Is a 5th Turtle necessary?

*Hero* · 06-01-2009, 05:28 PM

In my years of TMNT indulgance, I have seen fan-creations, honourary members, and token females etc added ontop of a popular foursome lineup.

IMO Personally, I prefer the Turtles as the quartet dynamic they have always been. Nothing against the fantasy character of a 5th member, but I like my TMNT being the 4 brothers they have always been since day one. The gang have never needed a 5th brother/sister before and have plentiful non-turtle back-up whatever the situation they are in.

To me a 5th Turtle has always worked when that turtle has been a renegade (Tokka, Slash, Hans, Fritz, Metalhead), but as an ally I can't buy into it.

So my question to you all is, Do you think a 5th Turtle is neccessary?

===HERO

Francis The Lost Turtle · 06-01-2009, 05:35 PM

There has already been a fifth turtle and her name was Venus from the Next Mutation.

Type 97 Chi-ha · 06-01-2009, 05:52 PM

Well, in the original toon, there was Zack.

TurtleGuy · 06-01-2009, 06:21 PM

No, I don't believe a fifth turtle is nessecary.

But if there was a fifth turtle, I'd rather he be someone who has no clear alliance. Sometimes he'd be on the turtles' side, sometimes on the side of the foot. Just someone who would side with anyone if it benefits him.

The Shelf · 06-01-2009, 06:45 PM

There have been so many 5th turtles.

Zach
Slash
Tokka
Venus
Murphy

P.S. I'm sure someone will list more that I forgot about.

*ToTheNines* · 06-01-2009, 07:00 PM

I've always liked Benvenuto, he's easily the most well thought out of the fan-made 5th turtles. But no, it's not necessary.

*Spike Spiegel* · 06-01-2009, 07:07 PM

The turtles were complete in their awesomeness from day one...no need for a fifth. It's like having a "Third Mario Brother"

...it just wouldn't fit.

Sidian · 06-01-2009, 07:07 PM

i know im such a noob but who is zach? not to mention hans and fritz...slash, tokka, and venus now i remember THEM.

anyone help me out?

The Shelf · 06-01-2009, 07:11 PM

This guy: http://tmnt.wikia.com/wiki/Zach

Zach was like the old cartoon version of Cody. I honestly don't remember who Hans or Fritz are.

*shuriken* · 06-01-2009, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurtleGuy

No, I don't believe a fifth turtle is nessecary.

But if there was a fifth turtle, I'd rather he be someone who has no clear alliance. Sometimes he'd be on the turtles' side, sometimes on the side of the foot. Just someone who would side with anyone if it benefits him.

I like how you think. That makes more sense than adding a 5th turtle to the core group like they did with the Next Mutation.
I don't think they are necessary, but having a fifth turtle occasionally in the mix is nice. I really like Slash though, to me he IS the defenite fifth turtle, and serves as a perfect doppleganger for the turtles.

Klork · 06-01-2009, 07:32 PM

On one hand I'm rather happy with just the four turtles without any additions. On the other hand, I think a fifth turtle could be done rather well if time and effort were put into the thought process. Instead of how they threw Venus in there. It just seemed a little too ... I don't know, like they wanted to re-write and say "oops, we missed a turtle!". I think he/she would have to have a different origin all together..maybe even not 'ooze' related. And I definitely don't think he/she should be added to the group--maybe an associate, but independent on their own story. Don't even have to be a ninja, frankly.

I've seen a lot of fan renditions and ...I don't know, I haven't paid attention to all the stories to know whose are good and not. I know there's a lot of decent drawings of fifths out there though.

*ToTheNines* · 06-01-2009, 07:43 PM

Hanz and Fritz were the wrestling turtles from the stupid season 4 episode "Planet of the Turltes" not to be confused with "Planet of the Turtleoids".

Sidian · 06-01-2009, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shuriken

I like how you think. That makes more sense than adding a 5th turtle to the core group like they did with the Next Mutation.
I don't think they are necessary, but having a fifth turtle occasionally in the mix is nice. I really like Slash though, to me he IS the defenite fifth turtle, and serves as a perfect doppleganger for the turtles.

i agree...Slash IS the fifth turtle...however i prefer his comic/figure look to how he appeared in the original cartoon...

although ill never think of the word binky without thinking of slash lol

Francis The Lost Turtle · 06-01-2009, 08:14 PM

I also consider in my world of TMNT fandom, Francis a fifth turtle the one in my avatar.

*Andrew NDB* · 06-01-2009, 08:19 PM

In an amusing special of the Archie comics, April became a 5th turtle for a while.

But no. No need for a 5th turtle. At all.

Raph ninja · 06-01-2009, 08:34 PM

well a 5th turtle always gives playmates a chance for new toys. (like they need any more)

~~Dan~~ · 06-01-2009, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Shelf

There have been so many 5th turtles.

Zach
Slash
Tokka
Venus
Murphy

Who is Murphy?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Hanz and Fritz were the wrestling turtles from the stupid season 4 episode "Planet of the Turltes" not to be confused with "Planet of the Turtleoids".

There is no episode called "Planet of the Turltes".

*ToTheNines* · 06-01-2009, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan

Who is Murphy?

There is no episode called "Planet of the Turltes".

I meant Turtles, smart ass.

And Murphy (aka Dean Clarian) is a Mirage employee who used to have a popular blog called the 5th turtle.

*XERO* · 06-01-2009, 09:51 PM

Don't mind me, just passin' by. [/shamelessplug]

**Jester** · 06-01-2009, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benvenuto

Don't mind me, just passin' by. [/shamelessplug]

Get out of here, you're unnecessary!!

You know I love you Benny, boy!

06-01-2009, 05:28 PM	#1
Hero British Bloke Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 2,298	Is a 5th Turtle necessary? In my years of TMNT indulgance, I have seen fan-creations, honourary members, and token females etc added ontop of a popular foursome lineup. IMO Personally, I prefer the Turtles as the quartet dynamic they have always been. Nothing against the fantasy character of a 5th member, but I like my TMNT being the 4 brothers they have always been since day one. The gang have never needed a 5th brother/sister before and have plentiful non-turtle back-up whatever the situation they are in. To me a 5th Turtle has always worked when that turtle has been a renegade (Tokka, Slash, Hans, Fritz, Metalhead), but as an ally I can't buy into it. So my question to you all is, Do you think a 5th Turtle is neccessary? ===HERO __________________ Go Green Machine My Facebook -My Tumblr - My Art - Figured 0ut - My Awesome Instagram

06-01-2009, 05:35 PM	#2
Francis The Lost Turtle Random Punk Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 35	There has already been a fifth turtle and her name was Venus from the Next Mutation. __________________

06-01-2009, 08:14 PM	#14
Francis The Lost Turtle Random Punk Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 35	I also consider in my world of TMNT fandom, Francis a fifth turtle the one in my avatar. __________________

06-01-2009, 08:34 PM	#16
Raph ninja Random Punk Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SHELLasana Posts: 29	well a 5th turtle always gives playmates a chance for new toys. (like they need any more) __________________

06-01-2009, 09:51 PM	#19
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	Don't mind me, just passin' by. [/shamelessplug] __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

06-01-2009, 05:52 PM	#3
Type 97 Chi-ha Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Brookfield, IL Posts: 1,333	Well, in the original toon, there was Zack.

06-01-2009, 06:21 PM	#4
TurtleGuy Foot Soldier Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 231	No, I don't believe a fifth turtle is nessecary. But if there was a fifth turtle, I'd rather he be someone who has no clear alliance. Sometimes he'd be on the turtles' side, sometimes on the side of the foot. Just someone who would side with anyone if it benefits him.

06-01-2009, 06:45 PM	#5
The Shelf Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,031	There have been so many 5th turtles. Zach Slash Tokka Venus Murphy P.S. I'm sure someone will list more that I forgot about.

06-01-2009, 07:00 PM	#6
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,341	I've always liked Benvenuto, he's easily the most well thought out of the fan-made 5th turtles. But no, it's not necessary.

06-01-2009, 07:07 PM	#8
Sidian Random Punk Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 20	i know im such a noob but who is zach? not to mention hans and fritz...slash, tokka, and venus now i remember THEM. anyone help me out?

06-01-2009, 07:11 PM	#9
The Shelf Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,031	This guy: http://tmnt.wikia.com/wiki/Zach Zach was like the old cartoon version of Cody. I honestly don't remember who Hans or Fritz are.

06-01-2009, 07:32 PM	#11
Klork Mouser Join Date: May 2009 Location: WA, USA Posts: 8	On one hand I'm rather happy with just the four turtles without any additions. On the other hand, I think a fifth turtle could be done rather well if time and effort were put into the thought process. Instead of how they threw Venus in there. It just seemed a little too ... I don't know, like they wanted to re-write and say "oops, we missed a turtle!". I think he/she would have to have a different origin all together..maybe even not 'ooze' related. And I definitely don't think he/she should be added to the group--maybe an associate, but independent on their own story. Don't even have to be a ninja, frankly. I've seen a lot of fan renditions and ...I don't know, I haven't paid attention to all the stories to know whose are good and not. I know there's a lot of decent drawings of fifths out there though.

06-01-2009, 07:43 PM	#12
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,341	Hanz and Fritz were the wrestling turtles from the stupid season 4 episode "Planet of the Turltes" not to be confused with "Planet of the Turtleoids".

06-01-2009, 08:19 PM	#15
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,537	In an amusing special of the Archie comics, April became a 5th turtle for a while. But no. No need for a 5th turtle. At all.