Michaelangelo and Raphael

[Jelly Bean]

Very sweet. Very sweet indeed. Is that Raph or Mikey getting pushed away in the very first pannel?

I guess I'm going to be first to say this but I even though I really do dig the Raph and Mikey friendship, sometimes it gets on my nerves. I can't say this for the mirage comics since I've never read them, but in the 80's toon and 4KIDS toon I kind of find their friendship a bit mean spirited. Especially from Raph in both cartoons.

80's Raph is always putting Mike down, and 4KIDS Raph is pretty violent and belittling of Mikey. Mikey in the 4KIDS cartoon may ask for it alot, but sometimes it seems like Raph really hates the little spazz. I'm sorry this didn't happen during the shows run in either cartoon, but I would have liked to have seen Mikey slap Raph back (4KIDS toon) and tell Raph off (80's toon).

That's one of the things that annoyed me about the old toon sorry to say, Raph was way too much of a bully and Mike was just too nice or ditzy to ever fight back

It's because he was too nice. I don't find 80's Mike ditzy like other people do.

But yes, the introduction of Casey alters things -- dilutes it a bit

do you think there was ever any jealousy on Mike's part when Casey came into the picture?