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Old 06-26-2009, 03:47 AM   #141
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I was just reading in "The Disintegrator Unit" I cant believe that dude. If you dont like someone or what someone has done it pays to just keep your mouth shut. There's plenty of jokes but theres always a time and a place to do it and today is not it. (sorry couldnt reply in the other topic)

Now that I have that out im just wondering what sonic 3 has to do with this??? I mentioned MJ's Moonwalker which was still on topic in a way.
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Old 06-26-2009, 03:52 AM   #142
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Now that I have that out im just wondering what sonic 3 has to do with this???
The music there was composed by MJ himself, at least part of it, afair.
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Old 06-26-2009, 03:55 AM   #143
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Now that I have that out im just wondering what sonic 3 has to do with this???
Michael composed the music for the Sonic 3 game.

Listen to the Carnival Night Zone and Credits BGMs if you ever get a chance. Some of the samples were incorporated into or from the 'Jam' and 'Stranger in Moscow' songs.

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Wow...

... As soon as I mentioned 'Jam', it pops up on MTV.

F*cking awesome.

I'm sure TMB can give a better answer than I can, though.
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:01 AM   #144
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They play Michael Jackson songs on the radio.
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:04 AM   #145
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Ah true thats wicked I never knew. I just brought the Sonic Mega Collection for my step son which has that so I know what im doing tomorrow
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:15 AM   #146
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Yep. Michael Jackson is on the radio now and his videos are the first to popup upon accessing Youtube. I learned the news via text earlier today. I didn't believe it at first thinking it was some kind of bad joke. But when I did confirmed it, it was sad news. I'm playing MJ songs right now.
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Old 06-26-2009, 07:32 AM   #147
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I'm still too surprised to say anything meaningful.

Best video he ever did...



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Old 06-26-2009, 10:17 AM   #148
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Truly a trgic lose, the most powerful and influential performer of all times. He will be missed.

Is there any good TV specials or documentaries I can watch from his past? I don't want to see the "Living with" one, I have seen it. I just remember seeing a cool TV documentary on him when I was a kid, and I'd love to see something like that again if I could find it.
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Old 06-26-2009, 01:53 PM   #149
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Michael composed the music for the Sonic 3 game.

Listen to the Carnival Night Zone and Credits BGMs if you ever get a chance. Some of the samples were incorporated into or from the 'Jam' and 'Stranger in Moscow' songs.

...

Wow...

... As soon as I mentioned 'Jam', it pops up on MTV.

F*cking awesome.

I'm sure TMB can give a better answer than I can, though.
Yeah, actually it goes the other way. Those songs were written before the game's release. Actual Samples of Jam were found on the cart. You can also hear MIchael's trademark "Whoo!" during the first sub-boss in Sonic 3, but they canceled that song out when you lock on to Sonic & Knuckles.

The story is, Michael (who was a big-time Sonic fan) did the music to Sonic 3, but Sega supposedly cut his work when the original molestation allegations hit in the 90s. It was a bullsh*t cover story. They didn't cut his work out of the game. They just cut his name out of the credits. Heck, they were so sloppy about it, all of his songwriters are still in the Special Thanks section (they were taken out when you lock Sonic 3 & Knuckles together). The name "Sirocco" is still in the credits near the end. This is expected to be a nickname for MJ.

All the stuff in Sonic 3 has his style all over it. Ice Cap is extremely similar to "Who Is It" from Dangerous with Smooth Criminal's exact FM bass beat, as well as Carnival Night being a play on "Jam". He did the soundtrack. There's no question, and magazines covered it back in the day before Sega asked them to bury the story. Supposedly, he did a couple in Sonic & Knuckles as well (since they were developed as one game). Some of S&K's music can still be found on the Sonic 3 cartridge alone via debug. That's believed to be MJ's stuff, while everything else was completed by Howard Drossin. You can find some of the evidence on Youtube. The most compelling evidence is Sonic 3's credits. The song is essentially a karaoke version of Stranger in Moscow, two years before that song was released. He reused a video game medley later to write what is one of his greatest works. He is believed to have finished pretty much Sonic 3's whole soundtrack, and a chunk of Sonic & Knuckles, but all the work with featured samples of his voice (boss fight, Launch Base, Carnival Night) or samples of trademark MJ basslines (Ice Cap's back beat) were cut out of the PC version "Sonic & Knuckles Collection" and replaced with forgettable dribble.

He was supposed to be credited for that work, just like he should be credited for "Do The Bartman" which he ghost-wrote. Yuji Naka almost let it publically slip a while back, but he chickened out. It pisses me off because the mainstream public deserves to know MJ wrote the best Sonic soundtrack (easy) to one of the top five best platformers ever made.
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Old 06-26-2009, 03:10 PM   #150
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Thank you for that, TMB. I can read that forever.

It's totally not fair that he didn't get the credit he truly deserved for that soundtrack, because it's legendary.
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Old 06-26-2009, 03:11 PM   #151
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MTV is actually showing his videos today. This was the first time I ever watched MTV with my mother...a sure sign of his appeal as an artist...

Looking at the videos, I see a certain aesthetic quality that is just not evident in today's music videos, etc. No fancy cars or money everywhere, just music...the entire world is at a huge loss today.
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Old 06-26-2009, 03:26 PM   #152
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Heh, I got something for ya, Spike.



Calling this 'beautiful' would be an insult.
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Old 06-26-2009, 03:40 PM   #153
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Tried to find Rockwell's "Somebody's watching me", where Michael did the awesome chorus, unfortunately I can only stumble across some crappy remixes on Youtube.

Darn.
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Old 06-26-2009, 03:43 PM   #154
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Vh1 also gave their MJ TOP 10 which feature thriller as no 1 and also feature beat it ,billy jean, bad , smooth criminal , dirty diana. I heard that he may of had heart attack form something that helps with back pain , their looking for his personal doctor but his long gone. I totally love his music i even own his game (moonwalker) for the sms. RIP MJ.
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Old 06-26-2009, 03:45 PM   #155
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Calling this 'beautiful' would be an insult.
Videos like that seriously make me wish I could be a 70s or 80s teen rather than one of today...or that I could at least visit...

I'll take real art over the plagiaristic music of today...
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Old 06-26-2009, 03:52 PM   #156
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I think I'm still waiting for it to sink in. He's one of the artists I grew up with, I was 8 when 'Thriller' came out, and it was the first album I bought after getting my very own cassette player!

I feel like like part of my life is gone.
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:30 PM   #157
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Kinda telling to see the High School Musical kids crying and showing respect.
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:31 PM   #158
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I just graduated high school so most kids I talk to only know Mike as the "pedophile", but I'm really glad that MTV and the radio is getting all his great work out there so some younger folks can be properly introduced. Hopefully they give him a chance.
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Old 06-26-2009, 05:22 PM   #159
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I'm not really a big fan fan of pop, but I love his music. May he R.I.P. forever, as he is, and always will be, The King of Pop Music.
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Old 06-26-2009, 05:59 PM   #160
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The amount of Michael Jackson domain names for sale on ebay right now is disgusting. Things like "MichaelJacksonJustDied.net"...**** these people.
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