Transformers 2

[Brodie]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Oh get off of it. My crew thought it was racist. Anyone who says otherwise is just being "patrioticly apologetic"

Funny how most of the quotes revolve around the yankie-doodle-d*ckhead humour too...

Everyone already knows you decided to like this movie because no one else would. The same reason you hate the first one because everyone liked it.

It must be really hard trying to be an Alt-trend-****stick all the time.

[Cipher]

Originally Posted by Brodie

Everyone already knows you decided to like this movie because no one else would. The same reason you hate the first one because everyone liked it.

It must be really hard trying to be an Alt-trend-****stick all the time.

Woah? Is this just something against Zarius personally? Because I think it's totally legitimate to hate this movie for just being sh*tty. Same for the last one.

But I'm done now. It's cool that people still enjoy these movies. I just hope it's not a trend that continues.

[Brodie]

Originally Posted by Cipher

Woah? Is this just something against Zarius personally?

Absolutely not.

Originally Posted by Cipher

But I'm done now. It's cool that people still enjoy these movies. I just hope it's not a trend that continues.

I agree, but there was just too much that can't be completely forgiven in this one. Like, there were aspects of it that were fine, but others that just boggle the mind.

[cqb101]

Originally Posted by Peanut

This thread is pathetic. It feels like I walked into the TMNT section.

Hahaha...Oh, wait.

[Mecha Cow]

I... I just saw it. I wish I could accurately describe my feelings on the movie, but I'm afraid it's left me incapable of doing anything besides dwelling on how unbelievably stupid it was.

Spoiler:

Look. I love the first movie. It's dumb as hell, but I think it's fantastic for what it is. I wouldn't call it a good movie, but it certainly is a fun one. It has heart, and it has style, and if you allow yourself to enter its stupid little world everything will make sense and you'll have yourself a damn good time.

So it's not like I'm one to sh*t on a movie for lacking sophistication.

But nothing in this movie made any sense whatsoever. NOTHING. Why did Megatron come back? Why did Optimus die? What was the point of the Fallen? What was the point of any of the new characters, for that matter? None of it added anything. This wasn't even a movie. It was a collection of scenes, with random crap happening for no reason at all.

I have to laugh at the praise this sequel gets for supposedly involving more of the robot characters. Aside from a handful of very brief fight scenes, the Transformers were relegated to standing in the background blowing stuff up. I guess I'm supposed to care about the ridiculous new characters that are thrown in my face without any backstory or explanation? Like the Twins, who were not racist, just incredibly retarded.

I honestly can't even say I hated the movie. I didn't. In order to hate it I'd need to have at least some vague, basic understanding of what I saw, and I sure as sh*t don't.

But as much as I wanted to, I didn't like it either. The only thing I did like was Bumblebee. He was a remnant of the first movie more than anything else, keeping silent and staying on the sidelines, as if he were ashamed of being there at all. And I felt bad for him. Bad that he had to be part of this clusterf*ck.

[Hero]

What happened to...

Spoiler:

Skids and Mudflap? They seemingly disappeared at/around the Devastator battle.

[Brodie]

Originally Posted by Hero

What happened to...

Spoiler:

Skids and Mudflap? They seemingly disappeared at/around the Devastator battle.

Who cares?

Spoiler:

During that fight I had hoped that one of them would be dead....then it came back.

I agree with everything Mecha said....but I look at it this way: It wasn't as bad as Wolverine.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Originally Posted by Hero

What happened to...

Spoiler:

Skids and Mudflap? They seemingly disappeared at/around the Devastator battle.

good question. for that matter

Spoiler:

did there seem to be alot less Autobots and Decepticons in this movie? Devastator was ok, but he got pwned too easily

[Barkworm]

I agree with everything Mecha and Brodie said about this movie except the "not being as bad as Wolverine"-part. I don't think Wolverine was anywhere near as bad as this mess.

The first film was entertaining as hell. This one on the other hand was annoying. Everything about it was annoying, the ridiculously chaotic action scenes, the laughable dialogue and the stupid scipt. And while it might not have been racist, it was definitely sexist. Every female character in it was either a whore (that Decepticon slut), f*cking retarded (Sam's mother) or both (Megan Fox).

[Dark 5cythe]

Wow it must be really miserable to not be able to enjoy a fun movie because it isnt a cinematic masterpeice.

It isnt enough anymore that a movie is enjoyable. Now it needs to be PERFECT and every facet of it needs to be bland. Dont dare inject humor into it. It needs to be totally serious and dark. *eyeroll*

sorry but no. I find it funny that so many fanboys are ripping on this movie that was FUN and totally forget and ignore the faults in their other favorite movies because those movies are "nostalgic".

But hey, the general public has spoken and they are loving this movie even though the internet seems to hate it. Check out the sales figures and the records it made already.

[The Stryker]

I thought it was pretty good.

Then again I liked Dragonball:Evolution and apparently that was a sin against humanity as well.

[Brodie]

Fanboys arent the only people who didn't like it. Far from it actually. I'm fine with enjoying movies for being pure entertainment...but this movie wasnt all that entertaining. I find it hard to swallow when a movie costs that much to make, but they forget to finish the story, yet still release it without explaining all the necessary plot points.

Edit: I will note that I don't hate the movie. There are just certain things that just boggle my mind, and really bug me. I feel like just adding random robots into the movie didnt solve anything.



Random question: Did anyone else find it hard to pick out Megatron in the end fight scene with all the random Decepticons?

[cqb101]

Originally Posted by Dark 5cythe

Wow it must be really miserable to not be able to enjoy a fun movie because it isnt a cinematic masterpeice.

It isnt enough anymore that a movie is enjoyable. Now it needs to be PERFECT and every facet of it needs to be bland. Dont dare inject humor into it. It needs to be totally serious and dark. *eyeroll*

sorry but no. I find it funny that so many fanboys are ripping on this movie that was FUN and totally forget and ignore the faults in their other favorite movies because those movies are "nostalgic".

But hey, the general public has spoken and they are loving this movie even though the internet seems to hate it. Check out the sales figures and the records it made already.

It has nothing to do with not being able to enjoy a "fun" movie. The first Transformers movies was a lo of fun, and I absolutely loved it. I still love it. Hell, I probably watch it about once a month. Revenge of the Fallen just wasn't very fun, IMO. I didn't laugh (atleast not any intentional jokes), I found it to be drawn out and boring, and Bumblebee (one of the best parts of the first film) was barely in it. It wasn't fun at all. I couldn't wait for it to end.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by Brodie

Random question: Did anyone else find it hard to pick out Megatron in the end fight scene with all the random Decepticons?

I had trouble when it was just him and Starscream.

Doesn't help that all the decepticons seem to be made out of knives.

[Brodie]

Nothing is more terrifying than guns and knives transforming into bigger knives.

[Spitfire]

I didn't see the film, I don't intend to I just felt I had to comment on this...

Originally Posted by Dark 5cythe

Wow it must be really miserable to not be able to enjoy a fun movie because it isnt a cinematic masterpeice.

It isnt enough anymore that a movie is enjoyable. Now it needs to be PERFECT and every facet of it needs to be bland. Dont dare inject humor into it. It needs to be totally serious and dark. *eyeroll*

So perfection is bland? That's an interesting take.

All kidding aside a movie can be very fun and a cinematic masterpiece. A movie can have lots of humor in it and still be serious. It's called balancing a film. You have good actors, you have a good script, and you present the film well. Here are a few examples of successful films that were both masterpieces in their own right and funny.
Drag Me To Hell*Hell the Evil Dead series as well*
The Departed
Iron-Man
Hellboy(Both of them)
Burn After Reading
Trainspotting

Now masterpiece is all a matter of opinion in some cases. These movies aren't all masterpieces per say but they were all good without any doubt. These are also a small small chunk of all the films out there. I'm sure others could come up with a better list that's just off the top of my head.

There's also comedy films that manage to be great movies, like Tropic Thunder and The Hangover. Both critics and audiences loved them, hell Tropic Thunder got Downy a supporting actor nomination.

Some people don't enjoy watching a 2 and a half hour toy advertisement, which seems to be the general critical consensus. I personally dislike Transformers as a concept. I gave the first film a chance and I didn't like it. Not everyone has the same tastes and not liking one film hardly means people are the way you say they are. Learn to be a tad more open minded.

But hey, the general public has spoken and they are loving this movie even though the internet seems to hate it. Check out the sales figures and the records it made already.

The general public also went and saw the new "Fast and the Furious" film and helped it gross over 150 million dollars. General public now consists of mostly foreigners who love American anything because the films we make here are a lot higher budget then what they make. They don't get to see many films with giant robots in it blowing **** up so no matter how bad it is they will enjoy it. The film, along with Terminator 4, is sweeping the foreign market.

I'm not saying foreigners are idiots by any means but things get lost in translation. Acting to them is pointless as the film is either dubbed or subtitled. So no matter how bad the acting is they will never know. Also the story is changed a little. The lines spoken must be changed or phrased in a way that works in their language and that sometimes changes the meaning of things.

A great is example is the movie "Hero". I loved it, all my Chinese friends hated it. They said the acting wasn't very good and they had heard the story before a million times. I believe the same logic applies here.

Be objective.

[Jester]

I hated this movie. I watch a lot of crap, but this was just painful. My buddy and I MST3Ked it as quietly as we could (it was all we could do to try and enjoy ourselves. I mean come on

Spoiler:

There's a Decepticon who can be a "hot college chick" yet Bumble Bee, Prime and the others have to be Chevys WTH?!

,) but not quietly enough for the shrew in front of us who was really enjoying herself, laughing at every juvenile joke that came out of Mudflap, Skids, and the lil' Decepticon's mouths. She actually called us out and told us she could hear the movie (by now in the final epic battle that was all explosions and no dialogue) over us yammering.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by Jester

but not quietly enough for the shrew in front of us who was really enjoying herself, laughing at every juvenile joke that came out of Mudflap, Skids, and the lil' Decepticon's mouths. She actually called us out and told us she could hear the movie (by now in the final epic battle that was all explosions and no dialogue) over us yammering.

Well, you were talking.

Doesn't matter whats happening in the movie, shut the hell up.

Spitfire, Drag me to hell was not successful and I'm gonna take a guess and say that you haven't seen Fast and Furious either, not too bad actually.

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by Stryker

Spitfire, Drag me to hell was not successful and I'm gonna take a guess and say that you haven't seen Fast and Furious either, not too bad actually.

I didn't mean financially I meant it pulled off being good cinema. And like most good cinema that comes out now a days it got the shaft. It'll be a cult classic as with most his movies that weren't Spider-man.

And no I didn't see it, but it was the fourth in the series. I saw the first two and that was enough for me. I also saw it got ripped apart by critics, who seldom steer me the wrong way but sometimes they do. I usually agree with them though. Again all opinion based.

[Dark 5cythe]

Originally Posted by Brodie

Fanboys arent the only people who didn't like it. Far from it actually. I'm fine with enjoying movies for being pure entertainment...but this movie wasnt all that entertaining. I find it hard to swallow when a movie costs that much to make, but they forget to finish the story, yet still release it without explaining all the necessary plot points.

Edit: I will note that I don't hate the movie. There are just certain things that just boggle my mind, and really bug me. I feel like just adding random robots into the movie didnt solve anything.

The cost of a movie doesnt mean the quality. So really mentioning the cost doesnt say anything. The cost just means how many animators and riggers and lighting and texturing artists it took to get this many robots moving.

It sure seems that only hardcore fanboys and critics are hating the movie. When i saw it the whole theatre was ooooing and laughing and enjoying it. people clapped.

Originally Posted by Jester

I hated this movie. I watch a lot of crap, but this was just painful. My buddy and I MST3Ked it as quietly as we could (it was all we could do to try and enjoy ourselves. I mean come on

Spoiler:

There's a Decepticon who can be a "hot college chick" yet Bumble Bee, Prime and the others have to be Chevys WTH?!

,) but not quietly enough for the shrew in front of us who was really enjoying herself, laughing at every juvenile joke that came out of Mudflap, Skids, and the lil' Decepticon's mouths. She actually called us out and told us she could hear the movie (by now in the final epic battle that was all explosions and no dialogue) over us yammering.

I guess you dont know alot about TF from back in the day. The female Decepticon was a Pretender. They had the ability to hide as humans.

Originally Posted by Stryker

Well, you were talking.

Doesn't matter whats happening in the movie, shut the hell up.

FTW!

And frankly, this movie IS a 2 and a half hour TOY COMMERCIAL for the masses. No need to get in a huff and fight anyone.

But the movie was still fun. Now if this isnt your kind of movie, i guess then yeah your not gonna like it. But that doesnt mean the movie wasnt good.