The Nintendo Discussion Thread - Page 371

poiuytre · 06-24-2009, 03:08 PM

The only remixed song I recall was the lost woods one. Overall I preferred Twilight Princess over Wind Waker by a pretty large margin. The only real flaws I had were the slow intro that held your hand too much, the midi quality of music (due to the GCN version I guess), the noise that passed off as music in the Twilight realm and the relatively small number of sidequests. The game was too long to have that little distraction between dungeons. Near the end I felt like I was just hopping directly from one dungeon into the next. (I didn't care for the fishing so I never did it.) The absence of the pictograph box was disappointing as well. It was the best feature of 3D Zeldas for me.

Wind Waker on the other hand did have a magnificent finale and, while I might still prefer TP's for now, visual presentation that will age much better.

Peanut · 06-24-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Benvenuto

Well, isn't that what Nintendo do with most of their series anyway? Remix the main themes and add a new one every other sequel?

No? That's actually the exact opposite of what they do.

Look at all the previous Zelda games, they've all had their own standout themes and entirely new compositions. They pull very specific things in here and there, but none of them have ever pulled so directly from previous games as TP did. Almost every song felt like on homage to a previous theme.

Same with Mario. Give me a Mario game where they used even half, or even a quarter of the same themes.

*XERO* · 06-24-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

Same with Mario. Give me a Mario game where they used even half, or even a quarter of the same themes.

Sad for me, I've yet to play Galaxy besides the demo, so I don't know about its soundtrack.

New Super Mario Bros I know for sure had original music save for the underground remix.

~~AquaParade~~ · 06-29-2009, 10:17 PM

Anyone pick up The Conduit? What do you think?

Peanut · 06-30-2009, 02:39 PM

My idiot friend got it because it's "TEH HARDCOREZ!" and it redefines a lot of terms.

Those terms are: Mediocre, redundant, and insipid. You could probably shove something about how fanboys will eat sh*t if it's released on their console of preference, too. Just to be safe.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 06-30-2009, 09:34 PM

Yeah, played the demo at Gamestop today and it blew chunks. Pass.

*Cure* · 07-02-2009, 02:38 PM

I just read in a GoNintendo article that took snippets from an interview with Miyamoto in Nintendo Power and when asked if the new Zelda would be any different he says...

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I don’t think it’s going to be that radically different.

...f*ck.

愛 · 07-02-2009, 02:48 PM

Hell yeah, waggle controls!

**ThirdMarioBro** · 07-02-2009, 03:30 PM

"Shake Wiimote to open Treasure Chest"

*XERO* · 07-02-2009, 03:50 PM

Hey, couldn't you just use the GameCube controller on the Wii version of Zelda, or is it not programmed for that?

*Cure* · 07-02-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Benvenuto

Hey, couldn't you just use the GameCube controller on the Wii version of Zelda, or is it not programmed for that?

No, you had to buy the Gamecube version of the game for that.

And my point wasn't anything about waggle, it was about Zelda needing a change. The formula has gotten stale already. To me, anyway.

*XERO* · 07-02-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCure

No, you had to buy the Gamecube version of the game for that.

And my point wasn't anything about waggle, it was about Zelda needing a change. The formula has gotten stale already. To me, anyway.

Yeah, I have the Cube version. I just figured I'd ask since Ai an TMB brought it up. Nobody never really mentioned it before.

What else can they do the formula of Zelda to keep it fresh without going overboard and forgetting the reasons why it became popular in the first place? I mean, if Miyamoto himself said that it wasn't gonna be any different, he must be running out of ideas.

愛 · 07-02-2009, 04:25 PM

Well, I guess Miyamoto's hit that point at last...

Link has to go to space.

*XERO* · 07-02-2009, 04:32 PM

Yeah, I can see the Master Sword being dormant inside a Black Hole.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 07-02-2009, 05:14 PM

I want a Victorian era/Gothic style Zelda. Wanted one for a long time. I leave the gameplay in Miyamoto's hands, but there's endless styles for them to explorer. Really, there's no sense trying to figure out what a new Zelda is going to be like based on one cryptic Shiggy comment. Hasn't worked in twenty years, won't start working now.

*Cipher* · 07-02-2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Benvenuto

What else can they do the formula of Zelda to keep it fresh without going overboard and forgetting the reasons why it became popular in the first place?

I thought Majora's Mask and Wind Waker did a pretty good job of mixing things up while still being distintly Zelda.

You know what else would work? If they actually delivered on the expansive, living world they promised in Twilight Princess (but that we didn't get). A world as immersive as Clock Town, but as big as the Great Sea, with the usual Zelda dungeons thrown in. That could be cool.

Or hell, a setting change would work to. I'd accept Victorian Zelda, or Space Zelda, as long as the gameplay was intact.

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"Shake Wiimote to open Treasure Chest"

I think I might've enjoyed Twilight Princess a lot more if I'd played it on the Gamecube. Using a Gamecube controller should just be a standard option on all non-gimmick Wii games anyway.

*XERO* · 07-02-2009, 08:07 PM

It'd be interesting if they made a modern day Zelda.

*Cure* · 07-03-2009, 11:29 PM

Anything new would be good.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 07-04-2009, 12:26 AM

Yeah, as much as I loved TP, if they just phone in the visual style and make "another one", I'll be hugely disappointed.

*Dr. Doom* · 07-04-2009, 01:16 AM

I'd still love it and I'm not ashamed to say so.

06-24-2009, 03:08 PM	#7401
poiuytre Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 437	The only remixed song I recall was the lost woods one. Overall I preferred Twilight Princess over Wind Waker by a pretty large margin. The only real flaws I had were the slow intro that held your hand too much, the midi quality of music (due to the GCN version I guess), the noise that passed off as music in the Twilight realm and the relatively small number of sidequests. The game was too long to have that little distraction between dungeons. Near the end I felt like I was just hopping directly from one dungeon into the next. (I didn't care for the fishing so I never did it.) The absence of the pictograph box was disappointing as well. It was the best feature of 3D Zeldas for me. Wind Waker on the other hand did have a magnificent finale and, while I might still prefer TP's for now, visual presentation that will age much better. __________________ "That girl...she said that the sky frightened her. That looks so...liberating."

06-30-2009, 09:34 PM	#7406
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	Yeah, played the demo at Gamestop today and it blew chunks. Pass. __________________

07-02-2009, 03:30 PM	#7409
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07-02-2009, 03:50 PM	#7410
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	Hey, couldn't you just use the GameCube controller on the Wii version of Zelda, or is it not programmed for that? __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

07-02-2009, 04:32 PM	#7414
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	Yeah, I can see the Master Sword being dormant inside a Black Hole. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

06-29-2009, 10:17 PM	#7404
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	Anyone pick up The Conduit? What do you think?

06-30-2009, 02:39 PM	#7405
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	My idiot friend got it because it's "TEH HARDCOREZ!" and it redefines a lot of terms. Those terms are: Mediocre, redundant, and insipid. You could probably shove something about how fanboys will eat sh*t if it's released on their console of preference, too. Just to be safe.

07-02-2009, 02:48 PM	#7408
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	Hell yeah, waggle controls!

07-02-2009, 04:25 PM	#7413
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	Well, I guess Miyamoto's hit that point at last... Link has to go to space.

07-02-2009, 05:14 PM	#7415
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	I want a Victorian era/Gothic style Zelda. Wanted one for a long time. I leave the gameplay in Miyamoto's hands, but there's endless styles for them to explorer. Really, there's no sense trying to figure out what a new Zelda is going to be like based on one cryptic Shiggy comment. Hasn't worked in twenty years, won't start working now. __________________

07-02-2009, 08:07 PM	#7417
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	It'd be interesting if they made a modern day Zelda. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

07-03-2009, 11:29 PM	#7418
Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	Anything new would be good. __________________

07-04-2009, 12:26 AM	#7419
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	Yeah, as much as I loved TP, if they just phone in the visual style and make "another one", I'll be hugely disappointed. __________________

07-04-2009, 01:16 AM	#7420
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