Any Sonic fans here? - Page 4

**ThirdMarioBro** · 07-22-2009, 12:47 AM

Sonic Riders was such a waste in so many ways -- worst, because Sega used the F-Zero GX engine on that abortion. Tragic. The textures were PS1 quality.

*Samhain* · 08-10-2009, 11:30 AM

Sonic on the 360 blows! I was so excited about it, spent $60 and got home only to find the controls were horrible. Game is very pretty tho.

Peanut · 08-10-2009, 12:26 PM

Which Sonic game? Just Sonic the Hedgehog or Sonic Unleashed? Where do you live that either game is still $60? Sonic Next-Gen is $10 everywhere, and it's even going to be up on the 360 for download in about a week for $19.99.

愛 · 08-10-2009, 08:21 PM

I thought Sonic was over and done with. Like, forever.

*Brodie* · 08-10-2009, 08:27 PM

But you're a retard who only pays attention to your asian girlfriend, Jackie Chan.

Of course you wouldn't know anything.

愛 · 08-10-2009, 08:31 PM

Sounds like jealousy, my good friend. <3

*Brodie* · 08-10-2009, 09:11 PM

You win this round, buddy.

*oldmanwinters* · 08-10-2009, 09:39 PM

I've never stopped playing that old 16-bit goodness! Oh, and the Sonic Adventure games for Dreamcast continue to keep me happy.

I also collected Sonic Archie comics without fail up until about issue 52. I have noticed that series is notoriously hard to track down in comic stores. Anyone else have that experience?

*XERO* · 08-10-2009, 10:19 PM

As I sit here typing this, watching my neices and nephews play through the 2-player mode of Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, I can't help but smile.

Even if they do fall off the cliffs every time.

*Cipher* · 08-10-2009, 10:31 PM

So...does anyone else hold the opinion that Sonic Heroes would've been a good game (and the last good 3D Sonic game) if they had just removed the damn robot fights?

*XERO* · 08-10-2009, 10:45 PM

Yeah, they dragged on a bit too much, especially the Egg Albatross.

*Cipher* · 08-10-2009, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benvenuto

Yeah, they dragged on a bit too much, especially the Egg Albatross.

I'm not even talking about the bosses. Just the normal enemies. Here you have huge levels filled with speed and genuinely good platforming ruined by a cluster of robots with huge life-bars. What the hell?

*XERO* · 08-10-2009, 11:59 PM

Oh, my bad.

You're right on that, though. I miss the one hit jumps, too.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 08-11-2009, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cipher

So...does anyone else hold the opinion that Sonic Heroes would've been a good game (and the last good 3D Sonic game) if they had just removed the damn robot fights?

Yeah, I can agree with that. It was flawed, but at least they actually tried. It was just good to see Sonic/Tails/Knuckles together bouncing around a giant pinball table.

People forget, Sonic's original design wasn't based on speed. It was based on the concept of a living pinball. The new Sega doesn't understand this, and probably never will get past the stereotype of "SONIC GOES REALLY FAST!".

Peanut · 08-11-2009, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cipher

So...does anyone else hold the opinion that Sonic Heroes would've been a good game (and the last good 3D Sonic game) if they had just removed the damn robot fights?

No. Everything about that game was completely f*cking mediocre, and if it wasn't mediocre it was downright awful. It's nothing but a test in tedium and boredom in every single way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMB

People forget, Sonic's original design wasn't based on speed. It was based on the concept of a living pinball. The new Sega doesn't understand this, and probably never will get past the stereotype of "SONIC GOES REALLY FAST!".

Because Sonic does go really fast, it's the only thing he's good at. The appeal of Sonic has nothing to do with bouncing around out of control. If Sonic was all about being a "living pinball" then why the f*ck does everyone seem to hate Spinball?

I don't know why anyone even attempts to making arguments for Sonic anymore. The 2D games were simple. They involved light platforming with floaty jumps, and a ridiculous sense of speed that made you feel like you were reacting to things in the environment really fast, when you had almost no input at all, in general, you had very little control over Sonic in a lot of cases. When you try and transition that simplified gameplay to 3D, it utterly shatters, because Sonic simply doesn't work when you have so much control over him. That's why the Sonic levels in Unleashed worked, and that's why the 2D games have continued to work.

And I hate when people try and make excuses like "Sonic is about more than going fast." when that simply isn't true. The worst parts in all Sonic games are the parts where you have to stop and attempt a jump with the sh*tty jumping mechanics, or you have to keep messing around underwater where you can't even run. And at this point, Sonic hasn't aged well. I can sit kids down in front a Super Nintendo and let them play Super Mario World and they'll still have a blast. You give them Sonic and you'll get two levels in before the boredom sinks in and they start crying to play something else. I always think it's telling when you can't get a person who never grew up with something to sit down and watch/play it.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 08-18-2009, 08:14 PM

Well, yeah. There's no arguing that Super Mario World is the greatest thing since BBQ Baked Pizza. Sonic is really only worth a laugh now, so on that note...

Here's a series of five flash movies from Newgrounds. Its essentially a ripoff of Robot Chicken done Sonic style. Bear in mind, you're only going to get some of the jokes if you're a Sonic fan, but most of them don't go beyond the realm of casual knowledge. I lol'd until it hurt.

Volume 1:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/427405

Volume 2:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/436074

Volume 3:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/441881

Volume 4:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/452173

Volume 5:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/484130

*XERO* · 08-18-2009, 08:20 PM

Sadly, TMB, I'm still trying to get the joke in your sig.

**GK Punk** · 08-18-2009, 08:28 PM

Yeah I've been wondering that too

*Ninjinister* · 08-18-2009, 08:32 PM

The only thing I can figure is that Sally was made by Americans and the others had their origins in Japan. If that isn't it... I've got nothing.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 08-18-2009, 10:53 PM

True, but they know because of the boobs.

Actually, I took it from those flash movies.

07-22-2009, 12:47 AM	#61
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	Sonic Riders was such a waste in so many ways -- worst, because Sega used the F-Zero GX engine on that abortion. Tragic. The textures were PS1 quality. __________________

08-10-2009, 08:27 PM	#65
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	But you're a retard who only pays attention to your asian girlfriend, Jackie Chan. Of course you wouldn't know anything. __________________ Stupendous Monster

08-10-2009, 09:11 PM	#67
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	You win this round, buddy. __________________ Stupendous Monster

08-10-2009, 09:39 PM	#68
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,511	I've never stopped playing that old 16-bit goodness! Oh, and the Sonic Adventure games for Dreamcast continue to keep me happy. I also collected Sonic Archie comics without fail up until about issue 52. I have noticed that series is notoriously hard to track down in comic stores. Anyone else have that experience? __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

08-10-2009, 10:19 PM	#69
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	As I sit here typing this, watching my neices and nephews play through the 2-player mode of Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, I can't help but smile. Even if they do fall off the cliffs every time. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

08-10-2009, 11:30 AM	#62
Samhain Dare To Be Stupid! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 1313 Mockingbird Lane Posts: 4,752	Sonic on the 360 blows! I was so excited about it, spent $60 and got home only to find the controls were horrible. Game is very pretty tho.

08-10-2009, 12:26 PM	#63
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Which Sonic game? Just Sonic the Hedgehog or Sonic Unleashed? Where do you live that either game is still $60? Sonic Next-Gen is $10 everywhere, and it's even going to be up on the 360 for download in about a week for $19.99.

08-10-2009, 08:21 PM	#64
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	I thought Sonic was over and done with. Like, forever.

08-10-2009, 08:31 PM	#66
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	Sounds like jealousy, my good friend. <3

08-10-2009, 10:31 PM	#70
Cipher Foot Elite Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,454	So...does anyone else hold the opinion that Sonic Heroes would've been a good game (and the last good 3D Sonic game) if they had just removed the damn robot fights?

08-10-2009, 10:45 PM	#71
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	Yeah, they dragged on a bit too much, especially the Egg Albatross. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

08-10-2009, 11:59 PM	#73
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	Oh, my bad. You're right on that, though. I miss the one hit jumps, too. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

08-18-2009, 08:14 PM	#76
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	Well, yeah. There's no arguing that Super Mario World is the greatest thing since BBQ Baked Pizza. Sonic is really only worth a laugh now, so on that note... Here's a series of five flash movies from Newgrounds. Its essentially a ripoff of Robot Chicken done Sonic style. Bear in mind, you're only going to get some of the jokes if you're a Sonic fan, but most of them don't go beyond the realm of casual knowledge. I lol'd until it hurt. Volume 1: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/427405 Volume 2: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/436074 Volume 3: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/441881 Volume 4: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/452173 Volume 5: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/484130 __________________

08-18-2009, 08:20 PM	#77
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	Sadly, TMB, I'm still trying to get the joke in your sig. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

08-18-2009, 08:28 PM	#78
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	Yeah I've been wondering that too

08-18-2009, 08:32 PM	#79
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	The only thing I can figure is that Sally was made by Americans and the others had their origins in Japan. If that isn't it... I've got nothing. __________________

08-18-2009, 10:53 PM	#80
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	True, but they know because of the boobs. Actually, I took it from those flash movies. __________________