G.I Joe: The Rise of Cobra discussion (Please use Spoiler tags) - Page 7

**GK Punk** · 08-10-2009, 05:28 PM

Just wearing white and a Ninja Mask. The rest of the costume was completely different. Snake Eyes was closer, he was based on the V2 Snake Eyes, they just gave him pants and had his mouth showing.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 08-10-2009, 06:10 PM

so to get away from how they looked, overall what did you think of the movies representation of the characters?

**GK Punk** · 08-10-2009, 06:33 PM

I think they were pretty good, considering how much change they brought to the table with them. Hawk and Snake Eyes were probably the closest to the comics (And toon also most likely) Storm Shadow and Destro were also pretty much spot on. Zartan had a huge change to his character, but I ended up liking it to my surprise. Baroness for obvious reasons was VERY different, but by the end of the movie I liked what they did. Just took me some time to get used to it.

Ripcord, Heavy Duty, Scarlet and Breaker were all close but still a little off to what I expect of them. Breaker eating the gum and blowing a bubble killed me. Little references like that to the comics made me smile.

Newton Gimmick · 08-10-2009, 06:49 PM

Not trying to argue, but I don't think there was much change to Zartan's character actually. He was a ruthless master of disguise. Now in terms of looks, yeah he looked a lot different. Granted he didn't lead the Dreadnoks or anything (that we know of) but I thought he was played pretty faithful actually. Zartan is really nothing like the rest of the Dreadnoks even though he leads them. There's even a hint of tension between him and Storm Shadow which of course, is a big comic plot device. I've heard that there may be some cuts done that reveal they stayed pretty close to the comics with that but didn't end up in the final.

I didn't care for the Baroness plot device (just the end half part not necessarily the relationships) but I thought she was played decent enough.

As I said in my review of the movie, GI Joe I feel has always been a lot about interpretation of the characters, not necessarily one set canon. The interpretations were different but good.

I really dug how awesome the Vipers were. Some incredible scenes with them in the movie.

Channing Tatum was pretty terrible I thought though. Like, it was excusable because the movie had so much good fun action going on, but he had the acting chops of a fan film.

And yeah, Fraiser was Sgt. Stone.

*Brodie* · 08-10-2009, 06:54 PM

Best actor in the movie? Ray Park.

**GK Punk** · 08-10-2009, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Newton Gimmick

Not trying to argue, but I don't think there was much change to Zartan's character actually. He was a ruthless master of disguise. Now in terms of looks, yeah he looked a lot different. Granted he didn't lead the Dreadnoks or anything (that we know of) but I thought he was played pretty faithful actually. Zartan is really nothing like the rest of the Dreadnoks even though he leads them. There's even a hint of tension between him and Storm Shadow which of course, is a big comic plot device. I've heard that there may be some cuts done that reveal they stayed pretty close to the comics with that but didn't end up in the final.

No worries at all with that. he just didn't seem to have that tough biker vibe that I kind of think of Zartan. And yeah I caught the Zartan/Storm tension, that was pretty cool. I was disappointed that he seemed to be cut out of the history of Arashikage clan. I actually really did enjoy him in this movie.

Newton Gimmick · 08-11-2009, 11:42 AM

THIS needs to be seen: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/076...lad-of-g-i-joe

*Raph's Girl* · 08-11-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Newton Gimmick

THIS needs to be seen: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/076...lad-of-g-i-joe

Sgt. Slaughter!!!

That was awesome!!

**GK Punk** · 08-11-2009, 01:47 PM

Was that Henry Rollins as Duke?

SassyGal · 08-11-2009, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Newton Gimmick

THIS needs to be seen: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/076...lad-of-g-i-joe

That was hilarious!

**Jester** · 08-11-2009, 04:24 PM

That was great....and I'm not even really a big fan of GI Joe.

~~Dan~~ · 08-15-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

And the reason for Cobra Commander's mask was cuz they thought the original looked too much like a KKK mask. *lol*

What they didn't want to offend the KKK?

Canadian Turtle · 08-15-2009, 10:44 PM

So just got back from this today. I literally based my decision to see this movie over district 9 tonight because people on here seemed to like the GI Joe movie....

I have to say it was mildly entertaining and it might be social suicide but i thought Transformers one and two were way better as far as cartoon movies go. I thought it was very predictable and poorly shot and composed as a movie as to be expected but they could have done way better either way.

I have to admit I never really watched the show as a kid, but have since and understand the basic story structure and cultural phenomenon. However from a Joe fan perspective what in this movie paid proper homage to the old cartoon? Were the ships direct references? did they get some of the weapons right? what were some of the throw backs? I love those things and want to know.

I am all for a new take on old stories but man it would be cool if they actually did a live action version of the cartoon as best they could. Make the characters look and act like the cartoon, make the world they live in their own. I am tired of these throw back movies that try to fit these stories into todays world, its stupid. This is probably another reason why the Batman movies did so well, they supported the source material better. I don't know just a thought.

*Warhorse* · 08-16-2009, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Canadian Turtle

So just got back from this today. I literally based my decision to see this movie over district 9 tonight because people on here seemed to like the GI Joe movie....

I have to say it was mildly entertaining and it might be social suicide but i thought Transformers one and two were way better as far as cartoon movies go. I thought it was very predictable and poorly shot and composed as a movie as to be expected but they could have done way better either way.

I have to admit I never really watched the show as a kid, but have since and understand the basic story structure and cultural phenomenon. However from a Joe fan perspective what in this movie paid proper homage to the old cartoon? Were the ships direct references? did they get some of the weapons right? what were some of the throw backs? I love those things and want to know.

I am all for a new take on old stories but man it would be cool if they actually did a live action version of the cartoon as best they could. Make the characters look and act like the cartoon, make the world they live in their own. I am tired of these throw back movies that try to fit these stories into todays world, its stupid. This is probably another reason why the Batman movies did so well, they supported the source material better. I don't know just a thought.

So, how did you like Snake Eyes? He's stunted by Ray Park (he did Darth Maul in Star Wars 1, TPM, Toad in X-Men 1, The Headless Horseman in Sleepy Hollow) How do you think he'd do as Leo's stunt double if the new TMNT movie is going to live action again?

Canadian Turtle · 08-16-2009, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse

So, how did you like Snake Eyes? He's stunted by Ray Park (he did Darth Maul in Star Wars 1, TPM, Toad in X-Men 1, The Headless Horseman in Sleepy Hollow) How do you think he'd do as Leo's stunt double if the new TMNT movie is going to live action again?

Well to be honest I didn't really think much on him, I couldn't get past his stupid lips. I think they dropped the ball on look in this movie big time. The costumes in general were overall lame and predictable. Even in the very first scene in the flashback it felt WAYYYY over produced and silly.

I think that Snake Eyes was to big, I didn't feel his stealth at all, and in which case don't think he was an amazing suit performer. To clumsy in my opinion. Overall... meh.

*Warhorse* · 08-16-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Canadian Turtle

Well to be honest I didn't really think much on him, I couldn't get past his stupid lips. I think they dropped the ball on look in this movie big time. The costumes in general were overall lame and predictable. Even in the very first scene in the flashback it felt WAYYYY over produced and silly.

I think that Snake Eyes was to big, I didn't feel his stealth at all, and in which case don't think he was an amazing suit performer. To clumsy in my opinion. Overall... meh.

How was he clumbsy? Did you not notice the pretty good swordsmanship in the movie?

*The Stryker* · 08-16-2009, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Canadian Turtle

Well to be honest I didn't really think much on him, I couldn't get past his stupid lips. I think they dropped the ball on look in this movie big time. The costumes in general were overall lame and predictable.

How can a costume be predictable?

*Anarky* · 08-16-2009, 08:30 PM

In the sense that you can say things like:

"Snake Eyes will wear black!"
"Cobra Commander will wear a mask!"
"Destro will have a metal head!"
"The Joes will wear military uniforms or variants thereof!"

Predictable! My God, how could they! I am offended that Snake Eyes did not wear a tutu and moon boots. This movie sucks!

Canadian Turtle · 08-16-2009, 08:47 PM

Actually not at all! Dude I think the unique thing would be to uphold the source material and make it good! They are all wearing silly 'future war' black armor suits very over produced and boring looking. Not at all badass or unique. If someone told me they were going to make a futuristic war movie with super soldiers I could have painted you a picture of those suits and said this is the written by committee crap they will come up with.

Sorry, I just think this was not a great fan service and I'm not even a true Joe's fan.

**GK Punk** · 08-16-2009, 08:53 PM

Well I am a big Joe fan, and I disagree with you completely. It told a good Joe story, much better than the original cartoon ever did.

Would you have prefered they had a section in the movie where Destro did a stand up routine to raise money for Cobra like they did in the cartoon?

Feel free to not like the movie, but don't say it's not a good Joe movie in the same sentence as "Im not a true fan."

08-10-2009, 06:10 PM	#122
TheCanadiandrome Big, Bad & Bold Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Inside the Technodrome; Shredderville; Saskatchewan Posts: 19,719	so to get away from how they looked, overall what did you think of the movies representation of the characters? __________________ Add me: PSN/XBL; Nintendo Network ID: BDS-3.1.6; Switch FC: SW-3378-5206-8020 TMNT Fan Club: http://sot.ag/4jZR0 Visit My Wish List: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=30904 My Collection: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=40276

08-10-2009, 06:54 PM	#125
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08-11-2009, 04:24 PM	#131
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	That was great....and I'm not even really a big fan of GI Joe. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

08-15-2009, 10:44 PM	#133
Canadian Turtle Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Small town Ontario, West of Toronto Posts: 1,257	So just got back from this today. I literally based my decision to see this movie over district 9 tonight because people on here seemed to like the GI Joe movie.... I have to say it was mildly entertaining and it might be social suicide but i thought Transformers one and two were way better as far as cartoon movies go. I thought it was very predictable and poorly shot and composed as a movie as to be expected but they could have done way better either way. I have to admit I never really watched the show as a kid, but have since and understand the basic story structure and cultural phenomenon. However from a Joe fan perspective what in this movie paid proper homage to the old cartoon? Were the ships direct references? did they get some of the weapons right? what were some of the throw backs? I love those things and want to know. I am all for a new take on old stories but man it would be cool if they actually did a live action version of the cartoon as best they could. Make the characters look and act like the cartoon, make the world they live in their own. I am tired of these throw back movies that try to fit these stories into todays world, its stupid. This is probably another reason why the Batman movies did so well, they supported the source material better. I don't know just a thought. __________________ The Doc: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Turtl..._type=bookmark Business: www.iproductionsonline.com

08-16-2009, 08:30 PM	#138
Anarky Outlaw Hero Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tannhauser Gate Posts: 4,867	In the sense that you can say things like: "Snake Eyes will wear black!" "Cobra Commander will wear a mask!" "Destro will have a metal head!" "The Joes will wear military uniforms or variants thereof!" Predictable! My God, how could they! I am offended that Snake Eyes did not wear a tutu and moon boots. This movie sucks! __________________ Because it's... I dunno... brutal.

08-10-2009, 05:28 PM	#121
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	Just wearing white and a Ninja Mask. The rest of the costume was completely different. Snake Eyes was closer, he was based on the V2 Snake Eyes, they just gave him pants and had his mouth showing.

08-10-2009, 06:33 PM	#123
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	I think they were pretty good, considering how much change they brought to the table with them. Hawk and Snake Eyes were probably the closest to the comics (And toon also most likely) Storm Shadow and Destro were also pretty much spot on. Zartan had a huge change to his character, but I ended up liking it to my surprise. Baroness for obvious reasons was VERY different, but by the end of the movie I liked what they did. Just took me some time to get used to it. Ripcord, Heavy Duty, Scarlet and Breaker were all close but still a little off to what I expect of them. Breaker eating the gum and blowing a bubble killed me. Little references like that to the comics made me smile.

08-10-2009, 06:49 PM	#124
Newton Gimmick Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,154	Not trying to argue, but I don't think there was much change to Zartan's character actually. He was a ruthless master of disguise. Now in terms of looks, yeah he looked a lot different. Granted he didn't lead the Dreadnoks or anything (that we know of) but I thought he was played pretty faithful actually. Zartan is really nothing like the rest of the Dreadnoks even though he leads them. There's even a hint of tension between him and Storm Shadow which of course, is a big comic plot device. I've heard that there may be some cuts done that reveal they stayed pretty close to the comics with that but didn't end up in the final. I didn't care for the Baroness plot device (just the end half part not necessarily the relationships) but I thought she was played decent enough. As I said in my review of the movie, GI Joe I feel has always been a lot about interpretation of the characters, not necessarily one set canon. The interpretations were different but good. I really dug how awesome the Vipers were. Some incredible scenes with them in the movie. Channing Tatum was pretty terrible I thought though. Like, it was excusable because the movie had so much good fun action going on, but he had the acting chops of a fan film. And yeah, Fraiser was Sgt. Stone.

08-11-2009, 11:42 AM	#127
Newton Gimmick Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,154	THIS needs to be seen: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/076...lad-of-g-i-joe

08-11-2009, 01:47 PM	#129
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	Was that Henry Rollins as Duke?

08-16-2009, 08:47 PM	#139
Canadian Turtle Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Small town Ontario, West of Toronto Posts: 1,257	Actually not at all! Dude I think the unique thing would be to uphold the source material and make it good! They are all wearing silly 'future war' black armor suits very over produced and boring looking. Not at all badass or unique. If someone told me they were going to make a futuristic war movie with super soldiers I could have painted you a picture of those suits and said this is the written by committee crap they will come up with. Sorry, I just think this was not a great fan service and I'm not even a true Joe's fan. __________________ The Doc: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Turtl..._type=bookmark Business: www.iproductionsonline.com

08-16-2009, 08:53 PM	#140
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	Well I am a big Joe fan, and I disagree with you completely. It told a good Joe story, much better than the original cartoon ever did. Would you have prefered they had a section in the movie where Destro did a stand up routine to raise money for Cobra like they did in the cartoon? Feel free to not like the movie, but don't say it's not a good Joe movie in the same sentence as "Im not a true fan."