Fantastic Four reboot

*Raph's Girl* · 09-01-2009, 01:57 PM

http://weblogs.variety.com/bfdealmem...stic-four.html

Some have questioned whether Disney overpaid when it bought Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion. After all, its best known Marvel Comics superhero franchises are parked at other studios, and Universal's Islands of Adventure is as dominated by Marvel attractions as it is Dr. Seuss.

But one thing to remember about Marvel assets is, they don't seem to wear out. We're about to see the second example where successful Marvel movie franchises are going to be reinvented.

20th Century Fox is the latest studio to start the process of overhauling one of its big Marvel Entertainment franchises, “Fantastic Four,” which has already hatched two films. The studio has hired Akiva Goldsman to oversee the re-boot as producer.

New script will be written by Michael Green, the “Heroes” co-executive producer who co-wrote “Green Lantern,” the Martin Campbell-directed Warner Bros. film that will star Ryan Reynolds.

Fox would not comment on its plans, and neither would Columbia Pictures when BFD revealed a couple weeks its plan to potentially re-boot the studio's most valuable franchise, "Spider-Man."

With “Spider-Man 4” moving toward an early 2010 production start, the studio recently hired James Vanderbilt to write a fifth and sixth installment of the web-slinger franchise, with the understanding that one or both could give that franchise a makeover with a new director and cast (Daily Variety, Aug. 16, 2009). Whether director Sam Raimi and Tobey Maguire return or not, Sony smartly has given itself the chance to shorten the gap between its superhero installments.

And with state-of-the-art visual effects on superhero franchises pushing these pictures toward the $250 million-$300 million range, reshuffling the creative cast gives the studio a chance to save money, since actors and directors usually have a pre-negotiated option or two before the studio is held over a barrell by talent and their reps.

Marvel Studios has eliminated that problem by making talent sign as many as nine options, which was the case with the supporting cast of "Iron Man 2."

The 2005 “Fantastic Four” and 2007 sequel “Rise of the Silver Surfer” were directed by Tim Story, and starred Ioan Gruffud, Jessica Alba, Chris Evans and Michael Chiklis. Since the deals are just getting made, it is unclear at present if any of them will return.

Though Marvel Entertainment owns and finances properties like “Iron Man” and “Thor,” Fox controls “Fantastic Four” in perpetuity—as long as it continues making the films. Fox has the same arrangement on Marvel Comics properties “X-Men,” “Daredevil,” and “Silver Surfer” --which, despite an appearance in the "Fantastic Four" sequel, is still a Fox priority for a solo film.

Marvel is a producer and financial participant through a licensing agreement signed before Marvel franchises had the drawing power they have now. In fact, the original deal was made back when Marvel was struggling to pull itself out of bankruptcy in 1997.

Fox has been extraordarily effective in mining its Marvel franchises. The studio made three “X-Men” films, and then a hit summer spinoff in “Wolverine.” Fox is working on a sequel to that film, and has scripts for “X-Men Origins: Magneto," and “X-Men Origins: First Class," the latter of which could bring original "X-Men" helmer Bryan Singer back to the fold. Potential spinoffs for the Gambit and Deadpool characters seen in "Wolverine" have also been discussed.

As producer, Goldsman is involved with several DC Comics transfers, including “Jonah Hex,” “The Losers” and “Teen Titans.” He was also producer on the Will Smith-Charlize Theron-superhero film “Hancock,” a film that has a sequel in development.

*The Stryker* · 09-01-2009, 02:45 PM

I liked the first 2 F4 movies.

The franchise they NEED to reboot is X-men.

*ZariusTwo* · 09-01-2009, 03:12 PM

Reboot Spider-Man. Raimi never got it f*cking right.

Hordak · 09-01-2009, 08:08 PM

I was a little iffy on the first FF4 movies. Thing was cool, Torch was ok but Doom could have een better. The costume was nice & he was better in the 2nd than the 1st. I thought the Silver Surfer was bas ass but what they done with Galactus was an abomination!

*Brodie* · 09-01-2009, 09:15 PM

I agree with Zarius. Spider-Man 2 was close. But was pretty meh.

*The Stryker* · 09-02-2009, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Hordak

I was a little iffy on the first FF4 movies. Thing was cool, Torch was ok but Doom could have een better. The costume was nice & he was better in the 2nd than the 1st. I thought the Silver Surfer was bas ass but what they done with Galactus was an abomination!

He ate planets. What exactly did they ruin?

Please don't say you wanted a giant purple monster to show up.

*R-iZZy* · 09-02-2009, 02:42 PM

Well, it could've been better than a stupid f***ing cloud. Lost already had that covered anyway.

Hopefully, things will turn out for the better with this reboot. I always thought the Fantastic Four movies were a little too slapstick for my liking. They weren't cover-your-eyes terrible, but they weren't really that good either. Dr. Doom wasn't properly presented as the threat he should be.

*The Stryker* · 09-02-2009, 02:44 PM

No. A giant purple monster is not better than a cloud.

*R-iZZy* · 09-02-2009, 02:47 PM

Well, considering a giant, purple monster would better represent Galactus than a cloud; yes, it is better.

And I don't get why you'd pull a giant, purple monster out the hat to begin with, seeing as that's not what Galactus even appears as.

*The Stryker* · 09-02-2009, 02:55 PM

Looks purple to me.

*R-iZZy* · 09-02-2009, 03:20 PM

Well, he does look giant and purple. Appears as more of a humanoid though, no?

*The Stryker* · 09-02-2009, 03:24 PM

He eats planets. That's pretty monstrous.

*XERO* · 09-02-2009, 03:46 PM

I like the fact that Antartica is closest to the grill. That explains the global warming.

Hordak · 09-02-2009, 11:27 PM

Yes that is the Galactus I wanted to see! Thats the way he has always been! All we got was the shadow of his helmet & a dumb*** cloud! That sucked!

*odupianist* · 09-03-2009, 07:38 AM

Agreed, stupid cloud = epic fail.

*The Stryker* · 09-03-2009, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hordak

Yes that is the Galactus I wanted to see! Thats the way he has always been! All we got was the shadow of his helmet & a dumb*** cloud! That sucked!

You wanted a giant purple alien monster thing to just show up at the end of the movie. You know how STUPID that would've been?

The cloud was stupid, for sure, but no where near as stupid as a giant purple thing that rides a space scooter would've been.

Some things have to be changed for movies because not everything that's on a page works in motion.

*Brodie* · 09-03-2009, 02:04 PM

Bipedal Galactus showing up would have been as ridiculous as a giant tentacle alien showing up at the end of the Watchmen movie...

Hordak · 09-04-2009, 02:29 AM

Every time Galcatus has ever been shown thats the way he has looked. I think he looks bad***! Ooh a storm cloud scary! Man was my Uncle p'oed cause he is a big comic guy & loves Galactus! It was just a huge let down for comic buffs. I can understand a little redesign but they even teased us with the shadow of his helmet! And why would it have been dumb? All the other characters looked like they looked in the comcis? So FF comic fans would want to see comic Galactus.

*The Stryker* · 09-04-2009, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hordak

Every time Galcatus has ever been shown thats the way he has looked. I think he looks bad***! Ooh a storm cloud scary! Man was my Uncle p'oed cause he is a big comic guy & loves Galactus! It was just a huge let down for comic buffs. I can understand a little redesign but they even teased us with the shadow of his helmet! And why would it have been dumb? All the other characters looked like they looked in the comcis? So FF comic fans would want to see comic Galactus.

Yeah but the rest of the world would be laughing at the GIANT PURPLE GUY IN A RE-RE HELMET. Galactus is one of the stupidest looking villains of all time.

Blade wore green in the comics, they should've kept that too, right?

Hordak · 09-04-2009, 07:54 AM

The way Blade looked in the movies was the way he had looked in the comics & toons for some time, black & leather. Seriously though to a least see Galactus more than the shadow of his helmet would have been better. Hell anything would have been better than a cloud!

09-01-2009, 01:57 PM	#1
Raph's Girl Dierna Soul, Reporter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jakku Posts: 10,831	Fantastic Four reboot http://weblogs.variety.com/bfdealmem...stic-four.html Some have questioned whether Disney overpaid when it bought Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion. After all, its best known Marvel Comics superhero franchises are parked at other studios, and Universal's Islands of Adventure is as dominated by Marvel attractions as it is Dr. Seuss. But one thing to remember about Marvel assets is, they don't seem to wear out. We're about to see the second example where successful Marvel movie franchises are going to be reinvented. 20th Century Fox is the latest studio to start the process of overhauling one of its big Marvel Entertainment franchises, “Fantastic Four,” which has already hatched two films. The studio has hired Akiva Goldsman to oversee the re-boot as producer. New script will be written by Michael Green, the “Heroes” co-executive producer who co-wrote “Green Lantern,” the Martin Campbell-directed Warner Bros. film that will star Ryan Reynolds. Fox would not comment on its plans, and neither would Columbia Pictures when BFD revealed a couple weeks its plan to potentially re-boot the studio's most valuable franchise, "Spider-Man." With “Spider-Man 4” moving toward an early 2010 production start, the studio recently hired James Vanderbilt to write a fifth and sixth installment of the web-slinger franchise, with the understanding that one or both could give that franchise a makeover with a new director and cast (Daily Variety, Aug. 16, 2009). Whether director Sam Raimi and Tobey Maguire return or not, Sony smartly has given itself the chance to shorten the gap between its superhero installments. And with state-of-the-art visual effects on superhero franchises pushing these pictures toward the $250 million-$300 million range, reshuffling the creative cast gives the studio a chance to save money, since actors and directors usually have a pre-negotiated option or two before the studio is held over a barrell by talent and their reps. Marvel Studios has eliminated that problem by making talent sign as many as nine options, which was the case with the supporting cast of "Iron Man 2." The 2005 “Fantastic Four” and 2007 sequel “Rise of the Silver Surfer” were directed by Tim Story, and starred Ioan Gruffud, Jessica Alba, Chris Evans and Michael Chiklis. Since the deals are just getting made, it is unclear at present if any of them will return. Though Marvel Entertainment owns and finances properties like “Iron Man” and “Thor,” Fox controls “Fantastic Four” in perpetuity—as long as it continues making the films. Fox has the same arrangement on Marvel Comics properties “X-Men,” “Daredevil,” and “Silver Surfer” --which, despite an appearance in the "Fantastic Four" sequel, is still a Fox priority for a solo film. Marvel is a producer and financial participant through a licensing agreement signed before Marvel franchises had the drawing power they have now. In fact, the original deal was made back when Marvel was struggling to pull itself out of bankruptcy in 1997. Fox has been extraordarily effective in mining its Marvel franchises. The studio made three “X-Men” films, and then a hit summer spinoff in “Wolverine.” Fox is working on a sequel to that film, and has scripts for “X-Men Origins: Magneto," and “X-Men Origins: First Class," the latter of which could bring original "X-Men" helmer Bryan Singer back to the fold. Potential spinoffs for the Gambit and Deadpool characters seen in "Wolverine" have also been discussed. As producer, Goldsman is involved with several DC Comics transfers, including “Jonah Hex,” “The Losers” and “Teen Titans.” He was also producer on the Will Smith-Charlize Theron-superhero film “Hancock,” a film that has a sequel in development. __________________

09-01-2009, 02:45 PM	#2
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	I liked the first 2 F4 movies. The franchise they NEED to reboot is X-men. __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

09-01-2009, 03:12 PM	#3
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,494	Reboot Spider-Man. Raimi never got it fcking right. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue* Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

09-01-2009, 09:15 PM	#5
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	I agree with Zarius. Spider-Man 2 was close. But was pretty meh. __________________ Stupendous Monster

09-02-2009, 02:42 PM	#7
R-iZZy The Long Con Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: G'ville, FL (Gator Country), USA Posts: 3,007	Well, it could've been better than a stupid f***ing cloud. Lost already had that covered anyway. Hopefully, things will turn out for the better with this reboot. I always thought the Fantastic Four movies were a little too slapstick for my liking. They weren't cover-your-eyes terrible, but they weren't really that good either. Dr. Doom wasn't properly presented as the threat he should be. __________________

09-01-2009, 08:08 PM	#4
Hordak Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: VA Posts: 174	I was a little iffy on the first FF4 movies. Thing was cool, Torch was ok but Doom could have een better. The costume was nice & he was better in the 2nd than the 1st. I thought the Silver Surfer was bas ass but what they done with Galactus was an abomination!

09-02-2009, 02:44 PM	#8
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	No. A giant purple monster is not better than a cloud. __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

09-02-2009, 02:47 PM	#9
R-iZZy The Long Con Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: G'ville, FL (Gator Country), USA Posts: 3,007	Well, considering a giant, purple monster would better represent Galactus than a cloud; yes, it is better. And I don't get why you'd pull a giant, purple monster out the hat to begin with, seeing as that's not what Galactus even appears as. __________________

09-02-2009, 02:55 PM	#10
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	Looks purple to me. __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

09-02-2009, 03:20 PM	#11
R-iZZy The Long Con Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: G'ville, FL (Gator Country), USA Posts: 3,007	Well, he does look giant and purple. Appears as more of a humanoid though, no? __________________

09-02-2009, 03:24 PM	#12
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	He eats planets. That's pretty monstrous. __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

09-02-2009, 03:46 PM	#13
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	I like the fact that Antartica is closest to the grill. That explains the global warming. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

09-02-2009, 11:27 PM	#14
Hordak Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: VA Posts: 174	Yes that is the Galactus I wanted to see! Thats the way he has always been! All we got was the shadow of his helmet & a dumb*** cloud! That sucked!

09-03-2009, 07:38 AM	#15
odupianist Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,744	Agreed, stupid cloud = epic fail.

09-03-2009, 02:04 PM	#17
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	Bipedal Galactus showing up would have been as ridiculous as a giant tentacle alien showing up at the end of the Watchmen movie... __________________ Stupendous Monster

09-04-2009, 02:29 AM	#18
Hordak Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: VA Posts: 174	Every time Galcatus has ever been shown thats the way he has looked. I think he looks bad***! Ooh a storm cloud scary! Man was my Uncle p'oed cause he is a big comic guy & loves Galactus! It was just a huge let down for comic buffs. I can understand a little redesign but they even teased us with the shadow of his helmet! And why would it have been dumb? All the other characters looked like they looked in the comcis? So FF comic fans would want to see comic Galactus.

09-04-2009, 07:54 AM	#20
Hordak Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: VA Posts: 174	The way Blade looked in the movies was the way he had looked in the comics & toons for some time, black & leather. Seriously though to a least see Galactus more than the shadow of his helmet would have been better. Hell anything would have been better than a cloud!