Potential positives from the buyout.

X · 10-21-2009, 02:18 PM

Okay, I may go off-path here, stating what I think will happen, but bear with me.

When I think of the buyout from Nick, I think of a few positives.

1. Spongebob is a good cartoon and I am about to be 31... It has adult humor in there, so that can't be a bad thing for Turtles humor... Possibly even blending slapstick humor like the OT, with number 2.

2. Avatar is a very adult oriented program at times. Can be very dark, while not going overboard. This means we could see some incredible action from the new TMNT show. Blend the action from the 2K3 series, with the slapstick of the OT, and you got the makings of what could be an excellent cartoon.

Now when I think of the buyout even more, I think of what happens if they get permission or the rights to the Fred Wolf characters (ie Slash, Bebop, Rocksteady, Krang, etc.)

What if Nick saw Turtles Forever, and wanted to remake the old show, but with more action? Seeing that clip of Turtles Forever even got me thinking of how I would like to see the old toon again, redone with better animation, new stories, but with more action.

I mean who knows.

Imagine if they got the best of all worlds. Action of 2K3 and some characters from 2K3 (Bishop please, Hun, Touch and Go, etc,) with the humor and characters of the OT (Krang, Slash, Dirtbag, Groundchuck, etc,) and even put spins on characters from the comics, which you guys would know more about.

I mean things could be good, but only time will tell.

I also imagine Paramount releasing the 2k3 series, since they now have the rights to TMNT in full. This is a guess, but if they did, hopefully we will see a re-release of all seasons, or just season 3,4, BttS, and Turtles Forever.

I just hope that somehow those make it out on DVD, and if not, I will be saddened.

Above all, I just hope that showing of Turtles Forever at least makes it to TV, so I can DVR it, like I did BttS, and put them on VHS, which is better than not having them at all.

*CyberCubed* · 10-21-2009, 02:22 PM

Its also obvious that now old toon characters like Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady are no longer off-limits.

Now that Peter has no say in the matter, Nick could potentially bring back many of the characters from the original series. This new show could very well be a re-imagining of many characters and mutants from the old toon universe.

Dragon Turtle · 10-21-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by X

Now when I think of the buyout even more, I think of what happens if they get permission or the rights to the Fred Wolf characters (ie Slash, Bebop, Rocksteady, Krang, etc.)

Since Mirage owns the rights to those characters, I'm sure those rights have transferred over to Nick as well.

*Andrew NDB* · 10-21-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Its also obvious that now old toon characters like Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady are no longer off-limits.

Now that Peter has no say in the matter, Nick could potentially bring back many of the characters from the original series. This new show could very well be a re-imagining of many characters and mutants from the old toon universe.

Does anyone have a punching bag they can FedEx to my door? A big one? I'll pay the shipping.

Dragon Turtle · 10-21-2009, 02:57 PM

I personally hope Nick keeps the tone of the 2k3 cartoon as that version is the most recognizable with today's kids, and such shows as X-Men and Avatar prove they're not all about slapstick kiddie fare. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing updated versions of a few OT characters, however.

Nelson · 10-21-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Does anyone have a punching bag they can FedEx to my door? A big one? I'll pay the shipping.

LOL. I don't know, man. I kind of think that if we're not going to get a mature TMNT, then the next best thing is to go to the other extreme, embrace completely the ridiculous concepts of the old toon.

Bah, I'm still confused about all this.

*CyberCubed* · 10-21-2009, 08:12 PM

Peter basically implied on his blog that its possible many of the original cartoon characters and mutants would make their return.

I had a feeling this would happen.

*sdp* · 10-21-2009, 08:16 PM

And the return of Venus!

Its obvious old stuff will come back again like mutants and what not.

The biggest pro is 4kids wasn't going to make any new tv show for a quite a while and now we have one confirmed for 2012.

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 10-21-2009, 08:45 PM

Really the only downside I see is the future of the comic books. I would have preferred to see Disney or WB buy the turtles, that way maybe we'd see comic releases through Marvel or DC.

Other than that though, someone else buying the TMNT means someone else is interested enough for there to be a possible future.

BoggleKng · 10-21-2009, 09:24 PM

The comic books were the real art behind the Turtles. The art and beauty of the story in comics can never be appreciated on TV...

*Cipher* · 10-21-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BoggleKng

The comic books were the real art behind the Turtles. The art and beauty of the story in comics can never be appreciated on TV...

This times 100.

Seriously, Nick will probably do a decent job with a more light-hearted (or maybe even dark) cartoon. I certainly have no reason to believe it would be any better or worse than the 4Kids cartoon. If you loved the cartoons above everything else, you have every reason to celebrate right now.

But for comic book fans, the only real positive from the buyout is the possibility of a larger company getting more TPBs of the old material out there. And that chance is ... slim, at least for now.

*Coola Yagami* · 10-21-2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BoggleKng

The comic books were the real art behind the Turtles. The art and beauty of the story in comics can never be appreciated on TV...

You mean like Lawson's recent stuff?

*Cipher* · 10-21-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by coola yagami

you mean like lawson's recent stuff?

yeah i r haet teh blockiness cuz its not dark and rillistic rah.

METALHEAD · 10-21-2009, 09:55 PM

i'm been positive and whole day since i heard the news.

John Pannozzi · 10-21-2009, 10:03 PM

The most I'm hoping for is a conclusion to Vol. 4 and some TPBs.

audman · 10-22-2009, 07:50 PM

Don't know with the suggestion too bad disney did not pick up tmnt to publish. Got me thinking what is to stop Disney from buying Nickelodeon. We have so far seen some insane changes in almost the span of a summer. Disney and Marvel. Now this. Could happen in the next 10 years if things keep going crazy town like they have been.

sorry on total sleep depravation. grammar is poor right now.

*Raph's Girl* · 10-22-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by John Pannozzi

The most I'm hoping for is a conclusion to Vol. 4 and some TPBs.

That'll be a negative on TPB's. Mirage can't release any new TPB's and can now only release books that aren't bigger than like 48 pages.

*Kendamu* · 10-22-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by John Pannozzi

The most I'm hoping for is a conclusion to Vol. 4 and some TPBs.

Well, we're not getting TPBs, but we are getting at least a few more comics between now and next May.

Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle · 10-22-2009, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by audman

Don't know with the suggestion too bad disney did not pick up tmnt to publish. Got me thinking what is to stop Disney from buying Nickelodeon. We have so far seen some insane changes in almost the span of a summer. Disney and Marvel. Now this. Could happen in the next 10 years if things keep going crazy town like they have been.

sorry on total sleep depravation. grammar is poor right now.

Eventually, I can see Disney buying out Nick. I'm honestly kinda surprised Disney didn't swoop in and buy the TMNT property.

BoggleKng · 10-22-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

You mean like Lawson's recent stuff?

No, I mean, like Return to New York and City at War...

10-21-2009, 02:18 PM	#1
X Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 767	Potential positives from the buyout. Okay, I may go off-path here, stating what I think will happen, but bear with me. When I think of the buyout from Nick, I think of a few positives. 1. Spongebob is a good cartoon and I am about to be 31... It has adult humor in there, so that can't be a bad thing for Turtles humor... Possibly even blending slapstick humor like the OT, with number 2. 2. Avatar is a very adult oriented program at times. Can be very dark, while not going overboard. This means we could see some incredible action from the new TMNT show. Blend the action from the 2K3 series, with the slapstick of the OT, and you got the makings of what could be an excellent cartoon. Now when I think of the buyout even more, I think of what happens if they get permission or the rights to the Fred Wolf characters (ie Slash, Bebop, Rocksteady, Krang, etc.) What if Nick saw Turtles Forever, and wanted to remake the old show, but with more action? Seeing that clip of Turtles Forever even got me thinking of how I would like to see the old toon again, redone with better animation, new stories, but with more action. I mean who knows. Imagine if they got the best of all worlds. Action of 2K3 and some characters from 2K3 (Bishop please, Hun, Touch and Go, etc,) with the humor and characters of the OT (Krang, Slash, Dirtbag, Groundchuck, etc,) and even put spins on characters from the comics, which you guys would know more about. I mean things could be good, but only time will tell. I also imagine Paramount releasing the 2k3 series, since they now have the rights to TMNT in full. This is a guess, but if they did, hopefully we will see a re-release of all seasons, or just season 3,4, BttS, and Turtles Forever. I just hope that somehow those make it out on DVD, and if not, I will be saddened. Above all, I just hope that showing of Turtles Forever at least makes it to TV, so I can DVR it, like I did BttS, and put them on VHS, which is better than not having them at all. __________________ "Wisemen say, forgiveness is divine, but never pay full price for a late pizza."

10-21-2009, 08:16 PM	#8
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,217	And the return of Venus! Its obvious old stuff will come back again like mutants and what not. The biggest pro is 4kids wasn't going to make any new tv show for a quite a while and now we have one confirmed for 2012. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

10-21-2009, 09:24 PM	#10
BoggleKng Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Boston, Ma Posts: 1,224	The comic books were the real art behind the Turtles. The art and beauty of the story in comics can never be appreciated on TV... __________________ You guys mind telling me what you're doing to my little green pal over there, hm? -Casey Jones, TMNT movie...

10-21-2009, 09:55 PM	#14
METALHEAD Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: san benito texas Posts: 734	i'm been positive and whole day since i heard the news. __________________ i ship it.

10-21-2009, 02:22 PM	#2
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	Its also obvious that now old toon characters like Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady are no longer off-limits. Now that Peter has no say in the matter, Nick could potentially bring back many of the characters from the original series. This new show could very well be a re-imagining of many characters and mutants from the old toon universe.

10-21-2009, 02:57 PM	#5
Dragon Turtle Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Standing behind you. Posts: 776	I personally hope Nick keeps the tone of the 2k3 cartoon as that version is the most recognizable with today's kids, and such shows as X-Men and Avatar prove they're not all about slapstick kiddie fare. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing updated versions of a few OT characters, however.

10-21-2009, 08:12 PM	#7
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	Peter basically implied on his blog that its possible many of the original cartoon characters and mutants would make their return. I had a feeling this would happen.

10-21-2009, 08:45 PM	#9
Mr._Mutant_Man Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,340	Really the only downside I see is the future of the comic books. I would have preferred to see Disney or WB buy the turtles, that way maybe we'd see comic releases through Marvel or DC. Other than that though, someone else buying the TMNT means someone else is interested enough for there to be a possible future.

10-21-2009, 10:03 PM	#15
John Pannozzi Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 762	The most I'm hoping for is a conclusion to Vol. 4 and some TPBs.

10-22-2009, 07:50 PM	#16
audman Random Punk Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 29	Don't know with the suggestion too bad disney did not pick up tmnt to publish. Got me thinking what is to stop Disney from buying Nickelodeon. We have so far seen some insane changes in almost the span of a summer. Disney and Marvel. Now this. Could happen in the next 10 years if things keep going crazy town like they have been. sorry on total sleep depravation. grammar is poor right now.