Future of the TMNT website? - Page 2

*ToTheNines* · 10-24-2009, 04:18 PM

No drugs, no nudity.

**Krang** · 10-25-2009, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by missourimobile

If you need any help at all with the site let me know. I have lots of experience in web design and maintenance and would be honored to help with adding to The Technodrome.

Thanks for the help! I'll let you know the specifics via PM.

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Originally Posted by missourimobile

This is the utility I am using to grab the site. My first run it didn't grab everything so I am working on getting the portions that HTTrack missed.

Before I saw your original post, I had tried to archive the site using wget, but it missed some sections, too. I think the problem is that its robots.txt file prevents anything under the /html/ directory from being archived.

*Master Splinter* · 10-25-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Krang

Before I saw your original post, I had tried to archive the site using wget, but it missed some sections, too. I think the problem is that its robots.txt file prevents anything under the /html/ directory from being archived.

The issue with the program is that when the site was built some sections use links to directories and other links are full url links... So what you have to do is create an include rule that includes any link with ninjaturtles.com in it. Still it doesn't grab anything but running it a few times on the various sections and I am almost done archiving the site. I am not exactly sure if the archive will work properly without editing some of the links but the pictures and html files will all be there...

-mm

edit... I would highly recommend not using the setting "include ALL links" because that will start downloading the other sites ninjaturtles.com links to like playmates.com, etc... I found that out the hard way...

Newton Gimmick · 10-25-2009, 04:54 PM

Someone just archive the entire site and then reupload it as a new site. Let us know when it's done and you'll have the admiration of the community.

I doubt the new site will be a direct link to Nick. But I'm sure it'll be completely different.

**Krang** · 10-25-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Newton Gimmick

Someone just archive the entire site and then reupload it as a new site. Let us know when it's done and you'll have the admiration of the community.

I'm sure making backups of the site for personal reference is fine, but uploading those backups to a public place without Mirage's permission is not a good idea.

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I doubt the new site will be a direct link to Nick. But I'm sure it'll be completely different.

If you're referring to my earlier post, I didn't mean that ninjaturtles.com would simply go to nick.com, I just meant that I'm guessing they'll redirect to a new subsection of nick.com for TMNT stuff (for example, tmnt.nick.com or nick.com/tmnt) to make it easier for them to maintain and to get TMNT fans familiar with them at the same time.

saiyan_monkey · 10-26-2009, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Newton Gimmick

Someone just archive the entire site and then reupload it as a new site. Let us know when it's done and you'll have the admiration of the community.

I doubt the new site will be a direct link to Nick. But I'm sure it'll be completely different.

Ive just about finished the TMNT card libary archive so I'll start archiving everything. What do people think? should I?

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Originally Posted by Krang

I'm sure making backups of the site for personal reference is fine, but uploading those backups to a public place without Mirage's permission is not a good idea.

What do you mean? Couldnt I take the relevant pics and info and upload it?

**Krang** · 10-26-2009, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by saiyan_monkey

What do you mean? Couldnt I take the relevant pics and info and upload it?

I'm just saying that I'm not sure if Mirage would allow that. I think it would be best to play it safe and ask Dan Berger first before uploading anything from the official site to a publicly viewable location. I don't think there would be anything wrong with zipping up the site and passing around the link privately like missourimobile was doing, though.

saiyan_monkey · 10-26-2009, 03:49 AM

Ah ok so is everything all done and saved already?

*Master Splinter* · 10-26-2009, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by saiyan_monkey

Ah ok so is everything all done and saved already?

I think I got everything finished up. I want to double check everything again tonight and then upload the complete site tomorrow and send out the link again. I would also have to agree with Krang in that you should not upload the site to another host. That is just asking for trouble. Personal reference would be fine, I would think...

-mm

*sdp* · 10-26-2009, 07:18 PM

Don't forget the letters sections, they can be found here:
http://www.geocities.com/jafarnut/venusproject/letters/

This is what Dan told me in an email.

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It would be a good idea for people to save the stuff they value before it disappears, because we won't be able to post most of it on our new site.

I'm sure Mirage would have no problem, its Nick that could potential have a problem.

*Kendamu* · 10-26-2009, 07:29 PM

Might wanna save those letters. Geocities is going down very soon.

*Master Splinter* · 10-29-2009, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

Might wanna save those letters. Geocities is going down very soon.

Yeah I missed it... It's already down....

Oh and by the way... Every time I think I am done downloading the site another section or parts of a section didn't download... I'm gonna keep at it until I make sure everything is archived. I had no idea there were storyboards and stuff on this site. It's way more massive than I originally thought.

-mm

**Venom** · 10-29-2009, 09:54 PM

Okay, total html noob here so please don't flame me, and I'm sure you guys that have more experience with html have this stuff already, but using the operator "site:" on Google yields 1450 results that have working links to old stuff like Next Mutation pics with Kevin and other golden nuggets like Splinter's words of wisdom, coloring book pages, etc.

Also, again I'm sure you guys have already thought of this, but the wayback machine engine on http://www.archive.org can give some more stuff like the Turtle letters pages going back several years!

*oldmanwinters* · 10-29-2009, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by missourimobile

Yeah I missed it... It's already down....

Oh and by the way... Every time I think I am done downloading the site another section or parts of a section didn't download... I'm gonna keep at it until I make sure everything is archived. I had no idea there were storyboards and stuff on this site. It's way more massive than I originally thought.

-mm

Besides the old toon, DVDs, and VHS sections, it also looks like you haven't been able to rip the Books of the Future(Upcoming) section yet.

*Master Splinter* · 10-30-2009, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Besides the old toon, DVDs, and VHS sections, it also looks like you haven't been able to rip the Books of the Future(Upcoming) section yet.

I got the VHS and DVD sections last night, as well as some storyboards. I think I got all of the old toon as well, but I need to check that to make sure.

-mm

Dragnskull · 11-01-2009, 06:35 AM

this is why i love http://www.archive.org/index.php

*Master Splinter* · 11-01-2009, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragnskull

this is why i love http://www.archive.org/index.php

Yeah I like the waybackmachine on there... But I would like to have a local copy of the site... mainly just for the pictures...

-mm

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 11-02-2009, 07:47 AM

I hope someone is able to write TMNT Pedia articles about the episodes (with own words).

wyldsilence · 11-29-2009, 10:38 PM

I've been on that site since 2000, I love it, the old toy archive especially, question: should I start archiving the pages before the Viacom overhall or will all the material be moved, or perserved somehow?

**Krang** · 11-29-2009, 10:51 PM

At this point, it is not known for sure what will happen with the site, but it is very unlikely that Viacom will move the content to their servers when they take over the domain. I would recommend saving local copies of any of the pages that you want to keep around.

10-26-2009, 03:49 AM	#28
saiyan_monkey Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 415	Ah ok so is everything all done and saved already? __________________ Rarecardz Libary

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11-02-2009, 07:47 AM	#38
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,481	Episodes I hope someone is able to write TMNT Pedia articles about the episodes (with own words).

11-29-2009, 10:38 PM	#39
wyldsilence Mouser Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5	Old ninjaturtles.com site closing... I've been on that site since 2000, I love it, the old toy archive especially, question: should I start archiving the pages before the Viacom overhall or will all the material be moved, or perserved somehow?

11-29-2009, 10:51 PM	#40
Krang Admin and Sega Guru Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Dimension X Posts: 3,755	At this point, it is not known for sure what will happen with the site, but it is very unlikely that Viacom will move the content to their servers when they take over the domain. I would recommend saving local copies of any of the pages that you want to keep around. __________________ "My motherboard's microchips are chomping at the... 'bit'. A little computer humor." --Krang, Welcome Back, Polarisoids

10-24-2009, 04:18 PM	#21
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,354	No drugs, no nudity.

10-25-2009, 04:54 PM	#24
Newton Gimmick Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,154	Someone just archive the entire site and then reupload it as a new site. Let us know when it's done and you'll have the admiration of the community. I doubt the new site will be a direct link to Nick. But I'm sure it'll be completely different.

10-26-2009, 07:29 PM	#31
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	Might wanna save those letters. Geocities is going down very soon.

10-29-2009, 09:54 PM	#33
Venom Space Knight Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,637	Okay, total html noob here so please don't flame me, and I'm sure you guys that have more experience with html have this stuff already, but using the operator "site:" on Google yields 1450 results that have working links to old stuff like Next Mutation pics with Kevin and other golden nuggets like Splinter's words of wisdom, coloring book pages, etc. Also, again I'm sure you guys have already thought of this, but the wayback machine engine on http://www.archive.org can give some more stuff like the Turtle letters pages going back several years!