Continuation or Remake? - Page 3

Tuxedo Moroboshi · 10-31-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Michelangelo83

Besides, "Ben 10" has used teeny-bop versions of April and Casey for years. >_>

I've seen Ben 10 episodes here and there, but I never really followed it much. That being the case, are you referring to Kevin and Gwen? If so, wow, I never really thought about it before, but they do seem pretty similar to Casey and April.

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Yoshi being Splinter

I hope not, honestly. Back then, they only did that because of how strict children's programing rules were back then, but I honestly always thought Splinter having always been a rat works better. Besides that, the way mutation works in the OT really doesn't make any sense (from everything I've seen, it was always more magical than scientific, despite claiming to be scientific). For that matter, and this is only my opinion, if Bebop and Rocksteady are to appear in this new show, I think I'd prefer it if they were a a rhino and a warthog that got mutated, rather than human thugs.

Speaking of which... in the OT, what the heck ever happened to the rhino and warthog that were used for B&R's mutations? And none of the rats Yoshi touched got mutated? And if the Turtles turned into humanoid turtles because they were with Yoshi (a human), why didn't Yoshi turn into a turtle rather than a rat? Or for that matter, maybe a turtle/rat hybrid?

You know what? I'm gonna stop trying to make sense out of the OT mutagen. Lest I start going into the infamous "Michelangelo turns into a human" episode and all of its flaws.

*The Stryker* · 10-31-2009, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by J 1982

You can always create your own TMNT universe, with fanfiction stories.

You'd think they would be happy with that but no. They want everything to reflect what THEY want.

*Sage Ninja* · 11-05-2009, 07:01 PM

I'm really opn the fence on which one that I want. It has been a secret dream to have the orginal 80's toon come back on the air with new episodes, since I enjoyed those portrayals so much. Raphael as a smart-ass, Michaelangelo as laid back party dude, Donatello as the smart tech guy with some disdain for humanity, and Splinter as Yoshi, and April as reporter.

I liked those personalites/portrayals. I loved how they meshed with each other, and every one can say what they want about the old toon I liked it's orginality and the stories. I've always wanted to have the show come back with a "years done the road" sort of way. If it was ever brought back as a contiuation I would want it to be grittier and more hard hitting. Like season one and seven but with perhaps a bit more serious than that.

However I do see the merits of a remake and it has me excited and hopeful. a remake of the 80's toon (if it's a straight remake) could be chance to start things off fresh with the same characters, which could be so cool. I would love to see the technodrome and Shredder, Krang and Bebop and Rocksteady, but with a diiferent execution of their characters.

I think this could be a chance to have a few tweaks in certain characters. I worte this on another thread so I'm going to post it here:

Mondo Gecko. His origins of being orginally a human rock star turned mutant in the archies sounds like it would be a cool new take on his character.

And Leatherhead's origin in the archies as a human who got changed into a gator man by a vodoo witch sounds pretty damn awsome, that I would like to see a shot at in a remake.

And other characters like Lugnut and Screwloose could get better potrayals like they did in the archie comics than they did in the show.

And Slash has so much potential as a foil for the other four turtles of being violent and evil rather than a borderline retarded submutant that he was portrayed as in the 80's toon.

I think this could be cool to see some of the archie portrayals in animation form. My only concern ishow the personalites of some of the turtles would be handled. Since this new wave of turtle fandom there has been this standard of Donatello being this cutsey sweet guy, Michelangelo being this ADHD annoying bratty little brother sterotype, and Raphael and Leonardo at each others throats domiinating the show.

*odupianist* · 11-06-2009, 07:50 AM

I have a feeling this show will be more like the show that was mentioned in PL's blog awhile back before BttS where it would be all sorts of characters in there. I can't remember the name right now of the show they proposed. It wouldn't surprise me if they went back to that idea though.

Lynn · 11-06-2009, 09:33 AM

Remake. It would be awesome to see a villian being not nearly incompetant as Shredder but still retaining the humor. A cross between Dregg and Shredder.

~~Lieutenant Granitor~~ · 11-06-2009, 12:49 PM

I'd say continuation. IF Nick does a remake they will mess it up. IF they do reruns thats different. I would love them to do reruns, but not REMAKES! Also I wish they do continuation to OT, since Shredder and Krang return in Turtles Forever, that seems like a goog idea!

hadoolket · 11-07-2009, 06:08 AM

rather than just a continuation or a remake...

...i'd like a fine tuning that does a clever blend between the seriousness of the modern age and the slapstick of the old days--not that i expect such, but kids are a little too serious these days and adults are just as bad about being serious, too. people need to laugh it up a little, but at the same time, shouldn't be too afraid to be too serious/personal/intimate in fear of believing that seriousness and humor would cancel out each other. afterall, that's what we call irony! it's like that story about the astronaut who drove 18 hours in diapers to go kill her boyfriend in the way that it's serious, but also funny because of the diapers thing

and characters can be reintroduced and reinvented just the same without fear of stepping on toes of fans of the past, ex irma who annoys people with her man-cravings; she can be sort of brought back on the insignificant side as someone a little more grown-up and mature about herself! not very hard, and sorry to use this as an example, but fanfics do this all the time (quality is questionable)

of course to pull this off in a good way, i guess that actually requires some competent writers, nevermind!

Aztec General · 11-07-2009, 02:06 PM

Neither. Do something completely new. Which is what they are going to do. If you are expecting to see TMNT 1987 on Nickelodeon you are in for a shock.

I'm telling you, as of right now even Nick doesn't know what direction they want to head. So don't listen to internet rumors.

SpellbinderV · 11-10-2009, 11:42 AM

Ok. First, if they plan to do something with TMNT, it should be something complitely New, or continuation of OT. But for turtles sake, not a remake. I remember reading interview where they discussed planned Season 11 plot, and they mentioned return of Shredder and Krang. So IMO if new OT series ever come to life, they should be not so childish like 1-7 seasons, but something balanced between RSS & 2003 series.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 11-10-2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SpellbinderV

Ok. First, if they plan to do something with TMNT, it should be something complitely New, or continuation of OT. But for turtles sake, not a remake. I remember reading interview where they discussed planned Season 11 plot, and they mentioned return of Shredder and Krang. So IMO if new OT series ever come to life, they should be not so childish like 1-7 seasons, but something balanced between RSS & 2003 series.

Maybe like Archie?

*The Stryker* · 11-10-2009, 01:09 PM

So you want a remake of the 2003 series instead of the OT? Pretty much what you're saying.

Remake is entirely the wrong word in this discussion. Especially since most net goblins these days fear the word and mess their sh*t whenever it's attached to anything.

Dejablue · 12-15-2009, 01:37 AM

Grrr I can't make up my mind. Arg I kinda didn't like the Red Sky season...but at the same time the OT Turtles before that point probably would piss most people off in a new show...ugh. It's like i'm stuck between a rock and a horde of angry fans who will pitch fork you no matter what you choose.

amberbratt · 12-15-2009, 03:07 AM

Im not sure what I want.. I mean it is 25 years old.. so even the old series is like going on 7 years

I think something continued in the style of the 200X would be nice.. but we need something catching everyone up to speed on who they are...

we all know the story... but have a different take on the intro or a dif view with out being 2 complicated would be nice

and hopefully they don't make it all wacko cartoony like the turtles forever turtles.. they looked good but lol... little to cheezy for me.

so maybe the look of the 80's turtles.. and then the story telling of the 200x

Godzilla · 12-15-2009, 08:31 AM

I have no desire to see a continuation of the 87 toon (not that would actually happen anyways).

Remake/Rebooting the series is definately the more likely scenario, and since the decision is to make it much akin to the 87 toon, that's fine. From a marketing/popularity POV, bringing in the approach to the TMNT franchise that was extremely successful for a good number of years WOULD be the way to go for Nick. However, my hope is to see the new series be one that not only appeals to younger kids (to which the new series would be aimed to please), but also older fans as well (since there are alot of people in their 20's, and hey let's be honest, 30's too ... that have alot of affection for these characters. Especially those found in the OT TMNT universe).

Other than a blend of OT TMNT and 2k3 TMNT, my ideal scenario would be something akin to the 1990's Superman animated series. Which was decidedly more lighter in it's approach than the Batman animated series was (which was only right), but also still being fun to watch and most importantly, appealing to a wider demographic than what could have otherwise been.

Dejablue · 12-15-2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TMNTShredder

I have no desire to see a continuation of the 87 toon (not that would actually happen anyways).

Remake/Rebooting the series is definately the more likely scenario, and since the decision is to make it much akin to the 87 toon, that's fine. From a marketing/popularity POV, bringing in the approach to the TMNT franchise that was extremely successful for a good number of years WOULD be the way to go for Nick. However, my hope is to see the new series be one that not only appeals to younger kids (to which the new series would be aimed to please), but also older fans as well (since there are alot of people in their 20's, and hey let's be honest, 30's too ... that have alot of affection for these characters. Especially those found in the OT TMNT universe).

Other than a blend of OT TMNT and 2k3 TMNT, my ideal scenario would be something akin to the 1990's Superman animated series. Which was decidedly more lighter in it's approach than the Batman animated series was (which was only right), but also still being fun to watch and most importantly, appealing to a wider demographic than what could have otherwise been.

Yeah this is most likely the scenario we'll get and I'd actually like that. Or at least...in my mind I'd like that.

Avatar Yuffie · 12-08-2010, 04:38 AM

Man, if TMNT can reboot in the same way as Spectacular Spider-Man did I'm all for it (tweaking the characters, but at the same time staying to their roots).

I just really hope for good writers.

*CyberCubed* · 12-08-2010, 09:11 AM

The new show will neither be a continuation nor a remake of the old series. Anyone who thinks so is kidding themselves.

It'll be an all-new take on TMNT that uses some familiar characters and old bad guys, but other than that it'll be new.

Some origin stories might be similar, and I'm interested to see if Splinter is a human or a rat, but we'll see.

*oldmanwinters* · 12-08-2010, 11:40 AM

I don't really have that much interest in seeing a new "origin story arc." I think it would be cool to have the new show hit the ground running within an already established status quo (major characters such as April, Casey, Shredder, etc. have known the TMNT for a while). This would avoid yet another attempt at trying to reshape the TMNT universe and focus on the actual storytelling of new adventures. Occasional flashbacks could fill in background details from time to time. So... pretty much just make the show Batman: The Animated Series.

*Koi* · 12-08-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Some origin stories might be similar, and I'm interested to see if Splinter is a human or a rat, but we'll see.

I always thought the human story, made more sense... besides that one loophole.

Anyway, I would LOVE a remake. Something new and different to dish out. New characters even. The turtles remade, with maybe even different takes on there personalities. I just want to see how much they could shake things up. I wouldn't mind to see something different from the show then the norm. I don't think it will ever go as far as I want it to go.

Jelly Bean · 12-08-2010, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Some origin stories might be similar, and I'm interested to see if Splinter is a human or a rat, but we'll see.

maybe they'll make Splinter an alien rodent instead of a mutated rat/human this time around.

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maybe even different takes on there personalities

I would welcome that. Since Rob Paulsen is voicing Donatello maybe that could be an indicator of different his personality could be from passed interpertations.

Just to shake things up, could the new show maybe not make Rapahel angry and defiant, Not have Mikey so stupid and goofy, and maybe not have Leo so much a "model student."

View Poll Results: Would you rather Nickelodean did a remake or continuation of the 80's toon?
contiuation	16	27.12%
remake	43	72.88%
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11-05-2009, 07:01 PM	#43
Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,926	I'm really opn the fence on which one that I want. It has been a secret dream to have the orginal 80's toon come back on the air with new episodes, since I enjoyed those portrayals so much. Raphael as a smart-ass, Michaelangelo as laid back party dude, Donatello as the smart tech guy with some disdain for humanity, and Splinter as Yoshi, and April as reporter. I liked those personalites/portrayals. I loved how they meshed with each other, and every one can say what they want about the old toon I liked it's orginality and the stories. I've always wanted to have the show come back with a "years done the road" sort of way. If it was ever brought back as a contiuation I would want it to be grittier and more hard hitting. Like season one and seven but with perhaps a bit more serious than that. However I do see the merits of a remake and it has me excited and hopeful. a remake of the 80's toon (if it's a straight remake) could be chance to start things off fresh with the same characters, which could be so cool. I would love to see the technodrome and Shredder, Krang and Bebop and Rocksteady, but with a diiferent execution of their characters. I think this could be a chance to have a few tweaks in certain characters. I worte this on another thread so I'm going to post it here: Mondo Gecko. His origins of being orginally a human rock star turned mutant in the archies sounds like it would be a cool new take on his character. And Leatherhead's origin in the archies as a human who got changed into a gator man by a vodoo witch sounds pretty damn awsome, that I would like to see a shot at in a remake. And other characters like Lugnut and Screwloose could get better potrayals like they did in the archie comics than they did in the show. And Slash has so much potential as a foil for the other four turtles of being violent and evil rather than a borderline retarded submutant that he was portrayed as in the 80's toon. I think this could be cool to see some of the archie portrayals in animation form. My only concern ishow the personalites of some of the turtles would be handled. Since this new wave of turtle fandom there has been this standard of Donatello being this cutsey sweet guy, Michelangelo being this ADHD annoying bratty little brother sterotype, and Raphael and Leonardo at each others throats domiinating the show. __________________ Cassandra: You won't fight me, but will you fight--for him! Cassandra's Revenge ~Tangled the Series ________________________________ http://frankviola.org/2012/01/30/godsviewofawoman/ _______________________________ http://nox-artemis.tumblr.com/post/4...k-and-feminism

11-07-2009, 02:06 PM	#48
Aztec General Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,437	Neither. Do something completely new. Which is what they are going to do. If you are expecting to see TMNT 1987 on Nickelodeon you are in for a shock. I'm telling you, as of right now even Nick doesn't know what direction they want to head. So don't listen to internet rumors. __________________

11-10-2009, 01:09 PM	#51
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	So you want a remake of the 2003 series instead of the OT? Pretty much what you're saying. Remake is entirely the wrong word in this discussion. Especially since most net goblins these days fear the word and mess their sh*t whenever it's attached to anything. __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

12-08-2010, 04:38 AM	#56
Avatar Yuffie Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 805	Man, if TMNT can reboot in the same way as Spectacular Spider-Man did I'm all for it (tweaking the characters, but at the same time staying to their roots). I just really hope for good writers. __________________ We all know that Most Writers Are Male. Something like eighty percent of media aimed at children have male main characters, whereas half the population is female. At best, women will often be minor characters or will not be present at all. Stories about women are for women, stories about men are for general consumption. (TV Tropes Feminist Fantasy)

11-06-2009, 07:50 AM	#44
odupianist Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,744	I have a feeling this show will be more like the show that was mentioned in PL's blog awhile back before BttS where it would be all sorts of characters in there. I can't remember the name right now of the show they proposed. It wouldn't surprise me if they went back to that idea though.

11-06-2009, 09:33 AM	#45
Lynn Hench Mutant Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 269	Remake. It would be awesome to see a villian being not nearly incompetant as Shredder but still retaining the humor. A cross between Dregg and Shredder.

11-06-2009, 12:49 PM	#46
~~Lieutenant Granitor~~ Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Dimension X, Michigan, Farmington Hills, Detroit Posts: 221	I'd say continuation. IF Nick does a remake they will mess it up. IF they do reruns thats different. I would love them to do reruns, but not REMAKES! Also I wish they do continuation to OT, since Shredder and Krang return in Turtles Forever, that seems like a goog idea!

11-07-2009, 06:08 AM	#47
hadoolket Thug Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 93	rather than just a continuation or a remake... ...i'd like a fine tuning that does a clever blend between the seriousness of the modern age and the slapstick of the old days--not that i expect such, but kids are a little too serious these days and adults are just as bad about being serious, too. people need to laugh it up a little, but at the same time, shouldn't be too afraid to be too serious/personal/intimate in fear of believing that seriousness and humor would cancel out each other. afterall, that's what we call irony! it's like that story about the astronaut who drove 18 hours in diapers to go kill her boyfriend in the way that it's serious, but also funny because of the diapers thing and characters can be reintroduced and reinvented just the same without fear of stepping on toes of fans of the past, ex irma who annoys people with her man-cravings; she can be sort of brought back on the insignificant side as someone a little more grown-up and mature about herself! not very hard, and sorry to use this as an example, but fanfics do this all the time (quality is questionable) of course to pull this off in a good way, i guess that actually requires some competent writers, nevermind!

11-10-2009, 11:42 AM	#49
SpellbinderV Mouser Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 9	Ok. First, if they plan to do something with TMNT, it should be something complitely New, or continuation of OT. But for turtles sake, not a remake. I remember reading interview where they discussed planned Season 11 plot, and they mentioned return of Shredder and Krang. So IMO if new OT series ever come to life, they should be not so childish like 1-7 seasons, but something balanced between RSS & 2003 series.

12-15-2009, 01:37 AM	#52
Dejablue Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: In the USA Posts: 637	Grrr I can't make up my mind. Arg I kinda didn't like the Red Sky season...but at the same time the OT Turtles before that point probably would piss most people off in a new show...ugh. It's like i'm stuck between a rock and a horde of angry fans who will pitch fork you no matter what you choose.

12-15-2009, 03:07 AM	#53
amberbratt New Recruit Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1	Im not sure what I want.. I mean it is 25 years old.. so even the old series is like going on 7 years I think something continued in the style of the 200X would be nice.. but we need something catching everyone up to speed on who they are... we all know the story... but have a different take on the intro or a dif view with out being 2 complicated would be nice and hopefully they don't make it all wacko cartoony like the turtles forever turtles.. they looked good but lol... little to cheezy for me. so maybe the look of the 80's turtles.. and then the story telling of the 200x

12-15-2009, 08:31 AM	#54
Godzilla Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 235	I have no desire to see a continuation of the 87 toon (not that would actually happen anyways). Remake/Rebooting the series is definately the more likely scenario, and since the decision is to make it much akin to the 87 toon, that's fine. From a marketing/popularity POV, bringing in the approach to the TMNT franchise that was extremely successful for a good number of years WOULD be the way to go for Nick. However, my hope is to see the new series be one that not only appeals to younger kids (to which the new series would be aimed to please), but also older fans as well (since there are alot of people in their 20's, and hey let's be honest, 30's too ... that have alot of affection for these characters. Especially those found in the OT TMNT universe). Other than a blend of OT TMNT and 2k3 TMNT, my ideal scenario would be something akin to the 1990's Superman animated series. Which was decidedly more lighter in it's approach than the Batman animated series was (which was only right), but also still being fun to watch and most importantly, appealing to a wider demographic than what could have otherwise been.

12-08-2010, 09:11 AM	#57
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	The new show will neither be a continuation nor a remake of the old series. Anyone who thinks so is kidding themselves. It'll be an all-new take on TMNT that uses some familiar characters and old bad guys, but other than that it'll be new. Some origin stories might be similar, and I'm interested to see if Splinter is a human or a rat, but we'll see.

12-08-2010, 11:40 AM	#58
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,499	I don't really have that much interest in seeing a new "origin story arc." I think it would be cool to have the new show hit the ground running within an already established status quo (major characters such as April, Casey, Shredder, etc. have known the TMNT for a while). This would avoid yet another attempt at trying to reshape the TMNT universe and focus on the actual storytelling of new adventures. Occasional flashbacks could fill in background details from time to time. So... pretty much just make the show Batman: The Animated Series. __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!