The 25 Greatest Moments in TMNT History (article by me) - Page 2

*Scandia* · 12-31-2009, 07:42 PM

Very interesting.

Shows you are a big Tristan fan. He has come a long way and is doing an awesome job.

The movies did get Casey Jones right. But I still think my fave Casey is from 2k3.

*DrSpengler* · 12-31-2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Scandia

The movies did get Casey Jones right. But I still think my fave Casey is from 2k3.

I enjoyed that Casey with the exception of his portrayal in the second half of Season 2 and Season 3.

He was turned into too much of a bumbling oaf intended to elicit cheap laughs with his ineptitude and it got really annoying. They basically neutered the character of everything that made him interesting and boiled him down to a shell of his worst qualities all for the sake of lame comedy relief.

The writers seemed to realize this and rectified their mistake by Season 4, returning him to the competent (if not too bright) vigilante he was in season 1.

*Ninjinister* · 12-31-2009, 08:39 PM

I wonder if anybody's got the stones to do a thoughtful, proper "25 worst" list that's not just full of generic, broad entries like "derrr... all of vol. 4" or "smash up cuz there's no bebop or rocksteady."

Dejablue · 12-31-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ninjinister

I wonder if anybody's got the stones to do a thoughtful, proper "25 worst" list that's not just full of generic, broad entries like "derrr... all of vol. 4" or "smash up cuz there's no bebop or rocksteady."

Meh more like a marathon run of several OT episodes. TMNT 3, the Coming Out of Our Shells tour, and whatever else the person can think of.

*Andrew NDB* · 12-31-2009, 08:57 PM

Brilliant list, Spengler.

I don't know about a 25 Worst Moments list. One man's meat is another man's garbage... I think it'd be a pretty polarizing affair.

*DrSpengler* · 12-31-2009, 09:08 PM

As was pointed out, even my 25 Greatest article was fairly...cynical.

I didn't want it to be a gushing lovefest so I made sure to include some chiding where applicable.

A 25 Worst article would be nothing but pure venom and, I dunno, that's a tad mean-spirited, even for me. After all, I know that some of the Mirage guys do check out my site from time to time...

*CyberCubed* · 12-31-2009, 09:30 PM

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A 25 Worst article would be nothing but pure venom and, I dunno, that's a tad mean-spirited, even for me. After all, I know that some of the Mirage guys do check out my site from time to time...

Not to mention a "worst list," has to include stuff like the Next Mutation, The Coming out of their Shells tour stuff, other random mishaps, and some of the worst episodes of the cartoons...which are debateable.

It basically depends what is seen as a mistake that should have never happened, not simply "disappointments," which means it could have been great, but wasn't so hot, like the recent Donatello: Brain Thief mini-series by Jim Lawson.

*Ninjinister* · 12-31-2009, 11:45 PM

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It basically depends what is seen as a mistake that should have never happened, not simply "disappointments," which means it could have been great, but wasn't so hot, like the recent Donatello: Brain Thief mini-series by Jim Lawson.

Which somehow placed higher than Tristan's inaugural issue on a list of best comics for the year :/

Dejablue · 01-01-2010, 01:53 AM

Lol see? One man's meat is another man's garbage.

Oooor they just don't know what they're talking about.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 01-01-2010, 07:23 AM

The Tehcnodrome ended up in the Arctic region, not Antarctica.

*ToTheNines* · 01-01-2010, 10:42 AM

After going over it again, the only problem I have is that Turtles Forever was way too low.

*Cipher* · 01-04-2010, 03:15 AM

This was amazing. You were really firing on all cylinders here. A great, pan-canon list.

And I can see that we enjoy the series for a lot of the same reasons. It wasn't a list full of the most bad-ass ninja moments. It included plenty of the down-to-earth, and self-aware humor moments as well, which are honestly the best parts of Turtles to me.

The only things I felt were absent were the final panels of "City at War," and April's origin issue. The former, I feel is definitely an oversight, as it's the only true ending the Mirage comics have seen, and a great one. The latter, I can forgive because I understand how controversial it was. (But, I maintain, very well-handled).

That, and "Leonardo Lightens Up." Hallmark episode for sure.

EDIT - I also feel like you could've sparred a Tristan issue to make room for "Blind Faith"/"Blind Sight." But it's your list.

CrazySquirrel · 03-23-2011, 11:38 AM

Someone meantioned this recently so I went back and read it.... amazing! What an emotional read...

*Jephael* · 03-24-2011, 10:17 PM

I'm really enjoying this article, dude! I like how you refer to each cartoon series by the companies that made them (Fred Wolf and 4Kids) instead of saying OT and "2k3" like everyone says for some odd reason.

12-31-2009, 07:42 PM	#21
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	Very interesting. Shows you are a big Tristan fan. He has come a long way and is doing an awesome job. The movies did get Casey Jones right. But I still think my fave Casey is from 2k3. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

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Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	I wonder if anybody's got the stones to do a thoughtful, proper "25 worst" list that's not just full of generic, broad entries like "derrr... all of vol. 4" or "smash up cuz there's no bebop or rocksteady." __________________

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Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,543	Brilliant list, Spengler. I don't know about a 25 Worst Moments list. One man's meat is another man's garbage... I think it'd be a pretty polarizing affair. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

01-01-2010, 01:53 AM	#29
Dejablue Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: In the USA Posts: 637	Lol see? One man's meat is another man's garbage. Oooor they just don't know what they're talking about. __________________ ^^^^ SHELLHEADS Inc.- A TMNT Discord!

01-01-2010, 07:23 AM	#30
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,481	Arctic region The Tehcnodrome ended up in the Arctic region, not Antarctica.

12-31-2009, 09:08 PM	#26
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	As was pointed out, even my 25 Greatest article was fairly...cynical. I didn't want it to be a gushing lovefest so I made sure to include some chiding where applicable. A 25 Worst article would be nothing but pure venom and, I dunno, that's a tad mean-spirited, even for me. After all, I know that some of the Mirage guys do check out my site from time to time...

01-01-2010, 10:42 AM	#31
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,354	After going over it again, the only problem I have is that Turtles Forever was way too low.

01-04-2010, 03:15 AM	#32
Cipher Foot Elite Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,454	This was amazing. You were really firing on all cylinders here. A great, pan-canon list. And I can see that we enjoy the series for a lot of the same reasons. It wasn't a list full of the most bad-ass ninja moments. It included plenty of the down-to-earth, and self-aware humor moments as well, which are honestly the best parts of Turtles to me. The only things I felt were absent were the final panels of "City at War," and April's origin issue. The former, I feel is definitely an oversight, as it's the only true ending the Mirage comics have seen, and a great one. The latter, I can forgive because I understand how controversial it was. (But, I maintain, very well-handled). That, and "Leonardo Lightens Up." Hallmark episode for sure. EDIT - I also feel like you could've sparred a Tristan issue to make room for "Blind Faith"/"Blind Sight." But it's your list.

03-23-2011, 11:38 AM	#33
CrazySquirrel Foot Soldier Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 147	Someone meantioned this recently so I went back and read it.... amazing! What an emotional read...

03-24-2011, 10:17 PM	#34
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	I'm really enjoying this article, dude! I like how you refer to each cartoon series by the companies that made them (Fred Wolf and 4Kids) instead of saying OT and "2k3" like everyone says for some odd reason. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988 Last edited by Jephael; 03-24-2011 at 10:33 PM.