NBC Drops Prime Time Leno - Page 2

*MrPliggins* · 01-13-2010, 12:02 AM

Man..this does stink..now the Tonight Show's going to go back to "same old...". Jay Leno has worn out his welcome, many times over.

**Shredder** · 01-13-2010, 01:23 AM

This really sucks...I've been a fan of Conan's for years and have really enjoyed him on the Tonight Show. Now it's looking more and more like he won't be on TV anywhere (at least for now). I don't really get this whole thing. Why did Leno leave the Tonight Show in the first place if he wasn't serious about retiring? Shouldn't Leno be the one who has to look for a new place to take his show since his show was the one canceled due to low ratings? I hope things somehow work out, but this isn't looking good...

**ThirdMarioBro** · 01-13-2010, 03:26 AM

NBC is a goddamn mad house run by arrogant mother****ers that are more ignorant than a mega-bank CEO. Conan O'Brien is the funniest guy on TV, bar NONE. He's been making me laugh for most of my good years, and a little bit before that. Jay Leno is a tired old sack of stale humor that just want to win. He doesn't care the cost. He just wants to win. Period. He's terrible in every way. He's a terrible comic, he's a terrible host, he's a terrible writer, and he's a terrible person.

Conan's humor at the end of the day has gotten me through some rough stuff when I needed it. The thought of not having him on TV because some arrogant bastard at NBC decided to do something crazy to compensate for his tiny penis is depressing as hell to me. That network deserves to burn in hell. Slowly. I consider myself a loyal person. If they're going to drive Conan out for Leno's retiree audience, I'll never watch that network again. Not even for 30 Rock. Ever. I know a lot of folks who share my sentiment. We grew up with Conan. They take away my Conan, and I unplug the TV from the cable box. He's about the last thing that the TV gets any use for that isn't a video game.

I'll stop now because I could go on flaming all night at this point. NBC: Nothing But Crap. Burn in HELL you pieces of sh*t.

*XERO* · 01-13-2010, 08:01 AM

Damn, I haven't seen TMB like this since the Twilight Princess delay.

*Roseangelo* · 01-13-2010, 10:43 AM

Jimmy Kimmel last night:

If you click over to YouTube there are more clips.

*Duke* · 01-13-2010, 01:44 PM

I completely understand Conan's position of not wanting to accept a time change for the Tonight Show. However, I actually think he's completely wrong in believing a time slot change will be the death of the Tonight Show. I actually think it would do wonders for his ratings. Right now he's competing against something that neither Letterman nor Leno really had to do. He's competing against the Colbert Report. Letterman and Leno weren't really trying to grab up the demographic of Colbert Nation but that's right up Conan's alley. By accepting a Timeslot change to 12:05 EST, he should be capable of grabbing the Stewart/Colbert demographic as both those shows are over. I don't really see loyal Conan followers suddenly switching to Letterman either. They might prefer the Letterman opening monolog to watching the Jay Leno show for 30 minutes but I’m pretty positive Team Conan will be just as likely to watch at 12:05 am as they are at 11:35 pm.

*Roseangelo* · 01-13-2010, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Duke

However, I actually think he's completely wrong in believing a time slot change will be the death of the Tonight Show. I actually think it would do wonders for his ratings.

Except Conan isn't referring to ratings in his statement. He means the actual image of what The Tonight Show is. The Tonight Show is *the* staple late night talk show with a very deep and respected history. The Tonight Show is *not* a second string show that follows the wants and desires of another guy who refuses to see that his time has come and gone.

The only audience Leno is getting is the audience that hates change. Because Leno hasn't gone away, they haven't had to accept change. Take Leno away 100% and things will fall into place for Conan and The Tonight Show just fine.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 01-13-2010, 05:29 PM

Bingo. And the other thing people don't realize, is that this isn't the first time a situation like this has happened. Back in 1962, Jack Parr decided to leave the Tonight Show. He retired because of the five night a week workload. Then after Johnny took over, Parr changed his mind and NBC gave him a prime-time talk show. It eventually tanked, and NBC stuck with Johnny Carson.

Gee, I wonder how that turned out for them?

Ginny · 01-13-2010, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Howard Stern also has some great "Jay Leno's a backstabbing prick" stories.

Howard Stern is THE MAN!!! LOVE HIM!!!

Leno sucks!!! He can't hold a candle to Conan. WTF is NBC thinking?

**ThirdMarioBro** · 01-13-2010, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benvenuto

Damn, I haven't seen TMB like this since the Twilight Princess delay.

Yep. Its good to be back.

*Guitar_Raph* · 01-13-2010, 10:14 PM

Impersonating another talk show host on another network (CBS), I have my own Top 10!

ERRORS NBC HAS MADE

(Mikey plays snare drum roll)

10). Have Saturday Today replace Saturday morning cartoons.

9). The XFL.

8]. Losing the Belmont & Breeder's Cup to ABC (horse racing).

7). Losing the NFL to CBS back in 1998. If they had kept the AFC Sunday games, the Houston Texans would've blayed regularly on NBC. Now they're the only AFC team never to have played on NBC (along with San Francisco, Detroit & St. Louis for the NFC).

6). Baseball. Costas would love to have the national pasttime back not since 2000. Maybe the Blue Jays will play a network game since 1993 on CBS.

5). Having Days of Our Lives as the sole survivor of NBC Daytime.

4). Back in 2000, rumors Concentration would be back after the Sydney Olympics, but has 3rd hour of Today Show instead to stab game show fans in the back (and it would've been on my birthday).

3). Anne Robinson, you are the Weakest Link, good-bye!

2). Jay Leno getting his way.

(Mikey stops)

And the #1 answer is...

(Ex-Cel plays tympani drumroll)

SCREWING CONAN O'BRIEN!!!

(Ex-Cel stops)

Ra · 01-13-2010, 10:53 PM

...what? Just... what?

Granted, I don't follow NBC and what-not since it doesn't really affect anyone here in my rock of the world but just... what?!

Okay. I have to get this off my chest: I absoultely hate Leno. Can't stand him ever since the first time I heard his 'jokes'. Didn't laugh. Didn't smile. You could smell the jerk-ward callone of his through the TV. That look of his? That smug smile he gets like "oh yeah beetches I'm the best"? The one that he wears all the time? Yeah. Rubs me the wrong way a lot.

Conan (heck, no one for that matter) should have to suffer because some old fart with the humour of a bent teaspoon just wants to have a temper tantrum every time he is told to get off stage. Nothing should be moved for this f***tard.

*Duke* · 01-14-2010, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roseangelo

Except Conan isn't referring to ratings in his statement. He means the actual image of what The Tonight Show is. The Tonight Show is *the* staple late night talk show with a very deep and respected history. The Tonight Show is *not* a second string show that follows the wants and desires of another guy who refuses to see that his time has come and gone.

The only audience Leno is getting is the audience that hates change. Because Leno hasn't gone away, they haven't had to accept change. Take Leno away 100% and things will fall into place for Conan and The Tonight Show just fine.

I completely agree it's the staple of late night talk shows but I don't see how a 30 minute time slot changes that. I love Conan and don't find Leno funny. The only two things I really laugh at that Jay does are Headlines and Jay Walking and neither of those really have anything to do with Leno’s humor. I'd be completely fine with Leno disappearing from television altogether. But I don't necessarily think NBC is screwing Conan on this. It is a business after all. When Leno left the Tonight Show it had the best ratings of any late night show. Since Conan took over that’s not the case. Do I think they should give Conan more time to transition and build up his base? Yes. Do I think putting Jay back at 11:35 will suddenly mean the Jay Leno Show will have huge ratings and compete with David Letterman again? No. But NBC is a failing network and it has the right to make decisions that it thinks are in the best interest of the network as a whole. I may not agree with them, you may not agree with them, heck even Conan may not agree with them but it doesn’t necessarily mean NBC is doing anything wrong. All they ever promised Conan in his contract was the Tonight Show and that's what he has. Nowhere in his contract does it state he gets the 11:35 EST time slot. It says he gets to be the host of the Tonight Show and they aren’t trying to take that away from him. Plus even if he quits the tonight show, his contract wouldn’t even allow him to move his show to Fox right away. NBC has all the power in this situation and they know it. Is it fair? Probably not, but it’s the way things work.

*Bry* · 01-14-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Duke

I completely agree it's the staple of late night talk shows but I don't see how a 30 minute time slot changes that.

Because, as David Letterman and many others have noted, after midnight it's not "The Tonight Show" anymore - it's "The Tomorrow Morning Show". The show has directly followed affiliate news since its inception, and the idea of messing with that institution just to appease Leno's ego is unthinkable to a lot of people - especially Conan, who seems to be the only person at NBC who actually cares about the show.

*Roseangelo* · 01-14-2010, 02:20 PM

I went to The Tonight Show site last night to look at ticket info and requested a ticket for the only date they had still open before the Feb. 12 Winter Olympics deadline, which was Feb. 10. Today I got an e-mail confirming the ticket, so if he hangs on that long I'm there.

However, I've been reading that next week may be his last week if things keep going the way they seem to be.

It looks like they had a planned week off for Jan. 25-29, so that might play into it. Arg.

Newton Gimmick · 01-14-2010, 02:42 PM

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*Duke* · 01-14-2010, 03:50 PM

Well if this is true, then I now officially think Conan got screwed. Although, I do think his unwillingness to accept the time slot shift played into this.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 01-14-2010, 04:02 PM

Then NBC can officially rot in hell. However many more days Conan sticks it out will the be last days I ever watch NBC. Burn in hell Jeff Zucker you *****u*ker.

*The Stryker* · 01-14-2010, 04:42 PM

Overreact much?

愛 · 01-14-2010, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stryker

Overreact much?

You don't really know TMB, do you?

01-13-2010, 01:23 AM	#22
Shredder Admin/Layton Apprentice Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Isla Nublar Posts: 481	This really sucks...I've been a fan of Conan's for years and have really enjoyed him on the Tonight Show. Now it's looking more and more like he won't be on TV anywhere (at least for now). I don't really get this whole thing. Why did Leno leave the Tonight Show in the first place if he wasn't serious about retiring? Shouldn't Leno be the one who has to look for a new place to take his show since his show was the one canceled due to low ratings? I hope things somehow work out, but this isn't looking good... __________________ "Well, actually, I always wanted to be a writer. Being a ruthless conqueror was my second choice." --Shredder, Take Me to Your Leader

01-13-2010, 03:26 AM	#23
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	NBC is a goddamn mad house run by arrogant mother***ers that are more ignorant than a mega-bank CEO. Conan O'Brien is the funniest guy on TV, bar NONE. He's been making me laugh for most of my good years, and a little bit before that. Jay Leno is a tired old sack of stale humor that just want to win. He doesn't care the cost. He just wants to win. Period. He's terrible in every way. He's a terrible comic, he's a terrible host, he's a terrible writer, and he's a terrible person. Conan's humor at the end of the day has gotten me through some rough stuff when I needed it. The thought of not having him on TV because some arrogant bastard at NBC decided to do something crazy to compensate for his tiny penis is depressing as hell to me. That network deserves to burn in hell. Slowly. I consider myself a loyal person. If they're going to drive Conan out for Leno's retiree audience, I'll never watch that network again. Not even for 30 Rock. Ever. I know a lot of folks who share my sentiment. We grew up with Conan. They take away my Conan, and I unplug the TV from the cable box. He's about the last thing that the TV gets any use for that isn't a video game. I'll stop now because I could go on flaming all night at this point. NBC: Nothing But Crap. Burn in HELL you pieces of sht. __________________

01-13-2010, 08:01 AM	#24
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	Damn, I haven't seen TMB like this since the Twilight Princess delay. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

01-13-2010, 05:29 PM	#28
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	Bingo. And the other thing people don't realize, is that this isn't the first time a situation like this has happened. Back in 1962, Jack Parr decided to leave the Tonight Show. He retired because of the five night a week workload. Then after Johnny took over, Parr changed his mind and NBC gave him a prime-time talk show. It eventually tanked, and NBC stuck with Johnny Carson. Gee, I wonder how that turned out for them? __________________

01-13-2010, 10:53 PM	#32
Ra It's my desire? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In your pants. Posts: 4,441	...what? Just... what? Granted, I don't follow NBC and what-not since it doesn't really affect anyone here in my rock of the world but just... what?! Okay. I have to get this off my chest: I absoultely hate Leno. Can't stand him ever since the first time I heard his 'jokes'. Didn't laugh. Didn't smile. You could smell the jerk-ward callone of his through the TV. That look of his? That smug smile he gets like "oh yeah beetches I'm the best"? The one that he wears all the time? Yeah. Rubs me the wrong way a lot. Conan (heck, no one for that matter) should have to suffer because some old fart with the humour of a bent teaspoon just wants to have a temper tantrum every time he is told to get off stage. Nothing should be moved for this f**tard. __________________ "So. The whole lot of you against little old me? How retarded."*

01-13-2010, 12:02 AM	#21
MrPliggins Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,051	Man..this does stink..now the Tonight Show's going to go back to "same old...". Jay Leno has worn out his welcome, many times over.

01-13-2010, 10:43 AM	#25
Roseangelo Emperor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 9,120	Jimmy Kimmel last night: If you click over to YouTube there are more clips.

01-13-2010, 01:44 PM	#26
Duke Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,913	I completely understand Conan's position of not wanting to accept a time change for the Tonight Show. However, I actually think he's completely wrong in believing a time slot change will be the death of the Tonight Show. I actually think it would do wonders for his ratings. Right now he's competing against something that neither Letterman nor Leno really had to do. He's competing against the Colbert Report. Letterman and Leno weren't really trying to grab up the demographic of Colbert Nation but that's right up Conan's alley. By accepting a Timeslot change to 12:05 EST, he should be capable of grabbing the Stewart/Colbert demographic as both those shows are over. I don't really see loyal Conan followers suddenly switching to Letterman either. They might prefer the Letterman opening monolog to watching the Jay Leno show for 30 minutes but I’m pretty positive Team Conan will be just as likely to watch at 12:05 am as they are at 11:35 pm.

01-13-2010, 10:14 PM	#31
Guitar_Raph Superhero musician Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 2,191	Impersonating another talk show host on another network (CBS), I have my own Top 10! ERRORS NBC HAS MADE (Mikey plays snare drum roll) 10). Have Saturday Today replace Saturday morning cartoons. 9). The XFL. 8]. Losing the Belmont & Breeder's Cup to ABC (horse racing). 7). Losing the NFL to CBS back in 1998. If they had kept the AFC Sunday games, the Houston Texans would've blayed regularly on NBC. Now they're the only AFC team never to have played on NBC (along with San Francisco, Detroit & St. Louis for the NFC). 6). Baseball. Costas would love to have the national pasttime back not since 2000. Maybe the Blue Jays will play a network game since 1993 on CBS. 5). Having Days of Our Lives as the sole survivor of NBC Daytime. 4). Back in 2000, rumors Concentration would be back after the Sydney Olympics, but has 3rd hour of Today Show instead to stab game show fans in the back (and it would've been on my birthday). 3). Anne Robinson, you are the Weakest Link, good-bye! 2). Jay Leno getting his way. (Mikey stops) And the #1 answer is... (Ex-Cel plays tympani drumroll) SCREWING CONAN O'BRIEN!!! (Ex-Cel stops)

01-14-2010, 02:20 PM	#35
Roseangelo Emperor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 9,120	I went to The Tonight Show site last night to look at ticket info and requested a ticket for the only date they had still open before the Feb. 12 Winter Olympics deadline, which was Feb. 10. Today I got an e-mail confirming the ticket, so if he hangs on that long I'm there. However, I've been reading that next week may be his last week if things keep going the way they seem to be. It looks like they had a planned week off for Jan. 25-29, so that might play into it. Arg.

01-14-2010, 02:42 PM	#36
Newton Gimmick Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,154	VIVA LA CONEBONE! Join the Revolution and fight the chin... Badges, we don't need no stinkin' badges! Yes you do! Infinite Hollywood: Join the Revolution - Team Coco Badges

01-14-2010, 03:50 PM	#37
Duke Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,913	Well if this is true, then I now officially think Conan got screwed. Although, I do think his unwillingness to accept the time slot shift played into this.

01-14-2010, 04:02 PM	#38
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	Then NBC can officially rot in hell. However many more days Conan sticks it out will the be last days I ever watch NBC. Burn in hell Jeff Zucker you ****uker. __________________

01-14-2010, 04:42 PM	#39
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	Overreact much? __________________ @~<3 Mom~@