Do you ever think about the little kids growing up with TMNT now?

*CyberCubed* · 02-03-2010, 12:18 PM

Something that a lot of us don't really think about, is that there was a whole new generation of kids that were first exposed to Turtles via 4kids TMNT 2k3 series and/or the Imagi 4th movie.

Most of us here are the old veteran fans from the 80's and 90's who grew up during the original TMNT fad, back when TMNT was a worldwide phenomenon and grew up with the original stuff.

Do you think the new generation of TMNT fans will have completely different views on the franchise than us older fans? Most of the original cartoon is out on DVD, as well as the original live-action movies, so its not like the older stuff isn't available for them. When they get older they'll likely discover the comics, and if they're still available by then, will probably get into those.

Do you ever think about how different it would be if you did not grow up with the original TMNT fad from the late 80's and 90's? I actually hope these kids age a few years and come into the fandom, just to see how their views are different than our own.

*Powder* · 02-03-2010, 01:53 PM

I see alot of the younger fans say that they hate or really dont like the original toon. I'll check out videos of the 2k3 toon on youtube from time to time that feature a funny clip or something & see comments like 'I borrowed one of the old vhs tapes from my older brother. I couldnt get passed the first five minutes. The jokes sucked the animation was horrible etc'

Those kind of comments piss me off a little... I do understand them though. In this age of technology the little brats cant expect anything but the latest & greatest. I think it must be especially hard for the turtles ( & other comic rooted franchises alike ) to really flourish because kids these days live in a digital world. It seems toys are replaced by xbox, comics by google & other websites, sports by wii (you know what I mean), dogs by robot dogs etc. They dont want action figures & comics and stuff like that. As far as cartoons go, kids now sleep late as hell on saturdays & probably dont find many things action packed enough due to their moral-less parents letting them go see bloody movies at age 10.

Growing up on the OT was great because it taught you something most of the time. The new show is great too, dont even get me wrong. For the kids who grew up on the new show and/or new movie, the TMNT will be a passing thing. They probably already stopped caring long before turtles forever. With so many other forms of entertainment (ya know games & youtube blah blah blah) the modern turtles probably dont stand a chance with them. I dont doubt there may very well be some kids who disliked it for being too serious aswell. In that case, its another passing interest.

I highly doubt the majority of those who were raised by 2k3 will ever come back to the franchise as a whole unless they had the same love for it that we've had for the OT. I'm sure there are some out there, but none too many. If anything the only ones who take it that serious were jusssttt barely the right age to say 'I think my older brother used to watch it so now I get to see it!' Know what I mean?

Anyhow, we're the lucky ones.

*CyberCubed* · 02-03-2010, 02:20 PM

Yeah that's what I thought. We didn't even have the internet in the early 90's! No DVDs either!

I think that's why toy companies are complaining that kids, "grow up too fast" nowadays, because they move onto the computer at like 7 or 8 when back in the old days we were still playing with our action figures.

I do agree some of those kids probably feel like they outgrew Turtles after the show ended and won't come back to it or grow interested in any other part of the franchise.

I just get the feeling it would be nice if, much like Star Trek, Batman, and other long-lasting properties, each series brought in a new generation of fans that stuck around.

*Andrew NDB* · 02-03-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

due to their moral-less parents letting them go see bloody movies at age 10.

They don't make bloody movies anymore, really. When they do it's like a big thing now.

My parents never molly-coddled me from R rated movies or anything when I was a little kid and I've always respected them for that. I don't find anything morally suspect about that.

*Scandia* · 02-03-2010, 07:23 PM

Some of the things that show up in the 2k3 cartoon that kids today take for granted were pipedreams back in the days of the OT.

Unfortunately, something that may have shown up in the OT is no longer available

*ToTheNines* · 02-03-2010, 08:15 PM

I'm generalizing here... but kids thees days really aren't into this kinda stuff. I'm not saying I see kids being more mature, but I do see/hear of kids getting cell phones, lap tops, and other **** alot earlier than I believe they should. So cartoons/comics because uncool alot quicker.

Examples. My cousin is 14 right now, which means he was 7 when the NT came out. He watched season 1 religiously and watched seasons 2 and 3 occaisionally before quitting altogether. Now he's back into TMNT because his 25 year old basketball coach is a fan and I have so much TMNT media for him to check out.

My other cousins are in 5th and 3rd grade right now, so while they were too young to follow the NT from the start, they could have jumped on board any time and they did love TMNT 07 when I took them to see it. As young as they are, you'd think they still watch cartoons... wrong. They make fun of me for watching cartoons, and all they do for fun play/follow sports. Not saying there's anything wrong with that, I love sports myself, but they have the "cartoons are for kids" mentality, while they are kids themselves. So I doubt there will be many followers coming out of their age group.

*The Stryker* · 02-03-2010, 08:20 PM

My 4 year old niece hated the first movie and the 2k3 show but LOVED Secret of the Ooze.

*ToTheNines* · 02-03-2010, 08:27 PM

Yeah, every one's different. But I'm just saying, I don't think alot of hardcore fans are going to come out of said generation.

Ra · 02-03-2010, 08:39 PM

I'm not sure, in all honesty. Kids will be kids and have different tastes. When I was growing up, my friend loved S-Club 7 and Saved By the Bell. I loved Looney Toons. Yet we still hung out.

I'm with Nines in saying there won't be many hardcore fans coming out of this. I mean... heck, kids now have mobile phones. I saw a six year old girl with a working one. I saw eleven year olds at the dentist looking on Facebook to talk to their friends. This generation is going to be more social I think. Anyone who likes cartoons or things that aren't social won't be looked upon kindly.

Still... it's all in my head. I'd like to sit back and see what unfolds for the next ten years, yeah?

lilmotto · 02-03-2010, 09:24 PM

Yeah I am not sure what to think either. The mentality of it all has drastically changed from most of our generations to the current one. Just a couple of weeks ago my little cousin came over for a family birthday party (he is 7 I believe) so I watched some Cartoon network videos with him on my laptop to pass the time. The younger girl cousins that were there (10ish) mocked me for watching the cartoons with them saying that I am to old for that and I am weird. The thing is cartoons are not the booming force they were when we were kids. Look at Cartoon Network for example they have live action shows. CARTOON network has live action. I love cartoons as much as the next guy but clearly they are not what they used to be. The number of shows seems to be decreasing but I think overall the quality is going up. So it isn't bad all around at least I don't think so. Plus with the superhero boom that is going on thanks to hollywood I think cartoons and comics are considered more acceptable presently. Just my 2 cents.

*Koi* · 02-03-2010, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

As far as cartoons go, kids now sleep late as hell on saturdays & probably dont find many things action packed enough due to their moral-less parents letting them go see bloody movies at age 10.

Dude, I'm like 17 and my mom won't even let me (for the most part) watch pg-13 movies, if you ask me our generation is just more sheltered.

*The Stryker* · 02-03-2010, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Drawsher

Dude, I'm like 17 and my mom won't even let me (for the most part) watch pg-13 movies, if you ask me our generation is just more sheltered.

I think YOU are the one that's sheltered.

*Ninjinister* · 02-03-2010, 10:46 PM

As long as the youngin's are interested in any aspect of the series, I'm good.

*Powder* · 02-04-2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Drawsher

Dude, I'm like 17 and my mom won't even let me (for the most part) watch pg-13 movies, if you ask me our generation is just more sheltered.

Christianity is it?

*The Stryker* · 02-04-2010, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ninjinister

As long as the youngin's are interested in any aspect of the series, I'm good.

That's how I feel too. You're doing something right when you can hook fans at a young age and keep them around.

*Raph's Girl* · 02-04-2010, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Drawsher

Dude, I'm like 17 and my mom won't even let me (for the most part) watch pg-13 movies, if you ask me our generation is just more sheltered.

Geesh. My dad dragged me to my first rated R movie when I was 7 (my mom blocked my eyes on the parts she deemed not for my eyes *lol*). That movie was Robocop....

As for the younger generation. Im lucky to have much younger cousins so I've been able to see the younger generation's reaction to TMNT. My entire family are fans. I have neighbors who are fans (there's a 12 yr old in my complex who's a fan of the new stuff but Im not sure if he's seen the original.). Some of my cousins like the original series, some don't. That's just how the way the world is. *shrugs*

*Cure* · 02-04-2010, 08:18 PM

I went to R rated movies with my parents as a kid, too. I'm not the only one f my friends that have experiences like that, either.

But yeah, I don't think one generation of kids is luckier than the other, so it's whatever.

*Coola Yagami* · 02-04-2010, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Geesh. My dad dragged me to my first rated R movie when I was 7 (my mom blocked my eyes on the parts she deemed not for my eyes *lol*). That movie was Robocop....

I remember as a kid laughing when Robocop shot the guy in the balls. LOL

*shuriken* · 02-04-2010, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I remember as a kid laughing when Robocop shot the guy in the balls. LOL

Robocop was amazing. I thought that when I was 8 the first time I saw it, and I still think that now. Ijust remember Remember Red Foreman screaming what the hell as robocop kicks his ass.
IDK about kids following the TMNT. There is still a huge fandom, of small children. But once the become 12 it's like putting on a sweater vest, you just don't do it. But I agree that cartoons aren't what they used to be. I remember every day after school I used to rush home and see TMNT at 4 on USA network. Then they stopped when I was like 7. After that I watched foxkids... then that stopped. Then Kids WB...until all that was left was toon Disney and Cartoon Network... sad.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 02-05-2010, 04:56 AM

I think kids today aren't into a Franchise for so many years in a row now as 20 years ago. Today's Internet culture starts more trends, soon they will be gone, and replaced with another trends.

02-03-2010, 12:18 PM	#1
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	Do you ever think about the little kids growing up with TMNT now? Something that a lot of us don't really think about, is that there was a whole new generation of kids that were first exposed to Turtles via 4kids TMNT 2k3 series and/or the Imagi 4th movie. Most of us here are the old veteran fans from the 80's and 90's who grew up during the original TMNT fad, back when TMNT was a worldwide phenomenon and grew up with the original stuff. Do you think the new generation of TMNT fans will have completely different views on the franchise than us older fans? Most of the original cartoon is out on DVD, as well as the original live-action movies, so its not like the older stuff isn't available for them. When they get older they'll likely discover the comics, and if they're still available by then, will probably get into those. Do you ever think about how different it would be if you did not grow up with the original TMNT fad from the late 80's and 90's? I actually hope these kids age a few years and come into the fandom, just to see how their views are different than our own.

02-03-2010, 07:23 PM	#5
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	Some of the things that show up in the 2k3 cartoon that kids today take for granted were pipedreams back in the days of the OT. Unfortunately, something that may have shown up in the OT is no longer available __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

02-03-2010, 08:20 PM	#7
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	My 4 year old niece hated the first movie and the 2k3 show but LOVED Secret of the Ooze. __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

02-03-2010, 08:39 PM	#9
Ra It's my desire? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In your pants. Posts: 4,441	I'm not sure, in all honesty. Kids will be kids and have different tastes. When I was growing up, my friend loved S-Club 7 and Saved By the Bell. I loved Looney Toons. Yet we still hung out. I'm with Nines in saying there won't be many hardcore fans coming out of this. I mean... heck, kids now have mobile phones. I saw a six year old girl with a working one. I saw eleven year olds at the dentist looking on Facebook to talk to their friends. This generation is going to be more social I think. Anyone who likes cartoons or things that aren't social won't be looked upon kindly. Still... it's all in my head. I'd like to sit back and see what unfolds for the next ten years, yeah? __________________ "So. The whole lot of you against little old me? How retarded."

02-03-2010, 09:24 PM	#10
lilmotto Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 813	Yeah I am not sure what to think either. The mentality of it all has drastically changed from most of our generations to the current one. Just a couple of weeks ago my little cousin came over for a family birthday party (he is 7 I believe) so I watched some Cartoon network videos with him on my laptop to pass the time. The younger girl cousins that were there (10ish) mocked me for watching the cartoons with them saying that I am to old for that and I am weird. The thing is cartoons are not the booming force they were when we were kids. Look at Cartoon Network for example they have live action shows. CARTOON network has live action. I love cartoons as much as the next guy but clearly they are not what they used to be. The number of shows seems to be decreasing but I think overall the quality is going up. So it isn't bad all around at least I don't think so. Plus with the superhero boom that is going on thanks to hollywood I think cartoons and comics are considered more acceptable presently. Just my 2 cents. __________________ I list items on ebay frequently: http://shop.ebay.com/lilmotto/m.html...1&_from=&_ipg=

02-03-2010, 01:53 PM	#2
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,955	I see alot of the younger fans say that they hate or really dont like the original toon. I'll check out videos of the 2k3 toon on youtube from time to time that feature a funny clip or something & see comments like 'I borrowed one of the old vhs tapes from my older brother. I couldnt get passed the first five minutes. The jokes sucked the animation was horrible etc' Those kind of comments piss me off a little... I do understand them though. In this age of technology the little brats cant expect anything but the latest & greatest. I think it must be especially hard for the turtles ( & other comic rooted franchises alike ) to really flourish because kids these days live in a digital world. It seems toys are replaced by xbox, comics by google & other websites, sports by wii (you know what I mean), dogs by robot dogs etc. They dont want action figures & comics and stuff like that. As far as cartoons go, kids now sleep late as hell on saturdays & probably dont find many things action packed enough due to their moral-less parents letting them go see bloody movies at age 10. Growing up on the OT was great because it taught you something most of the time. The new show is great too, dont even get me wrong. For the kids who grew up on the new show and/or new movie, the TMNT will be a passing thing. They probably already stopped caring long before turtles forever. With so many other forms of entertainment (ya know games & youtube blah blah blah) the modern turtles probably dont stand a chance with them. I dont doubt there may very well be some kids who disliked it for being too serious aswell. In that case, its another passing interest. I highly doubt the majority of those who were raised by 2k3 will ever come back to the franchise as a whole unless they had the same love for it that we've had for the OT. I'm sure there are some out there, but none too many. If anything the only ones who take it that serious were jusssttt barely the right age to say 'I think my older brother used to watch it so now I get to see it!' Know what I mean? Anyhow, we're the lucky ones.

02-03-2010, 02:20 PM	#3
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	Yeah that's what I thought. We didn't even have the internet in the early 90's! No DVDs either! I think that's why toy companies are complaining that kids, "grow up too fast" nowadays, because they move onto the computer at like 7 or 8 when back in the old days we were still playing with our action figures. I do agree some of those kids probably feel like they outgrew Turtles after the show ended and won't come back to it or grow interested in any other part of the franchise. I just get the feeling it would be nice if, much like Star Trek, Batman, and other long-lasting properties, each series brought in a new generation of fans that stuck around.

02-03-2010, 08:15 PM	#6
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,357	I'm generalizing here... but kids thees days really aren't into this kinda stuff. I'm not saying I see kids being more mature, but I do see/hear of kids getting cell phones, lap tops, and other **** alot earlier than I believe they should. So cartoons/comics because uncool alot quicker. Examples. My cousin is 14 right now, which means he was 7 when the NT came out. He watched season 1 religiously and watched seasons 2 and 3 occaisionally before quitting altogether. Now he's back into TMNT because his 25 year old basketball coach is a fan and I have so much TMNT media for him to check out. My other cousins are in 5th and 3rd grade right now, so while they were too young to follow the NT from the start, they could have jumped on board any time and they did love TMNT 07 when I took them to see it. As young as they are, you'd think they still watch cartoons... wrong. They make fun of me for watching cartoons, and all they do for fun play/follow sports. Not saying there's anything wrong with that, I love sports myself, but they have the "cartoons are for kids" mentality, while they are kids themselves. So I doubt there will be many followers coming out of their age group.

02-03-2010, 08:27 PM	#8
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,357	Yeah, every one's different. But I'm just saying, I don't think alot of hardcore fans are going to come out of said generation.

02-03-2010, 10:46 PM	#13
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	As long as the youngin's are interested in any aspect of the series, I'm good. __________________

02-04-2010, 08:18 PM	#17
Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	I went to R rated movies with my parents as a kid, too. I'm not the only one f my friends that have experiences like that, either. But yeah, I don't think one generation of kids is luckier than the other, so it's whatever. __________________

02-05-2010, 04:56 AM	#20
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,481	Franchise I think kids today aren't into a Franchise for so many years in a row now as 20 years ago. Today's Internet culture starts more trends, soon they will be gone, and replaced with another trends.