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Old 02-26-2010, 06:33 AM   #1
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So I just beat Heavy Rain...

And it would have been one of my favorite games of the year if the plot wasnt SO UTTERLY BROKEN. I wont get into spoilers here but man... You could drop planets in those plot holes.

That being said, it was a very enjoyable, unique game.
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Old 02-26-2010, 11:13 AM   #2
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I was thinking about making this exact thread yesterday. I can only describe this game as a letdown. I wasn't a big fan of the controls tho I already knew that from the demo and the story really doesn't seem to make any sense at all. I also had some sound-glitches a couple of times. White noise or out of sync dialogue.

I really liked this game quite a bit while I was still in the middle of it. It has some great set pieces and with impressive cinematic flair. It's a real what shame it builds up ends up making it more frustrating. I hope they can salvage the engine and use it to make something else because there is so much potential there to be explored.
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Old 02-26-2010, 11:15 AM   #3
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Today I saw a video of an interactive sex scene in that game and I have to say that kind of sh*t ist totally creepy.
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Old 02-27-2010, 02:15 AM   #4
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I wouldn't call it a complete letdown... At times it was fantastic. And one of the choices I had to make left me feeling uneasy for hours. Its just a shame that for a game which soley focuses on the story doesn't have a coherent plot to go with it.
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Old 02-27-2010, 11:14 AM   #5
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Did any of you get the version where there are segments in which you play the killer? Or is that just in the normal game anyway? (I read that the killer levels were in the CE)
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Old 02-28-2010, 01:33 AM   #6
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I still can't find the damn game. Everywhere is sold out.
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Old 02-28-2010, 02:43 AM   #7
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Did any of you get the version where there are segments in which you play the killer? Or is that just in the normal game anyway? (I read that the killer levels were in the CE)
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In every version of the game you play as the killer
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Old 02-28-2010, 10:06 AM   #8
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I just finished the game a few minutes ago. Seems it ended right when it was starting to pick up steam.

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The plot twist about the killer's identity made no f*cking sense and almost ruined the game for me. There were a lot of other problems with the story, but that was the worst one. Hated it so much.

Apart from the flawed story there were some technical issues (sh*tty movement controls, screen tearing, sound glitches) that got in the way, but overall I still have to say it was one of the most intense and unique games I've ever played. Having to cut off your own finger was some heavy stuff. I also went through the whole game without any sex or nudity.
I think Heavy Rain is definitely a very experimental game and while it didn't entirely pay off, I'm happy the developers were willing to take some risks and I'm glad to have played it.
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Old 03-02-2010, 04:43 AM   #9
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There were tons of plot holes. Where was Ethan during his black outs? Why was he waking up with origami in his hands? Why was the killer investigating his own case? Why does he ask himself questions in his head that he already knows the answers to? Why was Madison so shocked to find out its Shelby when he's never met her? How does she know where he lives? Why did Ethan believe that he was still the killer when he needed to do something in front of a camera that clearly needed to be monitored?
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:22 AM   #10
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Why was the killer investigating his own case?
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While it was never explicitly stated, I think Shelby was trying to cover his tracks by retreading them as a detective. That's fair enough I think. The others, especially the his internal thoughts, are just examples of sloppy and careless bits of writing tho. Some of these things make it seem like they made the story up as they went along.

The fact that they added games into the ARI when it's a tool that can kill you if you use it too often made me laugh too.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:08 AM   #11
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I think Shelby was trying to get rid of evidence (even though he was responsible for leaving it in the first place?) and trying to find the other killer (one of the boys was killed by Kramer, not Shelby). It still doesn't make much sense though, and I hate how the game has to outright lie to the player in order to facilitate the plot twist.

What was up with the ARI thing? I didn't know how to complete the research at the end, so I "gave up" (I thought I was supposed to).
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Old 03-04-2010, 05:48 AM   #12
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I was thinking about getting Heavy Rain when I go home for Spring Break, so I watched a few videos of people playing it. So far, the game seems pretty boring. Does the story pick up later, or...?
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The story is ultimately disappointing, but the game is far from boring; in some ways it's one of the most exciting games I've ever played.
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Old 03-04-2010, 06:31 AM   #14
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Okay, that is good to know. I'm a big fan of Shenmue, so I can expect this to be like that. Thanks!
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Old 03-04-2010, 09:59 AM   #15
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I don't get the hype about this game, from what I've seen it's pretty much the same as Quantic Dream's last game Fahrenheit/Indigo Prophecy, i.e. kind of exciting but ultimately disappointing/convoluted/stupid as far as the story is concerned and dull and boring gameplay-wise.
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Old 03-04-2010, 11:18 AM   #16
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I know this sounds like a huge cop-out, but I really don't think this is a game you can judge by watching someone else play it. You have to play it for yourself to find out whether it's your thing or not.
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Old 03-04-2010, 12:59 PM   #17
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Yeah but to all of you who played Fahrenheit/Indigo Prophecy, isn't this game pretty much exactly the same? (The plot seems less sh*tty but still.) I really enjoyed that game but towards the end it just pissed me off.
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Old 03-04-2010, 02:19 PM   #18
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Heavy Rain refined it a little by having fewer inputs and the supernatural aspects are toned down. But yes they are ultimately still pretty similar in style and feel. The game's lasting impression will rely heavily on how much you likes the story and presentation.

It's hard to review it as a video game so you might want to check it out for yourself once it's gone down in price on the condition that you don't know who the killer is yet.
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