What would you have liked the OT do?

*sdp* · 03-02-2010, 10:11 PM

So, what would you have liked the OT done with some plots/characters etc. Of course within the limits of the show, something that could have actually have happened in the run and not entirely changing it like saying "I would have liked every season to be like season 1" or "I would have liked them to kill slash" and whatnot.

Like I would have liked to have seen Usagi in another episode and finally get home. Why else would they set it up and not bring him home in the episode he was introduced?

I would have also liked to have seen more stuff from the toyline incorporated like mutants/villains and vehicles. The show was always about toys so why not show some of the cooler villains/mutants/vehicles in the actual show? Mutagen made the perfect excuse to have a ton of mutants and would have been more enjoyable than mad scientist of the week.

Also originally they were supposed to find a cure for Master Splinter, it was their main goal, heck even in the first videogame that is what the ending is, Splinter becoming human. It would have been nice to have that happen in the final episode. I guess you can use as an excuse that Splinter didn't want to be human after that S2 episode were he becomes human for a while...

Haven't finished watching all of the OT, so I don't know which villains didn't get good closure etc to add more.

*CyberCubed* · 03-02-2010, 11:04 PM

I thought General Traag and the Rock Soldiers were very underused. I always thought eventually there was going to be a big war-like confrontation with the Turtles having to fight off Krang's army, but aside from some scenes here and there, it didn't happen as much as I would have liked.

Some characters should have appeared a lot more, like Casey Jones, Mondo Gecko, Leatherhead, Slash, Rahzar/Tokka, etc.

Really, the thing it boils down to most is a lot of the recurring bad guys have only a handful of appearances each. Most eps were Shredder/Krang or a generic mad scientist, whereas they had a whole bunch of other villains that needed more appearances.

*Coola Yagami* · 03-02-2010, 11:08 PM

None of the villians besides Shredder, Krang and Dregg got any closure. I would have liked an ep where Baxter finally returned human, where Usagi finally went home.... maybe another Lotus ep, more eps with Mondo Gecko and Mona Lisa. I dunno.... I would have liked more mutants but the later line of mutants were pretty lame...

*CyberCubed* · 03-02-2010, 11:09 PM

Baxter got closure, he got trapped in dimensional limbo again in his final appearance.

*sdp* · 03-02-2010, 11:26 PM

It makes you wonder why they didn't use mutants and recurring villains more often. Every kid loved the different villains so what was the point of having so many random mad scientists? You can at least understand that Shredder/Krang were the main bad guys and it was playing it safe by having them but the oneshot villains while they could have used more appealing villains not to mention of characters who actually had toys...Heck I would have preferred to have seen that one alien that talked like Pee Wee Herman ;D

Yeah I forgot about rocksoldiers not being used that often, that was dumb. Even regular footsoldiers were underused, I was surprised by how little they actually appear. Kind of dumb since they were robots they were easy fodder to have the turtles fight instead of tripping rockesteady/beebop for the hundredth time.

*Cipher* · 03-03-2010, 12:56 AM

I second the feelings here about not using the villains enough. The Fred-Wolf cartoon had one of the best rogues galleries the Turtles have ever seen, yet they were lucky to get two episodes at most. Even Leatherhead, who was a top-tier villain, only got three episodes and a cameo, and all of them were shared with a co-starring bad guy.

The hell with that. Baxter, the Rat King, Leatherhead, Groundchuck and Dirtbag, Slash, several one-off mutants, all of them were perfectly capable of carrying an episode by themselves, and certainly more often than they did.

*CyberCubed* · 03-03-2010, 11:00 AM

When watching the OT I always got excited when there was another mutant in the episode. Since so many eps are about Shredder/Krang or mad scientists, seeing another mutant in an episode felt like a change of pace.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 03-03-2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sdp

Even regular footsoldiers were underused, I was surprised by how little they actually appear. Kind of dumb since they were robots they were easy fodder to have the turtles fight instead of tripping rockesteady/beebop for the hundredth time.

Especially in season 2. Season 2 had no Foot soldiers until "Return of the Technodrome", when an entire army was sent back to Earth in a spacecraft.

Spacebabie · 03-03-2010, 12:42 PM

I would have loved to see some more of the mutant enemies get used, but I also would have loved to see more of Casey, Lotus and Mona.

*Cipher* · 03-03-2010, 03:08 PM

I was just thinking about this again, and I would also liked to have seen more Mirage characters make the cut. We got Leatherhead, Rat King, and the Triceratons after all.

But there's absolutely no reason why Savanti Romero (goat mutant, anyone?), Renet, Complete Carnage, and Radical couldn't have been revamped for the cartoon. Lord knows they'd have been more interesting than some of the original characters. And part of me wonders how the Saturday morning versions woud have played out.

*CyberCubed* · 03-03-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cipher Classic

But there's absolutely no reason why Savanti Romero (goat mutant, anyone?),

They didn't even make a toy of Savanti back then, whereas they made Fugitoid.

I would have liked to see Fugitoid in the old toon too, there were a million other robots on the show.

*Scandia* · 03-03-2010, 07:18 PM

Have Karai show up. Perhaps as the villain after Shredder.

*Icebot* · 03-03-2010, 07:35 PM

For Season 9, I wanted to see Shredder and Krang continue to be the main villains instead of lord Dregg. I also would have liked to see a Season 11, with Shredder and Krang returning as the main villains.

*ToTheNines* · 03-03-2010, 09:42 PM

Definitely wish there was more actual battles with the Foot Soldiers and Rock Soldiers.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 03-04-2010, 07:03 AM

Take more inspirations from the Archie comics.

*CyberCubed* · 03-04-2010, 11:45 AM

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Take more inspirations from the Archie comics.

In the same manner, I'm disappointed Murphy cut all ties with the old toon characters.

We didn't see anything about Krang's Rock Soldier army in the comics after the episode-adaption issues. Baxter never turned into a fly in the Archie series either, he was just forgotten.

*ToTheNines* · 03-04-2010, 12:07 PM

He did bring back Sarnath though...

*Kendamu* · 03-04-2010, 01:02 PM

Well, you just limited me from saying, "I would've liked every season to be more like Season 1." So, in place of that, maybe Season 7 would be a good model. I just got kinda tired of the overused slapstick and wanted to see some real action once in awhile. The plots and stuff could'a stayed the same, really. Even the mad scientists and junk. Better climactic action scenes would be what would've made it better for me.

*CyberCubed* · 03-04-2010, 01:21 PM

You know if the Nick show re-uses the old toon format but makes it more action oriented, it could give us exactly what we all wanted here.

I doubt it'll be exactly the same, but if the Nick shows uses the mutants better, has more action scenes, and has some more continuous plots it'll be a great almost remake of the original toon.

I doubt it'll have the humor or 4th wall breaking, but everything else could be handled better.

themaxonline · 03-04-2010, 04:58 PM

I would have liked more of a continued storyline. To some degree, it is already but as we've seen, most of the episodes in the middle of the seasons (from 2-7) can almost be played anywhere and have it not matter. I'd like there to have been more of a consistent struggle in addition to episode-centric problems.

03-02-2010, 10:11 PM	#1
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,217	What would you have liked the OT do? So, what would you have liked the OT done with some plots/characters etc. Of course within the limits of the show, something that could have actually have happened in the run and not entirely changing it like saying "I would have liked every season to be like season 1" or "I would have liked them to kill slash" and whatnot. Like I would have liked to have seen Usagi in another episode and finally get home. Why else would they set it up and not bring him home in the episode he was introduced? I would have also liked to have seen more stuff from the toyline incorporated like mutants/villains and vehicles. The show was always about toys so why not show some of the cooler villains/mutants/vehicles in the actual show? Mutagen made the perfect excuse to have a ton of mutants and would have been more enjoyable than mad scientist of the week. Also originally they were supposed to find a cure for Master Splinter, it was their main goal, heck even in the first videogame that is what the ending is, Splinter becoming human. It would have been nice to have that happen in the final episode. I guess you can use as an excuse that Splinter didn't want to be human after that S2 episode were he becomes human for a while... Haven't finished watching all of the OT, so I don't know which villains didn't get good closure etc to add more. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

03-02-2010, 11:08 PM	#3
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,709	None of the villians besides Shredder, Krang and Dregg got any closure. I would have liked an ep where Baxter finally returned human, where Usagi finally went home.... maybe another Lotus ep, more eps with Mondo Gecko and Mona Lisa. I dunno.... I would have liked more mutants but the later line of mutants were pretty lame... __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

03-02-2010, 11:26 PM	#5
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,217	It makes you wonder why they didn't use mutants and recurring villains more often. Every kid loved the different villains so what was the point of having so many random mad scientists? You can at least understand that Shredder/Krang were the main bad guys and it was playing it safe by having them but the oneshot villains while they could have used more appealing villains not to mention of characters who actually had toys...Heck I would have preferred to have seen that one alien that talked like Pee Wee Herman ;D Yeah I forgot about rocksoldiers not being used that often, that was dumb. Even regular footsoldiers were underused, I was surprised by how little they actually appear. Kind of dumb since they were robots they were easy fodder to have the turtles fight instead of tripping rockesteady/beebop for the hundredth time. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

03-03-2010, 12:42 PM	#9
Spacebabie Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Conroe Texas Posts: 291	I would have loved to see some more of the mutant enemies get used, but I also would have loved to see more of Casey, Lotus and Mona. __________________ http://spacebabie.deviantart.com/ http://www.fanfiction.net/~spacebabie http://spacebabie.livejournal.com/

03-03-2010, 07:18 PM	#12
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	Have Karai show up. Perhaps as the villain after Shredder. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

03-02-2010, 11:04 PM	#2
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	I thought General Traag and the Rock Soldiers were very underused. I always thought eventually there was going to be a big war-like confrontation with the Turtles having to fight off Krang's army, but aside from some scenes here and there, it didn't happen as much as I would have liked. Some characters should have appeared a lot more, like Casey Jones, Mondo Gecko, Leatherhead, Slash, Rahzar/Tokka, etc. Really, the thing it boils down to most is a lot of the recurring bad guys have only a handful of appearances each. Most eps were Shredder/Krang or a generic mad scientist, whereas they had a whole bunch of other villains that needed more appearances.

03-02-2010, 11:09 PM	#4
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	Baxter got closure, he got trapped in dimensional limbo again in his final appearance.

03-03-2010, 12:56 AM	#6
Cipher Foot Elite Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,454	I second the feelings here about not using the villains enough. The Fred-Wolf cartoon had one of the best rogues galleries the Turtles have ever seen, yet they were lucky to get two episodes at most. Even Leatherhead, who was a top-tier villain, only got three episodes and a cameo, and all of them were shared with a co-starring bad guy. The hell with that. Baxter, the Rat King, Leatherhead, Groundchuck and Dirtbag, Slash, several one-off mutants, all of them were perfectly capable of carrying an episode by themselves, and certainly more often than they did.

03-03-2010, 11:00 AM	#7
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	When watching the OT I always got excited when there was another mutant in the episode. Since so many eps are about Shredder/Krang or mad scientists, seeing another mutant in an episode felt like a change of pace.

03-03-2010, 03:08 PM	#10
Cipher Foot Elite Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,454	I was just thinking about this again, and I would also liked to have seen more Mirage characters make the cut. We got Leatherhead, Rat King, and the Triceratons after all. But there's absolutely no reason why Savanti Romero (goat mutant, anyone?), Renet, Complete Carnage, and Radical couldn't have been revamped for the cartoon. Lord knows they'd have been more interesting than some of the original characters. And part of me wonders how the Saturday morning versions woud have played out.

03-03-2010, 07:35 PM	#13
Icebot Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 3,225	For Season 9, I wanted to see Shredder and Krang continue to be the main villains instead of lord Dregg. I also would have liked to see a Season 11, with Shredder and Krang returning as the main villains.

03-03-2010, 09:42 PM	#14
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,358	Definitely wish there was more actual battles with the Foot Soldiers and Rock Soldiers.

03-04-2010, 07:03 AM	#15
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,481	Archie comics Take more inspirations from the Archie comics.

03-04-2010, 12:07 PM	#17
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,358	He did bring back Sarnath though...

03-04-2010, 01:02 PM	#18
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	Well, you just limited me from saying, "I would've liked every season to be more like Season 1." So, in place of that, maybe Season 7 would be a good model. I just got kinda tired of the overused slapstick and wanted to see some real action once in awhile. The plots and stuff could'a stayed the same, really. Even the mad scientists and junk. Better climactic action scenes would be what would've made it better for me.

03-04-2010, 01:21 PM	#19
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	You know if the Nick show re-uses the old toon format but makes it more action oriented, it could give us exactly what we all wanted here. I doubt it'll be exactly the same, but if the Nick shows uses the mutants better, has more action scenes, and has some more continuous plots it'll be a great almost remake of the original toon. I doubt it'll have the humor or 4th wall breaking, but everything else could be handled better.

03-04-2010, 04:58 PM	#20
themaxonline Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 278	I would have liked more of a continued storyline. To some degree, it is already but as we've seen, most of the episodes in the middle of the seasons (from 2-7) can almost be played anywhere and have it not matter. I'd like there to have been more of a consistent struggle in addition to episode-centric problems.