Bebop and Rocksteady

(DC) · 03-07-2010, 07:02 PM

Which one is stronger? Which one is Smarter? Which one is your favorite? Should they be brought back or were the references to them in the 2003 toon enough?

*Scandia* · 03-07-2010, 07:13 PM

Good question. I guess they are equally stupid in different ways.

It's not like Beavis and Butt-head, where Butt-head is marginally more intelligent than Beavis, even though both are very dumb.

*Samhain* · 03-07-2010, 07:31 PM

Not much to say about them. I happen to think Rocksteady is a tad smarter than Bebop only because to me, he sounds a little smarter when he speaks. Other than that they are both idiots.

And brought back where? For Nostalgia maybe. But Fred Wolf Films owns the rights I believe so yeah.

*Coola Yagami* · 03-07-2010, 07:32 PM

What I notice was that Rocksteady always seemed to have more lines than Bebop did. I dunno, maybe just me.

*ToTheNines* · 03-07-2010, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by samhain88

But Fred Wolf Films owns the rights I believe so yeah.

No, Viacom owns them.

And I've always wanted to watch through the OT and tally each stupid moment and each smart moment each of them had to see which is actually stupider... but I don't think i'd ever get that done.

*CyberCubed* · 03-07-2010, 08:06 PM

I do think that Rocksteady seemed a tad more intelligent, I remember quite a number of eps where he was telling Bebop what to do.

Cowabunga Kiefer · 03-07-2010, 08:32 PM

I honestly thing Bebop is smarter. I think they just used Rocksteady as more of a leader because he appeared a little stronger than Bebop. It's like a no-brainer to kids that a rhinoceros is stronger than a warthog, but Bebop seemed to have a little more common sense I think. Besides, he looked cooler in his human form with the purple mohawk! Yet, I like Rocksteady because he has a few moments of being a funny idiot, and a complete b***a***. I'm sure if they were brought back, it would only be for comic relief. Kinda like the newer Transformers movie.

*ToTheNines* · 03-07-2010, 09:25 PM

Hmmm, I definitely found Bebop to the more humorous of the two.

Spacebabie · 03-07-2010, 10:50 PM

They both seemed equally stupid to me. I like Rocksteady more. He was the funnier of the two and I loved how he insulted that one illusionary monster.

"Nah nah, your mother wears highheels."

***First of Two Latin Kings*** · 03-07-2010, 10:52 PM

Does anyone remember how smart/poetic Rocksteady became in Archie when Murph started writing him?

*Scandia* · 03-08-2010, 06:42 AM

Not to open a can of worms, but...

Can they get away with having Rocksteady being the smarter one?

Hint- look at them before they mutated.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 03-08-2010, 06:50 AM

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Should they be brought back

If so, they should be much tougher.

*odupianist* · 03-08-2010, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Scandia

Not to open a can of worms, but...

Can they get away with having Rocksteady being the smarter one?

Hint- look at them before they mutated.

Yeah they can get away with it if you look at them as just street punks and not their race. I think Rocksteady is the smarter one and it's not because he was white before he mutated. That is just a silly way of looking at and trying to stir up an argument. I mean hell, they got away with April and Casey cohabitating in the 2007 movie, so they can get away with Rocksteady being smarter.

*Samhain* · 03-08-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Scandia

Hint- look at them before they mutated.

So what does race hafta do with being smarter?

*ToTheNines* · 03-08-2010, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Scandia

Not to open a can of worms, but...

Can they get away with having Rocksteady being the smarter one?

Hint- look at them before they mutated.

Oh shut up. Of all the black people I know, I'm smarter than some and some are smarter than me. Of all the white people I know, I'm smarter than some and some are smarter than me. (I can go down through every single race if you'd like).

On top of that... they DID get away with it. And on top of that, no one got a tattoo on their fuc*ing arm to remember which of the mutants was black and which was white.

*Powder* · 03-08-2010, 01:09 PM

Rocksteady is deffinately 'smarter' if you wanna be blunt... He often corrected bebop & would put his 2cents in on the little tasks they had to complete whereas bebop was without guidance. My favorite of the two is DEFFINATELY bebop. Looks, personality, the whole schtick.

**Venom** · 03-08-2010, 07:29 PM

Hey, I thought his idea of replacing infomercials with commercials in the late-night slot was a pretty smart move. Some of those things are more entertaining than shows on at that time!

DonatelloDomeHead31 · 05-06-2010, 01:16 AM

I read somewhere that these two mutants were the original idea in Ninja Turtles II: Secret of the Ooze, then the producers decided on Tokka and Rahzar.

But to answer the discussion: I'd say Bebop was funnier than Rocksteady. I remember his line before being mutated in "Enter the Shredder": "I wish I'd brought some comic books."

BentonGrey · 05-06-2010, 01:30 AM

Man, I love Bebop and Rocksteady. I'd be thrilled to see them show up in new Turtle lore, and I have no problem with them being as tough as they really should be. They should definitely not be pushovers in a fight, though the Turtles can and should be able to outsmart them easily enough.

Lynn · 05-06-2010, 06:20 PM

I'll go with Rocksteady being the smarter. As for physically strongest, I have no clue.

03-07-2010, 07:02 PM	#1
(DC) Mouser Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Macon, Georgia Posts: 14	Bebop and Rocksteady Which one is stronger? Which one is Smarter? Which one is your favorite? Should they be brought back or were the references to them in the 2003 toon enough?

03-07-2010, 07:13 PM	#2
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	Good question. I guess they are equally stupid in different ways. It's not like Beavis and Butt-head, where Butt-head is marginally more intelligent than Beavis, even though both are very dumb. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

03-07-2010, 07:32 PM	#4
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03-07-2010, 10:50 PM	#9
Spacebabie Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Conroe Texas Posts: 291	They both seemed equally stupid to me. I like Rocksteady more. He was the funnier of the two and I loved how he insulted that one illusionary monster. "Nah nah, your mother wears highheels." __________________ http://spacebabie.deviantart.com/ http://www.fanfiction.net/~spacebabie http://spacebabie.livejournal.com/

03-08-2010, 06:42 AM	#11
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	Not to open a can of worms, but... Can they get away with having Rocksteady being the smarter one? Hint- look at them before they mutated. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

03-07-2010, 07:31 PM	#3
Samhain Dare To Be Stupid! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 1313 Mockingbird Lane Posts: 4,752	Not much to say about them. I happen to think Rocksteady is a tad smarter than Bebop only because to me, he sounds a little smarter when he speaks. Other than that they are both idiots. And brought back where? For Nostalgia maybe. But Fred Wolf Films owns the rights I believe so yeah.

03-07-2010, 08:06 PM	#6
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,870	I do think that Rocksteady seemed a tad more intelligent, I remember quite a number of eps where he was telling Bebop what to do.

03-07-2010, 08:32 PM	#7
Cowabunga Kiefer Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Born in Nashville, now I live in NYC. No TMNT sightings yet... Posts: 303	I honestly thing Bebop is smarter. I think they just used Rocksteady as more of a leader because he appeared a little stronger than Bebop. It's like a no-brainer to kids that a rhinoceros is stronger than a warthog, but Bebop seemed to have a little more common sense I think. Besides, he looked cooler in his human form with the purple mohawk! Yet, I like Rocksteady because he has a few moments of being a funny idiot, and a complete b*a*. I'm sure if they were brought back, it would only be for comic relief. Kinda like the newer Transformers movie.

03-07-2010, 09:25 PM	#8
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,343	Hmmm, I definitely found Bebop to the more humorous of the two.

03-08-2010, 01:09 PM	#16
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,954	Rocksteady is deffinately 'smarter' if you wanna be blunt... He often corrected bebop & would put his 2cents in on the little tasks they had to complete whereas bebop was without guidance. My favorite of the two is DEFFINATELY bebop. Looks, personality, the whole schtick.

03-08-2010, 07:29 PM	#17
Venom Space Knight Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,637	Hey, I thought his idea of replacing infomercials with commercials in the late-night slot was a pretty smart move. Some of those things are more entertaining than shows on at that time!

05-06-2010, 01:16 AM	#18
DonatelloDomeHead31 Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Helping Casey Jones fix the Pick-Up Truck Posts: 878	I read somewhere that these two mutants were the original idea in Ninja Turtles II: Secret of the Ooze, then the producers decided on Tokka and Rahzar. But to answer the discussion: I'd say Bebop was funnier than Rocksteady. I remember his line before being mutated in "Enter the Shredder": "I wish I'd brought some comic books." __________________ Donatello: Pork rind. Donatello: Yeah, a few inquiries. Donatello: Turtles don't migrate, Raph. Birds do! Donatello: Have you seen the way this guy drives? Donatello: 0.00000003%! Donatello: I don't know, but it doesn't look good...

05-06-2010, 01:30 AM	#19
BentonGrey Hench Mutant Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 263	Man, I love Bebop and Rocksteady. I'd be thrilled to see them show up in new Turtle lore, and I have no problem with them being as tough as they really should be. They should definitely not be pushovers in a fight, though the Turtles can and should be able to outsmart them easily enough.

05-06-2010, 06:20 PM	#20
Lynn Hench Mutant Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 269	I'll go with Rocksteady being the smarter. As for physically strongest, I have no clue.