Doom doesn't know **** about Pokémon

*Dr. Doom* · 03-25-2010, 10:44 AM

As I've said elsewhere, I just recently bought SoulSilver. The only other Pokémon game I've ever played was Yellow, when I rented it from Blockbuster like 10 years ago. So I have no ****ing clue what I'm doing.

The biggest issue I'm facing is not knowing what to do when I'm faced with the option of forgetting a move in favor of learning a new one. I feel like I've already ruined my Quilava by forgetting two of the earlier debuff moves he acquired by leveling, Leer (-Def) and Smokescreen (-Acc). Now I should note, I rarely ever used those moves at all. My Quilava is 24 and that's usually at the very least like 5 or 6 levels higher than anything I've faced so far. The wild Pokémon I run into are still like less than 10. So I can pretty much just one-shot most stuff if I'm not trying to level up another one of my Pokémon. But I worry about how this might effect Quilava (or Typhlosion, as he will evolve into) as I get further and further into the game, only having attacks and no status effects or debuffs. He currently has Quick Attack, Cut, Ember, and Flame Wheel. I kept Ember and Flame wheel at the same time because one is physical and one is special, though they both revolve around fire. I figured there was some application for having each, maybe against a Pokémon with greater physical defense or special defense. Quick Attack lets you attack immediately, so that replaced tackle as soon as I got it. And cut is what will let me chop down those tiny trees on the field.

I'm not really sure what direction to go in after that. Like if I should seek out TMs that will give me other status/debuff attacks, or if I really don't have anything to worry about, as well as what I should try to pursue going forward with my other Pokémon,

Peanut · 03-25-2010, 11:19 AM

A little piece of advice, unless you're planning on becoming a Poketard who counts EV's and spends hundreds of hours breeding and hatching Pokemon to make sure they get the perfect stats and egg-learned moves, just forget about any kind of deep strategy. At all. Buffs and debuffs have so few actual in-game applications in all but the most dire situations. In most cases, you're going to wipe out the strongest Pokemon you face in a hit or two if you're using the right Pokemon. Buffs and debuffs are almost a waste of time.

The actual game of Pokemon requires almost no strategy at all if you level different Pokemon types well enough. Learn the elements and their strengths and weaknesses and you'll have all the knowledge you need to be successful in the game.

If you're going to try and be competitive in actual human opponent battles at anything besides a basic level, well...you need to turn in your "life" card and quit your job.

*Cure* · 03-25-2010, 12:49 PM

Yeah, Peanut's right, but one thing I do is that if a move is an upgraded version of another, like how flamethrower is to ember, I'd just replace ember with it. But yeah, if you know your types and can cover them all, you'll be good.

*Hannah* · 03-25-2010, 02:39 PM

Get me a Vulpix! Nothing else matters.

03-26-2010, 01:06 PM

Pokemon is for ******s

Peanut · 03-26-2010, 01:10 PM

I can see you have a bright future. Both on these forums, and in life.

You better get back to school before your parents catch you ditching class and jerking off in the basement.

*Brodie* · 03-26-2010, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telepothead

Pokemon is for ******s

Are we gonna start a Banning pool? How long? Who's wants "Less than an hour"?

Peanut · 03-26-2010, 01:15 PM

That was quick.

**Barkworm** · 03-26-2010, 01:20 PM

I did it!!!

Peanut · 03-26-2010, 01:23 PM

Got any matching IP's on that fellow? He sent PM's to some very specific people. We may have an alt account on our hands.

*The Stryker* · 03-26-2010, 01:24 PM

Apparently something of mine is a asterisk cluster that likes to eat asterisk clusters.

WHAT DID I EVEN DO?!

*Brodie* · 03-26-2010, 01:26 PM

This is like we're ****ing CSI-ing this.....We're Batman, or those Ghost Writer kids!

My asterisk cluster is a gay power ranger, and he propositioned sexual favors from me. As well as my mother. I think.

**Barkworm** · 03-26-2010, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peanut

Got any matching IP's on that fellow? He sent PM's to some very specific people. We may have an alt account on our hands.

Yeah, it was that Turo kid. God bless him.

Peanut · 03-26-2010, 01:31 PM

Hahaha! Way to go Turo, you f*cking tool. You really are a child.

*Brodie* · 03-26-2010, 01:32 PM

It couldnt be! Telepothead said he had relations with all of our mothers exactly 15 years ago, and Turo is only 14! IMPOSSIBLE! He has a concrete alibi.

**Barkworm** · 03-26-2010, 01:34 PM

Damn it, Brodie is right! Is this a conspiracy against that poor kid?

*Brodie* · 03-26-2010, 01:39 PM

It must be the Origami Killer!

*The Stryker* · 03-26-2010, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brodie

It must be the OriGAMi Killer!

Fixed that for you.

*Cure* · 03-26-2010, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkworm

Damn it, Brodie is right! Is this a conspiracy against that poor kid?

Well, he DID try to warn us about some friend of his in a thread in questions/comments/bdhwjfbaj, I believe.

rav4ge · 03-26-2010, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peanut

Buffs and debuffs have so few actual in-game applications in all but the most dire situations. In most cases, you're going to wipe out the strongest Pokemon you face in a hit or two if you're using the right Pokemon. Buffs and debuffs are almost a waste of time.

Totally agree. Pokemon really comes down to rock,paper,scissors and later "rock, paper, scissors, slide hammer, toilet brush, harmonica, radial tire, pipe wrench, umbrella"

Still fun as hell though.

03-25-2010, 10:44 AM	#1
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	Doom doesn't know about Pokémon As I've said elsewhere, I just recently bought SoulSilver. The only other Pokémon game I've ever played was Yellow, when I rented it from Blockbuster like 10 years ago. So I have no **ing clue what I'm doing. The biggest issue I'm facing is not knowing what to do when I'm faced with the option of forgetting a move in favor of learning a new one. I feel like I've already ruined my Quilava by forgetting two of the earlier debuff moves he acquired by leveling, Leer (-Def) and Smokescreen (-Acc). Now I should note, I rarely ever used those moves at all. My Quilava is 24 and that's usually at the very least like 5 or 6 levels higher than anything I've faced so far. The wild Pokémon I run into are still like less than 10. So I can pretty much just one-shot most stuff if I'm not trying to level up another one of my Pokémon. But I worry about how this might effect Quilava (or Typhlosion, as he will evolve into) as I get further and further into the game, only having attacks and no status effects or debuffs. He currently has Quick Attack, Cut, Ember, and Flame Wheel. I kept Ember and Flame wheel at the same time because one is physical and one is special, though they both revolve around fire. I figured there was some application for having each, maybe against a Pokémon with greater physical defense or special defense. Quick Attack lets you attack immediately, so that replaced tackle as soon as I got it. And cut is what will let me chop down those tiny trees on the field. I'm not really sure what direction to go in after that. Like if I should seek out TMs that will give me other status/debuff attacks, or if I really don't have anything to worry about, as well as what I should try to pursue going forward with my other Pokémon, __________________ I love you, Pickle.**

03-25-2010, 12:49 PM	#3
Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	Yeah, Peanut's right, but one thing I do is that if a move is an upgraded version of another, like how flamethrower is to ember, I'd just replace ember with it. But yeah, if you know your types and can cover them all, you'll be good. __________________

03-25-2010, 02:39 PM	#4
Hannah Once more, with feeling! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,111	Get me a Vulpix! Nothing else matters. __________________

03-26-2010, 01:20 PM	#9
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,761	I did it!!! __________________ Make ****, not kill!

03-26-2010, 01:24 PM	#11
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	Apparently something of mine is a asterisk cluster that likes to eat asterisk clusters. WHAT DID I EVEN DO?! __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

03-25-2010, 11:19 AM	#2
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	A little piece of advice, unless you're planning on becoming a Poketard who counts EV's and spends hundreds of hours breeding and hatching Pokemon to make sure they get the perfect stats and egg-learned moves, just forget about any kind of deep strategy. At all. Buffs and debuffs have so few actual in-game applications in all but the most dire situations. In most cases, you're going to wipe out the strongest Pokemon you face in a hit or two if you're using the right Pokemon. Buffs and debuffs are almost a waste of time. The actual game of Pokemon requires almost no strategy at all if you level different Pokemon types well enough. Learn the elements and their strengths and weaknesses and you'll have all the knowledge you need to be successful in the game. If you're going to try and be competitive in actual human opponent battles at anything besides a basic level, well...you need to turn in your "life" card and quit your job.

03-26-2010, 01:06 PM	#5
Telepothead Guest Posts: n/a	Pokemon is for ******s

03-26-2010, 01:10 PM	#6
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	I can see you have a bright future. Both on these forums, and in life. You better get back to school before your parents catch you ditching class and jerking off in the basement.

03-26-2010, 01:15 PM	#8
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	That was quick.

03-26-2010, 01:23 PM	#10
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Got any matching IP's on that fellow? He sent PM's to some very specific people. We may have an alt account on our hands.

03-26-2010, 01:26 PM	#12
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	This is like we're ****ing CSI-ing this.....We're Batman, or those Ghost Writer kids! My asterisk cluster is a gay power ranger, and he propositioned sexual favors from me. As well as my mother. I think. __________________ Stupendous Monster

03-26-2010, 01:31 PM	#14
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Hahaha! Way to go Turo, you f*cking tool. You really are a child.

03-26-2010, 01:32 PM	#15
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	It couldnt be! Telepothead said he had relations with all of our mothers exactly 15 years ago, and Turo is only 14! IMPOSSIBLE! He has a concrete alibi. __________________ Stupendous Monster

03-26-2010, 01:34 PM	#16
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,761	Damn it, Brodie is right! Is this a conspiracy against that poor kid? __________________ Make ****, not kill!

03-26-2010, 01:39 PM	#17
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	It must be the Origami Killer! __________________ Stupendous Monster