What if the original cartoon never ended?

*CyberCubed* · 05-02-2010, 08:54 PM

What if the original TMNT cartoon was like Simpsons or Pokemon, where the series literally kept going for 20+ years?

Do you think the 2k3 series would have existed alongside it, or would the old toon still running prevent PL/4kids to create a new cartoon?

Also, what do you think would have become of it? I'm sure if it had continued past Season 10, they would have come up with new villains every season or brought Shredder back more frequently.

BentonGrey · 05-02-2010, 09:39 PM

Well, the original 'toon definitely decreased in quality over time, but it is hardly as if there is a lack of good ideas for the world the Turtles lived in. The Archie comics by themselves could easily have provided plenty of new ideas and villains. I'd have loved to see the 'toon mature a bit as it went on, taking on some of the slightly darker (but still plenty kid friendly) stories from those comics, like the invasion of the Malignoids. I have given my right arm to see the Future Turtle saga brought to life.

I'd really love to be able to carry my mod far enough to play with some of those stories and characters....my quiet ambition is to one day do get all the way up to Armaggon. Unfortunately, it depends entirely on what the artists feel like creating.

I don't think that, given the situation as it existed at the time, the Turtles would have continued to be good for 20+ years, but it SHOULD have.

*Cure* · 05-02-2010, 09:46 PM

It would probably be terrible at this point. All good things must come to an end and whatnot.

*triplexxx* · 05-02-2010, 09:49 PM

I'm thinking the old toon might've taken a path almost similar to the new toon, 'cause while that had a slightly more serious tone, it never totally left the "kid-friendly" realm, well maybe except for SAINW, that's one mile they probably would never have gone. But they could've introduced several new villains and have them stick around at least a while, Shredder probably never would've been completely out of the picture either.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 05-03-2010, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

What if the original TMNT cartoon was like Simpsons or Pokemon, where the series literally kept going for 20+ years?

Do you think the 2k3 series would have existed alongside it, or would the old toon still running prevent PL/4kids to create a new cartoon?

Also, what do you think would have become of it? I'm sure if it had continued past Season 10, they would have come up with new villains every season or brought Shredder back more frequently.

No, I don't think the 2003 show would exist, look at the Simpsons, it's still just one show. I would not like to see them still being teenagers (which they probably would) and the world around them develop (like technology, natural science and the political world map).

NameGoesHere1066 · 05-03-2010, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCure

It would probably be terrible at this point. All good things must come to an end and whatnot.

agreed. Plus the sci-fi elements where killing the series toward the end.

TheUltimateShredhead · 05-03-2010, 01:03 PM

I would like to see a turtles series with the design of the ot characters in turtles forever

*Icebot* · 05-03-2010, 03:54 PM

In the series finale, Divide and Conquer, the technodrome was completely destroyed, but it could easily be rebuilt with the help of Dregg's microbots from season 10. If the show kept going, the technodrome could come back just like that. And Shredder and Krang could take control of it away from Dregg. Then they could become the main villains again throughout the years.

Spacebabie · 05-03-2010, 10:14 PM

I think it would have gone down in quality.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 05-03-2010, 11:18 PM

it's possible, but then we wouldn't have gotten TMNT Turtles Forever

cammy85 · 05-16-2010, 02:53 AM

I had one season drafted where Shredder returned for a two-part season premiere only to get killed (or so they thought) and Splinter woulkd reamain in Japan and even get demutated!!

The Turtles would face a new villain/enemy of Landor, Merrick and Carter named Kron who was responsible for the derstruction of Carter's home in the future. He and his super solders were defeated with help from the Turtles' restored mutant powers and sent to the Dimension X labor mines where he was rescued by Krang who recruited him as his new second-in-command. Krang also had an army in his new Technodrome he "borrowed" from Drakus/Berserko (some things never change).

The Turtles spent most of the rest of the season battling Kron and Krang, while Krang learned more about the Turtles' powers and how it could help him supercharge his T-2000 and conquer the universe. He soon gets Leonardo's energy and uses it to almost return to Earth but the Turtles stop him.

Fearing for Leo's safety, the others become too protective of him especially when dealing with a new gang of well-armed Japanese fur smugglers. Leo runs away and winds up on the same ship as the crooks and realizes he's headed for Japan and the gangs' leader. The rest of the Turtles and Carter head for Japan and meet the ringleader - CyberShredder!! After a fierce battle, Shredder is beaten for good this time and the Turtles return home.

Once there they encounter a shape-shifter who poses as the city's top dignitaries committing crimes at various energy facilities. His main alter-ego is a psychologist intent on studying this new phenemenon once the "criminals" are brought to justice. Seeing a special interestin the Turtles, he sets a trap for them by posing as April and getting her arrested. The Turtles rescue April but everyone is taken to the lab where he reveals that he's an alien and his boss, Kron, is seeking the terms of their surrender as they prepare the final invasion. All seems lost when Carter arrives and rescues everyone. The villains escape after a brief battle and it looks like they win... except the T-2000 has been fully powered up!!

Realizing the final battle is nigh, the crew are alerted when a giant portal opens above the city. They head through by blimp and enter the T-2000. A fight breaks out and Kron uses leftover energy to mutate. The others fight him with their powers but he demutates and steals them. Now they're in trouble!! The T-2000 is ultra-powerful now and can't be stopped. Except... using too much energy at once weakens its weapons system and shields so they enter and cause the place to self-destruct, destroying Krang. Kron and the soldiers are easily dispatched ansd returned to the future.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 05-16-2010, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icebot

In the series finale, Divide and Conquer, the technodrome was completely destroyed, but it could easily be rebuilt with the help of Dregg's microbots from season 10. If the show kept going, the technodrome could come back just like that. And Shredder and Krang could take control of it away from Dregg. Then they could become the main villains again throughout the years.

The show could still run without the Technodrome. The Archie TMNT Adventures comics did.

kev trashcan · 05-18-2010, 12:16 PM

maybe there would be celebrity guest stars every episode that helped them solve there mystery each week. like chris walken, and paul rubens. not at all the globe troters or batman

Walkabout · 05-19-2010, 07:21 AM

Ha I just pretend it never ended anyway

*ZariusTwo* · 05-19-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCure

It would probably be terrible at this point. All good things must come to an end and whatnot.

Such an "Illumanated" pespective of looking at things. I contest good things go on with reinvention and evolution

*Coola Yagami* · 05-19-2010, 07:43 PM

Yeah it had to end, the slapstick could only go for so long before the Turtles would have to resort to actual combat to compete with the other action cartoons at the time. And if they did that, the change would have been too jarring after 10 seasons of slapstick and fights where all Raph did was throw a sai.

*Koi* · 05-19-2010, 07:49 PM

Just fine, they will just create new jokes to go with the new eras and pop culture and they would update things more and continue. I think it would work.

*Eiko* · 05-19-2010, 08:11 PM

As much as i would have loved it to never end it had to. End it why its good like Seinfeld or else it would be like The Simpsons where it would get really stupid.

mikey22 · 05-21-2010, 06:27 PM

it def needed to end

the last 3 seasons were'nt funny anymore

michaelangelo still never used his nunchucks... shredder and krang were long gone

i wish the final episode had everybody in it though

similar to x-mens graduation day ep i loved that episode

the final tmnt ep should ahve been similar to night of the rogues.

*XERO* · 05-21-2010, 11:55 PM

There'd be a SH*TLOAD of color and voice errors.

And lots of YouTube Poops.

05-02-2010, 08:54 PM	#1
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	What if the original cartoon never ended? What if the original TMNT cartoon was like Simpsons or Pokemon, where the series literally kept going for 20+ years? Do you think the 2k3 series would have existed alongside it, or would the old toon still running prevent PL/4kids to create a new cartoon? Also, what do you think would have become of it? I'm sure if it had continued past Season 10, they would have come up with new villains every season or brought Shredder back more frequently. Last edited by CyberCubed; 05-02-2010 at 10:10 PM.

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triplexxx Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,817	I'm thinking the old toon might've taken a path almost similar to the new toon, 'cause while that had a slightly more serious tone, it never totally left the "kid-friendly" realm, well maybe except for SAINW, that's one mile they probably would never have gone. But they could've introduced several new villains and have them stick around at least a while, Shredder probably never would've been completely out of the picture either. __________________ Please don't shoot me Mr. Big Mike. I'm too young and good-looking to die, well too young. I got a father, I got a mother, I got a grandmother, I got a little sister...and a little brother this high (raises hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand), and little brother this high (lowers hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand) and then I got a great big brother this high (slaps gun and runs). "Fright Night" - Three Stooges

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05-02-2010, 09:39 PM	#2
BentonGrey Hench Mutant Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 263	Well, the original 'toon definitely decreased in quality over time, but it is hardly as if there is a lack of good ideas for the world the Turtles lived in. The Archie comics by themselves could easily have provided plenty of new ideas and villains. I'd have loved to see the 'toon mature a bit as it went on, taking on some of the slightly darker (but still plenty kid friendly) stories from those comics, like the invasion of the Malignoids. I have given my right arm to see the Future Turtle saga brought to life. I'd really love to be able to carry my mod far enough to play with some of those stories and characters....my quiet ambition is to one day do get all the way up to Armaggon. Unfortunately, it depends entirely on what the artists feel like creating. I don't think that, given the situation as it existed at the time, the Turtles would have continued to be good for 20+ years, but it SHOULD have.

05-03-2010, 01:03 PM	#7
TheUltimateShredhead Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 642	I would like to see a turtles series with the design of the ot characters in turtles forever

05-03-2010, 03:54 PM	#8
Icebot Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 3,225	In the series finale, Divide and Conquer, the technodrome was completely destroyed, but it could easily be rebuilt with the help of Dregg's microbots from season 10. If the show kept going, the technodrome could come back just like that. And Shredder and Krang could take control of it away from Dregg. Then they could become the main villains again throughout the years.

05-16-2010, 02:53 AM	#11
cammy85 Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Minnedosa, MB Canada Posts: 772	I had one season drafted where Shredder returned for a two-part season premiere only to get killed (or so they thought) and Splinter woulkd reamain in Japan and even get demutated!! The Turtles would face a new villain/enemy of Landor, Merrick and Carter named Kron who was responsible for the derstruction of Carter's home in the future. He and his super solders were defeated with help from the Turtles' restored mutant powers and sent to the Dimension X labor mines where he was rescued by Krang who recruited him as his new second-in-command. Krang also had an army in his new Technodrome he "borrowed" from Drakus/Berserko (some things never change). The Turtles spent most of the rest of the season battling Kron and Krang, while Krang learned more about the Turtles' powers and how it could help him supercharge his T-2000 and conquer the universe. He soon gets Leonardo's energy and uses it to almost return to Earth but the Turtles stop him. Fearing for Leo's safety, the others become too protective of him especially when dealing with a new gang of well-armed Japanese fur smugglers. Leo runs away and winds up on the same ship as the crooks and realizes he's headed for Japan and the gangs' leader. The rest of the Turtles and Carter head for Japan and meet the ringleader - CyberShredder!! After a fierce battle, Shredder is beaten for good this time and the Turtles return home. Once there they encounter a shape-shifter who poses as the city's top dignitaries committing crimes at various energy facilities. His main alter-ego is a psychologist intent on studying this new phenemenon once the "criminals" are brought to justice. Seeing a special interestin the Turtles, he sets a trap for them by posing as April and getting her arrested. The Turtles rescue April but everyone is taken to the lab where he reveals that he's an alien and his boss, Kron, is seeking the terms of their surrender as they prepare the final invasion. All seems lost when Carter arrives and rescues everyone. The villains escape after a brief battle and it looks like they win... except the T-2000 has been fully powered up!! Realizing the final battle is nigh, the crew are alerted when a giant portal opens above the city. They head through by blimp and enter the T-2000. A fight breaks out and Kron uses leftover energy to mutate. The others fight him with their powers but he demutates and steals them. Now they're in trouble!! The T-2000 is ultra-powerful now and can't be stopped. Except... using too much energy at once weakens its weapons system and shields so they enter and cause the place to self-destruct, destroying Krang. Kron and the soldiers are easily dispatched ansd returned to the future.

05-18-2010, 12:16 PM	#13
kev trashcan Hench Mutant Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: sf east bay california Posts: 265	maybe there would be celebrity guest stars every episode that helped them solve there mystery each week. like chris walken, and paul rubens. not at all the globe troters or batman

05-19-2010, 07:21 AM	#14
Walkabout Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 556	Ha I just pretend it never ended anyway

05-19-2010, 07:43 PM	#16
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,709	Yeah it had to end, the slapstick could only go for so long before the Turtles would have to resort to actual combat to compete with the other action cartoons at the time. And if they did that, the change would have been too jarring after 10 seasons of slapstick and fights where all Raph did was throw a sai. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

05-19-2010, 07:49 PM	#17
Koi Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,787	Just fine, they will just create new jokes to go with the new eras and pop culture and they would update things more and continue. I think it would work.

05-19-2010, 08:11 PM	#18
Eiko Aussie and Proud Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Foot HQ Australia Posts: 1,816	As much as i would have loved it to never end it had to. End it why its good like Seinfeld or else it would be like The Simpsons where it would get really stupid. __________________

05-21-2010, 06:27 PM	#19
mikey22 Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: IL Posts: 682	it def needed to end the last 3 seasons were'nt funny anymore michaelangelo still never used his nunchucks... shredder and krang were long gone i wish the final episode had everybody in it though similar to x-mens graduation day ep i loved that episode the final tmnt ep should ahve been similar to night of the rogues.

05-21-2010, 11:55 PM	#20
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	There'd be a SHTLOAD of color and voice errors. And lots of YouTube Poops. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"*