Animated Wonder Woman

[NameGoesHere1066]

I know that we where able to get to see Wonder Woman in the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited cartoons, but I was sort of sad that Wonder Woman did't get her own animated series like Batman and Superman did beofre they crossed over into Justice League series. I really liked Wonder Woman in Justice league, but I was always little disapointed that she never got her own series.

And yes, I under stand the same could be said about all the superheros that appeared in Justice league Unlimited but since as far DC is concerned Wonder Woman is like the iconic three of the DC universe (Batman, Superman, Wonderwoman), that I thought it was kind of a shame she didn't get her own animated series like the other DC poster childern did.

Would anyone have liked to see a Wonder Woman animated series? Do you think Wonder Woman could have carried her own series. Or do think she is better sharing the spot light with other heros in theJLU series? I've heard some people say that they think the Wonder Woman of the animated Justice league universe is a bit dull or kind of unlikable because of her attitude. What do you think?

[plastroncafe]

Haven't really caught much, if any, of the Justice League cartoons. BUT I did have the opportunity to be at the NYComic Con premiere of the Wonder Woman animated movie.

If they made a series like that movie? Oh hells yeah I'd watch it.

[Candy Kappa]

I think she's a strong enough character to carry the weight of her own show.

[The Stryker]

She has a strong enough character but the audience isn't there. The animated movie didn't do too hot and interest for Wonder Woman is never that high.

[Brodie]

The poor sales of the Wonder Woman animated movie (as well as GL) are the reason why a ton of DCU animated films were scrapped. And Wonder Woman's performance is the single reason why DC won't be doing anymore animated films with a female lead. Ever.

So, no. I don't think she should have her own show. But if they do another JL series, I'd love to see Wonder Woman. She's at her best when she's contrasting with other heroes.

[Sage Ninja]

really? I thought the Wonder Woman movie did well. Oh well. I like Wonder Woman but I don't think she is well liked by many other people for some reason. I think it's the whole feminist vibe that turns people off to her, since whining about female inequality is seen as a dated gripe. I don't remember the Wonder Woman of the Super Friends making overtly feminist comments, or the live action Wonder Woman from the 70's. They where just super heros that fought crime and evil. And I think they where the better for it.

but that aside does the Wonder Woman source material have a rogues gallery as diverse and epic as Batman and Superman for her to go up against? I can't really think of any obvious baddies synomious with Wonder Woman, like with Batman (Joker) and Superman (Lex Luthur) that would make for engaging story telling.

also side note, I noticed from other forums that Wonder Woman from the justice League isn't well liked by fans. They say she is annoying.

[ZariusTwo]

Wonder Woman doesnt have a lot of dimension to her character, that's why.

[gobo]

Originally Posted by Brodie

The poor sales of the Wonder Woman animated movie (as well as GL) are the reason why a ton of DCU animated films were scrapped.

Well, doesn't that figure. WW & GL were my favorites so far.

[Sage Ninja]

Wonder Woman doesnt have a lot of dimension to her character, that's why.

Is that at the fault of how she is handled by writers or was she actually created as sort of a bland character even in the early comics? Cause a female warrior who is an amazon seems like play ground for creativity and story telling IMHO. What where the early comics like of Wonder Woman? Was it just WWII propaganda, or was there something more to it than that?

for those of you with a good knowlege of the Wonder Woman mythos what exactly about her storyline turns people off to it?

The poor sales of the Wonder Woman animated movie (as well as GL) are the reason why a ton of DCU animated films were scrapped

aw, really?

[Brodie]

Wonder Woman was just a way to make a dime off having an image of female empowerment. Its her schtik. Thats about it.

I'd say the best stuff about Wonder Woman was probably done by Gail Simone.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

Is that at the fault of how she is handled by writers or was she actually created as sort of a bland character even in the early comics? Cause a female warrior who is an amazon seems like play ground for creativity and story telling IMHO. What where the early comics like of Wonder Woman? Was it just WWII propaganda, or was there something more to it than that?

for those of you with a good knowlege of the Wonder Woman mythos what exactly about her storyline turns people off to it?

It's my understanding that Wonder Woman was created solely to be a soft-core bondage porn character. She wasn't supposed to have character and depth, but be pretty and get tied up a lot.

[Brodie]

Well, she did have a rope...

[gobo]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

It's my understanding that Wonder Woman was created solely to be a soft-core bondage porn character. She wasn't supposed to have character and depth, but be pretty and get tied up a lot.

Conspiracy theory much.

That's right. It wasn't a question. I think this describes the leather-clad Xena better.

Still, while I'm not incredibly knowledgeable on the history of DC Comics characters, she actually was a shallow character back in the day. But, name one that wasn't. Different era, different standards...

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by gobo

Conspiracy theory much.

That's right. It wasn't a question.

[strike]Does this mean you do or don't want a citation?[/strike]

On second though, scratch that. You've clearly indicated that any evidence I'd use to support my comment would fall on deaf ears, so in the interest of saving everyone's time I retract the offer.

[Candy Kappa]

Marston wasn't very subtle with the bondage in his stories

[Andrew NDB]

I'm a huge Wonder Woman fan... I own virtually every WW comic out there, right down to the 40s.

She has plenty of character but her biggest problem is DC's insistance on cancelling and rebooting/drastically retooling her every 3 or 4 years has been pretty detrimental to her. You know, just when she's a bit established by a writer and has a good thing going, a great supporting cast... "Sorry, looks like WW isn't making Batman or Superman numbers the past few months (which is crazy -- WW is never going to do those numbers) so it's time to bring in a new creative team."

So what happens is every new writer starts off with a big, year-long, "Who am I?" story arc with Diana. By the time she comes up with an answer, sales dip and it's time for a new writer to wipe away the progress of the previous writer(s).

It's pretty shocking and insulting that JMS, who's coming on WW... the first story arc out of the gate is the destruction of Paradise Island (oh, and another "Who am I?" arc). Which would be shocking in and of itself... but the shock I'm referring to is the fact that the destruction of Paradise Island has already been done... about 20 times in virtually as many years!

And the "Who am I?" story thing... it's just pretty retarded. If she hasn't come up with the answer yet, she's never going to.

My point is... WW does have plenty of character and character depth... but it's just inconsistent from one writer's take to the next. I'm certain eventually Geoff Johns will come in the room wagging his tail and will do some kind of horrible, "Wonder Woman: Rebirth" or "Wonder Woman: Secret Origin" that will take a big sh*t over all of her history and it'll be applauded by many... but by that point I'll probably just walk out on the whole thing.

[Turo602]

I like Wonder Woman a lot. Ive also enjoyed the animated film, but I don't know much about her so I would personally like to see a show about her. I'm sure she has as many stories to tell as Supes and the Bat.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Turo602

I like Wonder Woman alot. Ive also enjoyed the animated film, but I don't know much about her so I would personally like to see a show about her. I'm sure she has as many stories to tell as Supes and the Bat.

She's certainly more interesting than Superman.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

She's certainly more interesting than Superman.

The whole survivor of a dead species, god complex thing is just completely flat. Ahem.

WW most of the time is just the superhero version of a Yakov Smirnoff joke. On my island, Women own you.

[Brodie]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

She's certainly more interesting than Superman.

Yeah, and that's why there's oh-so-many fantastic stories people can name off hand about her, arcs that define not just the character but offer a glimpse of how legitimate sequential art is in our society. As well as stories that are cherished not just by WW fans, but the general public and literature enthusiasts alike.


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