LOST - season 6

[Panda Khan]

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My take on Christian's appearance is that it was MIB the whole time. When Locke meets Christian at the wheel, he convinces him that he must die, that wheel was later explained to be built by MIB. This was MIB plan. He couldn't kill him on the Island because of Jacob's protection, however he could kill him indirectly off the island by Ben, who thought he was doing right by bringing Locke and the Oceanic Six back. I think he wanted Locke dead because taking the form of a dead candidate of Jacob's is the loophole that he needed to kill him.
MIB not being able to leave the Island would be contradicted however by Christian's appearance to Jack in LA...which personally I feel was a hallucination, much like Michael's hallucination of seeing Libby at the hospital out of guilt.
Another contradiction of not being able to leave the Island is Christian's appearance to Michael on the freighter right before the bomb explodes. I thought about that appearance but it makes sense to me that this appearance was MIB because he was waiting for the chopper carrying the Oceanic 6 to refuel and leave the boat before he let the bomb explode. With the Oceanic 6 dead, Locke would have never left the Island and MIB would not have his vessel to kill Jacob.
Christian also lead Claire off into the jungle which she confirmed this season was the same thing as Flocke. His appearance is also seen at the cabin along with what appears to be Locke's eye.
Another contradiction I thought about was Ilana mentioning that the Locke form of MIB wasn't able to take the appearance of anyone else now that he was in Locke's body. This however isn't true because after John's corpse is brought back, MIB takes the form of Alexis in the temple wall, and also Christian at the barracks to Sun and Frank. Unless Ilana meant that once Jacob is dead, MIB is stuck in Locke form.

[Ninjinister]

Might wanna throw spoiler tags 'round that. Some people might not have seen Across the Sea yet.

[Panda Khan]

Very good episode I thought.

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not sure who let Desmond out of the well...any ideas? Claire perhaps? I've always hated the episode right before the season finale because it's used to set the last episode up but I wasn't disappointed this time, IDK maybe because I know it's less than a week before the finale.

[Barkworm]

In anticipation of the final episode I re-watched all episodes in the last two weeks. It certainly was a fantastic show. Sure, there were a couple of plot holes here and there but having seen all the episodes in such a short time span, I was pleasantly surprised of how well most of the plot pieces fell into place.

All in all it was a very cleverly written show with interesting ways of storytelling and excellent acting. I'll even go as far as to say that this is my favourite (non-comedy) TV-show of all time.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by Panda Khan

Very good episode I thought.

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not sure who let Desmond out of the well...any ideas? Claire perhaps? I've always hated the episode right before the season finale because it's used to set the last episode up but I wasn't disappointed this time, IDK maybe because I know it's less than a week before the finale.

Well, I saw a 7 minute scene on Youtube (which was removed like an hour after I saw it) that was shown at some celebration event.

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Whilst puzzling over who could have gotten Desmond out of the well, The Man in Black looks at a clue on the ground. It's a paw print. He then says something to the effect of "It looks like there's been a dog here..."

Now if you remember who was in "the dog"'s company last, it all fits together.

[Machias Banshee]

What the...

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They were all DEAD the whole TIME?! This entire series has been them trying to find 'the light'?! This makes no Sense!! ARGH!!!

[愛]

I was very impressed by the way they ended this show, but the last few minutes of the finale kind of ruined the whole thing for me.

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It's a sort of open-ended interpretation, and I hate that kind of storytelling. I'm watching a show so I can be given the facts. If I wanted to make up my own interpretation, I'd go write my own damn story.

But to sum up my opinion of Lost, I think it's easily one of the greatest shows of our time.

[Ninjinister]

I really loved the finale. I know it's going to piss a lot of people off, but it suited my needs for the finale just fine.

I also think it's very, very fitting that

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The last two characters we see were also the first two.

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by Machias Banshee

What the...

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They were all DEAD the whole TIME?! This entire series has been them trying to find 'the light'?! This makes no Sense!! ARGH!!!

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No. They weren't dead the entire time. They really were on the island. The sideways stuff is them being dead. Jack's dad said they died over a period of different years. And remember Hurley told Linus "You were a great number 2.." indicating that Hurley DID spend time as the guardian with Linus as his 2nd in command.

[poiuytre]

I really liked it, but

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I didn't see Richard anywhere in that final segment. I thought the hair meant he started aging again. Either he's still alive or he wasn't invited.

I found the flash-sideways bits very corny this season, but looking back to it with the twist, I suppose it's acceptable.

One of the greatest shows of our time and I'll miss it.

[Roseangelo]

Originally Posted by poiuytre

I really liked it, but

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I didn't see Richard anywhere in that final segment. I thought the hair meant he started aging again. Either he's still alive or he wasn't invited.

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Richard was never really part of "the group," and individually did not factor so much into Jack's life. I also expect this is why Ben didn't go inside the church. He was close enough to the group, and Jack, to sit outside, but he never really felt like he belonged. We also see Charlotte and Faraday backstage at the concert, but not at the church. And Miles is also not at the church.

I totally and completely loved it, and I don't feel cheated at all, having invested in this show for six years.

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I also have a feeling of complete understanding of the ending, thanks to how closely it mirrored the ending of Ashes to Ashes, which aired just two nights previous to this. (I would totally recommend watching both Life on Mars (UK version! US version is complete rubbish) and Ashes to Ashes for anyone who hasn't seen those series.)

[PAAATE]

I loved the ending and the series. But I think the final battle between Flocke and Jack could have been a little cooler. Flocke was maybe just a little too easily gotten rid of. But that's just nitpicking.

I also wanna thank whoever decided to stream the show live, so I could spend the whole night watching it. That person must be my hero of the week x) Though it was kinda hard to stay up until 5.30 a.m. Way too long since I did that.

[Duke]

Originally Posted by Roseangelo

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Richard was never really part of "the group," and individually did not factor so much into Jack's life. I also expect this is why Ben didn't go inside the church. He was close enough to the group, and Jack, to sit outside, but he never really felt like he belonged. We also see Charlotte and Faraday backstage at the concert, but not at the church. And Miles is also not at the church.

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Actually I think the reason Richard wasn't there was because you need to be with the people who were most significant in your life to "move on." The Losties weren't those people for Ricardo, his wife was. The same thing with Ben. Ben was still waiting on Alex. That's who he needed to move on with and why he wouldn't enter the church.

I absolutely loved the finale.

[Panda Khan]

The more I chew on the finale the more I like it...about Ben:

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Could the people not ready to move on, like Ben actually be trapped as the whispers on the island? Remember Michael said he was stuck there on the island as a ghost, I'm assuming because of him murdering in cold blood, however he still redeems himself by saving the Oceanic 6 from the freighter destruction but he clearly tells Hurley that he is still stuck.
Ben has murdered more people both directly and indirectly and for him to pass on to the church wouldn't be right even though he redeemed himself on the island in the end. However since he was responsible for Locke's death, he goes ahead and asks for his forgiveness which I believe is needed for him to make it one step closer to the other side and not be trapped on the island. He is indirectly responsible for Alex's and Danielle's deaths...since his awakening by Desmond at the school, he now knows he must now make things right with the people he did wrong and then his spirit or whatever can leave the island, while in the alternate reality he can go inside the church.

[MrPliggins]

I loved the finale and I think it was a very fitting end. It made sense too. I was still guessing what the ending would be ten minutes before it was over.

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One of the things in the series I didn't like was Sayid and Shannon's relationship in season 1. I thought it felt very forced. But them getting together in the final episode made it seem better somehow. It was great to see everyone come full circle and meet up with their lost loves in the afterlife.

One scene that seemed kinda forced was Kate and Jack's "I love you" scene. In the first few seasons, there was chemistry between the two, but doesn't it seem like that chemisty has been gone for a couple of seasons now?

[Peanut]

Disliked it. I didn't expect to like it, hating the last two seasons as I have, but it just felt so corny. So many of the things that made me interested in Lost were quickly shoved under the rug with throwaway answers that had zero impact over this season, and nothing about the ending made me feel like very much mattered in the end.

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The flash sideways stuff being some kind of stupid post-death pre-afterlife thing was stupid. What was the purpose of the majority of it if it ends up having no impact aside from everyone remembering their island experiences? Jack's non-existent son? POINT? Why the hell wouldn't they just remember all of their experiences after they die? Is it supposed to be like ghosts refusing to believe they're dead and sticking around? I honestly felt like it was just a bunch of fan-service horsesh*t. "Oh, everything is fine! Look at all of these things working out perfectly for everyone!" and then, of course, the rug is pulled out and none of it is actually happening, and none of it actual matters, so who really gives a sh*t? Everyone is dead. Done.

I dunno. For all the yammering the writers did about the fact that they wouldn't pull an "everyone is dead" ending, they sure seemed to do just that.

I really did like it ending with Jack sprawled in the bamboo, though. As cliche as it is to end on an opening, especially an opening that's been used so many times over the course of the show, it was terribly fitting.

[Barkworm]

It was fantastic. I'm really happy they ended the show this way.

What an awesome show. I'll miss it.

[poiuytre]

Originally Posted by Peanut

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Jack's non-existent son? POINT?

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David served to make Jack understand what it is like to be a parent with a demanding career. In spite of his best intentions his son grew estranged, much like the history between Christian and Jack. His relationship with Christian was a big part of Jack's backstory so I think it was a good way to develop the character coming to terms with it.

[ZariusTwo]

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I never watched the show much myself, but I think some are realzing that LOST wasnt about escapism, it was about soul-searching not just for the characters, but for psychological aspects of it's audience...in that respect, yes, it WAS "fan service" because it was the fans that understood the show the MOST. Everyone else likely went into it with a "24" action motif and are thus dissapointed they didnt get their grimdark ending where the island assplodes, but instead we're left with a completly wide-open ending for a new season, providing inspiration for fanfiction.

..I kid, I kid...I loved that Jack's death timed in perfectly well with his ascension with the others, from a logical standpoint, you could argue the alternate Universe was just a result of him daydreaming as he died and realizing his mission had been accomplished, so it still works that way for a "realist"

I dunno. For all the yammering the writers did about the fact that they wouldn't pull an "everyone is dead" ending, they sure seemed to do just that.

Nobody ever truly "dies", there's life after death, that WAS after all the whole point of the gathering, ready to explore the rim beyond our conventional understandings...

[Barkworm]

It's funny to see Zarius defending the show, I remember him being the most vocal hater on these boards.