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Old 07-02-2010, 05:30 PM   #21
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I used to care, I stopped awhile back. Though if I get to a chain of 40 when I'm EV training I'll usually try for it for the hell of it. Actually, I'd say it's mostly for their value in trade. Though it's very rare I get to a chain of 40 and I don't really EV train that much since I'm too lazy to IV breed new Pokes these days.
What the HELL did you just say?
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Old 07-02-2010, 08:55 PM   #22
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A chain is a technical term for Poke radar in Diamond/Pearl/Platinum. When you use Poke radar, four patches will move, you choose one. If you complete the battle as in catching it or defeating it, four more patches will move. If you choose the correct patch, you will encounter the same Pokemon again, same level and type and it will continue until you choose the wrong patch, run from a battle, or leave the area. There are ways to tell which patch but I won't get into that. You can keep track of the number of times you've done it with a poketech application, I forget what number. And yeah, the higher your number the better the chance of the encounter being shiny. EVs are the points given to you from the vitamins like protein, hp up etc. They are also given whenever you gain experience based on what Pokemon you defeat. Thus training is to get all those points on your Pokemon. Yes, I know too much about the game and it's not even my primary competitive game
Though I don't even play that much... usually like 15-30 minutes a day unless I'm feeling dedicated to completing something.
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Old 07-03-2010, 02:13 PM   #23
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Easiest way to find "shinies" is to not care about them in the first place.

Why hatch hundreds of eggs just to get a green Zubat when I could have a perfectly usable one after fifteen? One of the strangest preoccupations of the Pokemon fanbase for sure.
Well when you have done everything you can do in the game, there isnt much left. Besides, I actually like getting shinies. Some think its stupid but I love it.
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Old 07-03-2010, 06:58 PM   #24
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Well when you have done everything you can do in the game, there isnt much left. Besides, I actually like getting shinies. Some think its stupid but I love it.
I don't see the point in putting days into getting a blue-lipped Victreebel, when odds are it won't even have fighting STATs.

But, uh, c'est la vie? Nice to know I can trade people hideous Pokemon for good ones if I ever feel the urge.
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Old 07-04-2010, 08:00 PM   #25
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Shinys are just to show off, pure and simple. Though almost all of them suck in terms of stats. Almost all of the good ones are gotten using luck manipulation via this program that tells you how. At this point I just breed for good stats, if I get a shiny with the stats I want, I'll use it but if not I don't really care.
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Old 07-04-2010, 08:25 PM   #26
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I don't see the point in putting days into getting a blue-lipped Victreebel, when odds are it won't even have fighting STATs.

But, uh, c'est la vie? Nice to know I can trade people hideous Pokemon for good ones if I ever feel the urge.
As others have said, its simply for showing off. Then again, I dont give a squat about stats and EV training anyways. The excitement of getting a shiny is enough for me.
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Old 07-06-2010, 09:30 AM   #27
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A chain is a technical term for Poke radar in Diamond/Pearl/Platinum. When you use Poke radar, four patches will move, you choose one. If you complete the battle as in catching it or defeating it, four more patches will move. If you choose the correct patch, you will encounter the same Pokemon again, same level and type and it will continue until you choose the wrong patch, run from a battle, or leave the area. There are ways to tell which patch but I won't get into that. You can keep track of the number of times you've done it with a poketech application, I forget what number. And yeah, the higher your number the better the chance of the encounter being shiny. EVs are the points given to you from the vitamins like protein, hp up etc. They are also given whenever you gain experience based on what Pokemon you defeat. Thus training is to get all those points on your Pokemon. Yes, I know too much about the game and it's not even my primary competitive game
Though I don't even play that much... usually like 15-30 minutes a day unless I'm feeling dedicated to completing something.
...wall of text makes me sadpants...

Mmm... I need to try and grab a Mew, Jirachi, Celibii, and all that jazz one day. I'm happy with my Godmon though.
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Old 07-07-2010, 08:39 PM   #28
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...wall of text makes me sadpants...

Mmm... I need to try and grab a Mew, Jirachi, Celibii, and all that jazz one day. I'm happy with my Godmon though.
Yeah you can get a Legit Mew through My Pokemon Ranch for the Wii. Thats where I got mine. I love it.
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Old 07-08-2010, 11:44 AM   #29
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Mew is coming through the Nintendo WFC in october anyway. So who cares.

A lot of this "professional" pokemon playing just comes off as tedious busy work to me. All I need in my game is my charizard and couple of potions and I'm enjoying it.
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Old 07-08-2010, 11:48 AM   #30
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Mew is coming through the Nintendo WFC in october anyway. So who cares.
Where did you hear that? I havent seen it posted on any of the Pokemon sites I go to. If its true, then thats cool.
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A lot of this "professional" pokemon playing just comes off as tedious busy work to me. All I need in my game is my charizard and couple of potions and I'm enjoying it.
No different than people getting their fighting game skills down.

Pokemon is simple enough to be completed by children, but also designed to have room for competitive play. People are going to take advantage of that, and as more and more people develop ways to win, the required level of training and strategies become more complex. It's just how things work out.
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they distributed a mew in Japan for the 10th anniversary of GSC. October is the american anniversary (or thereabouts) It's speculation, but probably gonna happen
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they distributed a mew in Japan for the 10th anniversary of GSC. October is the american anniversary (or thereabouts) It's speculation, but probably gonna happen
Well it could but Japan also gets tons of stuff we dont.
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No different than people getting their fighting game skills down.
Yeah and I think the people that do that are idiots who miss the point of enjoying playing video games too.
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Yeah and I think the people that do that are idiots who miss the point of enjoying playing video games too.
It applies to f*cking everything though.

You can have fun with a soccer ball and eight friends in a park if you want to. But if you're dedicated and enjoy it enough, you're probably going to want to train for a league, or try to make it onto a professional team.

Ditto for video-games, or music, or writing, or absolutely anything with a competitive element. It's like drugs. Eventually you're going to do it enough so that you need a greater challenge to enjoy yourself.

The only difference is that training for soccer doesn't make you a huge nerd.
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But with sports you actually have the chance to accomplish something by becoming good at it. "I'm good at Contra" doesn't do anybody any good. When did writing become a competitive thing?

Spending 8 hours walking around in circles or studying frames of animation for a combo sounds dreadful. No thanks.
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But with sports you actually have the chance to accomplish something by becoming good at it. "I'm good at Contra" doesn't do anybody any good.
Contra's not a competitive game though (I mean directly, aside from high scores and times). But if it were, both would give you some small pipe dream of professional circuits and sponsorships, as stupid as that sounds. Regardless of that, even people not looking for professional play would begin to enjoy higher levels of competition. People who get reasonably good at soccer have more fun by playing other people who are reasonably good, and it escalates from there. Ditto for competitive video-games. Only one also makes you healthier and more socially acceptable, but whatever.

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When did writing become a competitive thing?
If it isn't, then I have been horribly misguided by all my professors in entering fiction competitions. Also, since unsolicited publishing was first invented.

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Spending 8 hours walking around in circles or studying frames of animation for a combo sounds dreadful. No thanks.
Point is, people can play competitive Pokemon if they want. The games are clearly made to facilitate it. Oh, and at least it's not Warcraft.

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