Why was Mikey's Nunchucks replaced in the Classic Cartoon? - Page 2

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 08-28-2010, 07:00 PM

Too violent for the UK market (who used censorship). But sais and swords were OK?

Lynn · 08-28-2010, 07:04 PM

Mikey's nunchucks were considered inapproproate for a young audience considering their violent connotation.

Fugitoid Jones · 08-31-2010, 08:01 PM

It's pretty silly because, aren't all weapons violent? How many weapons do you know that aren't all that violent? Sais, swords, bo staff, they're all violent. Maybe they should have used household items like vacuums and hair dryers to stop and contain enemies. Maybe everyone would be happy then. Except us kids, watching some lame show about Turtles using vacuums.

*gobo* · 08-31-2010, 09:06 PM

I can only guess the ideal of a non-violent weapon is the context in which it is used. So, ninjas using swords is more artsy than ninjas using chain-sticks, which, IIUC, is something invented to make Bruce Lee movies look cooler.

ooglafina · 08-31-2010, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fugitoid Jones

It's pretty silly because, aren't all weapons violent? How many weapons do you know that aren't all that violent? Sais, swords, bo staff, they're all violent. Maybe they should have used household items like vacuums and hair dryers to stop and contain enemies. Maybe everyone would be happy then. Except us kids, watching some lame show about Turtles using vacuums.

I'd watch ninjas fight with vacuums.

*Raph's Girl* · 08-31-2010, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fugitoid Jones

It's pretty silly because, aren't all weapons violent? How many weapons do you know that aren't all that violent? Sais, swords, bo staff, they're all violent. Maybe they should have used household items like vacuums and hair dryers to stop and contain enemies. Maybe everyone would be happy then. Except us kids, watching some lame show about Turtles using vacuums.

Well there WAS that one ep where the turtles didn't have their weopons so they used stuff they found in a broom closet... Raph kicked butt using spoons....

Sides.. Most ninja weopons didn't start out as weopons but farming tools. When the Damio banned swords the people started using whatever they had laying about. Sais are planting tools, Bo's are basically yolks, and nunchucks are used to beat rice and stuff.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 09-01-2010, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fugitoid Jones

It's pretty silly because, aren't all weapons violent? How many weapons do you know that aren't all that violent? Sais, swords, bo staff, they're all violent. Maybe they should have used household items like vacuums and hair dryers to stop and contain enemies. Maybe everyone would be happy then. Except us kids, watching some lame show about Turtles using vacuums.

Sounds more like the Ghostbusters. They used something like that to trap the ghoss inside.

The fear in the UK was actually that children would manufacture nunchuks at home.

ninjafowlkes8705 · 12-03-2010, 02:17 AM

that is bs besides Mikey , Leonardo Donatello and Raphael just have a grappling hook too unknown not just Michelangelo that is gay i stop watching it after season 4 at least the video game make more since to have his nunchucks in the game and the toys from 1988 - 1993 and the movies why i like 2003 they let him have his nunchucks.

*Discogod* · 12-03-2010, 02:59 AM

Basically the guy in charge of UK film & video classification had a mad hate for nunchaku and the word ninja (a guy named James Furman, BTW). Anything submitted to the British Board of Film Classification that featured either of these things was refused a certificate, which effectively banned it from the UK.

Nunchaku were seen as "easily imitable" - i.e. kid could easily make a pair out of some sticks and string.

This policy was relaxed after Furman's retirement, which led to the 2K3 series being shown uncut.

*gobo* · 12-03-2010, 12:46 PM

What I don't understand is why the 'chucks weren't edited out of the UK videogames since they were so taboo. Was the Mikey action figure distributed with a grappling hook over there or was that one of the ways UK audiences knew about their country's censoring of the concept? O_o

*Koi* · 12-03-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Redmage1987

they replaced Michelangelo's Nunchucks with that Grappling Hook of sorts.

I was thinking, could that be a source of inspiration for the Turtle Titan? Probably a long shot, but who knows.

*shuriken* · 12-03-2010, 01:03 PM

^^ Ya know that makes sense. As a way to poke fun at the censorship of the OT.

*gobo* · 12-03-2010, 01:30 PM

I agree. I've always thought the same thing. It's pretty obvious that they weren't above poking fun at the show that kick-started Turtlemania. This one was just a less obvious nod. Even I keep forgetting about it. But, Mikey being the only Turtle to regularly use a grappling hook in 2K3? That just has to be a reference. If not, it's a very amusing, happy accident.

nwafreak · 12-03-2010, 08:04 PM

I say Michelangelo should have used a pair of kamas after his chucks were edited out! I'd give him the kamas if I ever was able to achieve a dream of mine. A grown-ups only, no holds barred version of tmnt!! Plus, I always thought the kamas was an interesting weapon. Heh, me and my crazy dreams/ideas.

*Candy Kappa* · 12-03-2010, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by nwafreak

I say Michelangelo should have used a pair of kamas after his chucks were edited out! I'd give him the kamas if I ever was able to achieve a dream of mine. A grown-ups only, no holds barred version of tmnt!! Plus, I always thought the kamas was an interesting weapon. Heh, me and my crazy dreams/ideas.

He had that in Next Mutation

gah! never mind, I mixed Kama with Tonfa...

raphfan84 · 12-03-2010, 08:29 PM

This is about the dumbest shi! iv ever heard!! Out of all the weapons they complain about Nunchucks??? That's crazy in my OP a sword is more violent.

*gobo* · 12-03-2010, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by raphfan84

That's crazy in my OP a sword is more violent.

I believe the argument in the favor of swords is that they are historically more culturally relevant as weapons, and therefore put the 'art' in martial arts... from what I understaand.

*Candy Kappa* · 12-03-2010, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by raphfan84

This is about the dumbest shi! iv ever heard!! Out of all the weapons they complain about Nunchucks??? That's crazy in my OP a sword is more violent.

Nunchucks are a lot easier to duplicate by amateurs then swords

raphfan84 · 12-03-2010, 09:29 PM

Well yeah I guess I can see you guys point. But I like watching the Turtles use there weapons I wish they would not have took the chucks out. Didn't they take alot of weapon use out in the second movie?

*Hero* · 12-03-2010, 11:46 PM

Chucks were edited out of the UK release of Soul Blade on the PS1. How they remained in the UK released TMNT games is a blessing!

The Bruce Lee films also faced de-nunchucking too.

Watching the old toon uncensored these days is refreshing. It was'nt just nunchucks either cut out of the beeb broadcasts either, but all sorts of clips for whatever reason.

===HERO

08-28-2010, 07:00 PM	#21
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,480	Too violent for the UK market Too violent for the UK market (who used censorship). But sais and swords were OK?

08-31-2010, 08:01 PM	#23
Fugitoid Jones Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: D'hoonib, VT Posts: 886	It's pretty silly because, aren't all weapons violent? How many weapons do you know that aren't all that violent? Sais, swords, bo staff, they're all violent. Maybe they should have used household items like vacuums and hair dryers to stop and contain enemies. Maybe everyone would be happy then. Except us kids, watching some lame show about Turtles using vacuums. __________________ "You are right, I have always known about man. From the evidence, I believe his wisdom must walk hand and hand with his idiocy. His emotions must rule his brain. He must be a warlike creature who gives battle to everything around him, even himself." -Dr. Zaius

08-31-2010, 09:06 PM	#24
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	I can only guess the ideal of a non-violent weapon is the context in which it is used. So, ninjas using swords is more artsy than ninjas using chain-sticks, which, IIUC, is something invented to make Bruce Lee movies look cooler. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

12-03-2010, 02:17 AM	#28
ninjafowlkes8705 Thug Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 53	that is bs besides Mikey , Leonardo Donatello and Raphael just have a grappling hook too unknown not just Michelangelo that is gay i stop watching it after season 4 at least the video game make more since to have his nunchucks in the game and the toys from 1988 - 1993 and the movies why i like 2003 they let him have his nunchucks. Last edited by ninjafowlkes8705; 12-31-2010 at 12:12 AM. Reason: delete

12-03-2010, 12:46 PM	#30
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	What I don't understand is why the 'chucks weren't edited out of the UK videogames since they were so taboo. Was the Mikey action figure distributed with a grappling hook over there or was that one of the ways UK audiences knew about their country's censoring of the concept? O_o __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

08-28-2010, 07:04 PM	#22
Lynn Hench Mutant Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 269	Mikey's nunchucks were considered inapproproate for a young audience considering their violent connotation.

12-03-2010, 02:59 AM	#29
Discogod Resolutely Analogue. Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 1,707	Basically the guy in charge of UK film & video classification had a mad hate for nunchaku and the word ninja (a guy named James Furman, BTW). Anything submitted to the British Board of Film Classification that featured either of these things was refused a certificate, which effectively banned it from the UK. Nunchaku were seen as "easily imitable" - i.e. kid could easily make a pair out of some sticks and string. This policy was relaxed after Furman's retirement, which led to the 2K3 series being shown uncut.

12-03-2010, 01:03 PM	#32
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	^^ Ya know that makes sense. As a way to poke fun at the censorship of the OT. __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them

12-03-2010, 01:30 PM	#33
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	I agree. I've always thought the same thing. It's pretty obvious that they weren't above poking fun at the show that kick-started Turtlemania. This one was just a less obvious nod. Even I keep forgetting about it. But, Mikey being the only Turtle to regularly use a grappling hook in 2K3? That just has to be a reference. If not, it's a very amusing, happy accident. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

12-03-2010, 08:04 PM	#34
nwafreak Random Punk Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Lots of different places. Posts: 15	I say Michelangelo should have used a pair of kamas after his chucks were edited out! I'd give him the kamas if I ever was able to achieve a dream of mine. A grown-ups only, no holds barred version of tmnt!! Plus, I always thought the kamas was an interesting weapon. Heh, me and my crazy dreams/ideas.

12-03-2010, 08:29 PM	#36
raphfan84 Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Winston-Salem NC. Posts: 630	This is about the dumbest shi! iv ever heard!! Out of all the weapons they complain about Nunchucks??? That's crazy in my OP a sword is more violent.

12-03-2010, 09:29 PM	#39
raphfan84 Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Winston-Salem NC. Posts: 630	Well yeah I guess I can see you guys point. But I like watching the Turtles use there weapons I wish they would not have took the chucks out. Didn't they take alot of weapon use out in the second movie?

12-03-2010, 11:46 PM	#40
Hero British Bloke Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 2,298	Chucks were edited out of the UK release of Soul Blade on the PS1. How they remained in the UK released TMNT games is a blessing! The Bruce Lee films also faced de-nunchucking too. Watching the old toon uncensored these days is refreshing. It was'nt just nunchucks either cut out of the beeb broadcasts either, but all sorts of clips for whatever reason. ===HERO __________________ Go Green Machine My Facebook -My Tumblr - My Art - Figured 0ut - My Awesome Instagram