On a scale of 1-10, what is your level of confidence with Nick with the TMNT IP?

[Whitewolf89]

Originally Posted by ooglafina

Seems like they paid too much money to ruin it.

Very good point there, and you're right.

That's pretty much MY opinion, too, and why I gave them a "7". I have faith in them to NOT screw it up, but at the SAME time, I'm choosing to err on the side of caution.

Hey, Rob Paulsen voicing Donatello in the new Toon gives us SOME hope for optimism, doesn't it? (It does me, anyway.)

[CyberCubed]

Anyone who thinks Nick paid $60 million for the TMNT franchise just to treat it poorly is clearly some kind of an idiot.

From the sounds of things they want the new movie to be "huge" and a box-office hit, which is only a good thing.

The quality of the cartoon depends, but Nick is getting into action cartoons so something similar to the Archie series might be good.

[Whitewolf89]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Anyone who thinks Nick paid $60 million for the TMNT franchise just to treat it poorly is clearly some kind of an idiot.

VERY well put, hun, and I TOTALLY agree with you on every word!

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

From the sounds of things they want the new movie to be "huge" and a box-office hit, which is only a good thing.

Also good news, but, speaking just for myself, the notion that they want to go back and time and make a LIVE-ACTION movie with people in those heavy Turtle costumes has me a bit iffy on things. Now, IF they did it as a hybrid (ala Transformers; etc.), THAT would be okay. The other, like in the original three 90's movies...not so much.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The quality of the cartoon depends, but Nick is getting into action cartoons so something similar to the Archie series might be good.

Let's hope that the quality is good, but the other is good news, too.

If they turn it into a cross between Spongebob Squarepants and Danny Phantom, though, I'll be severely, SEVERELY P.O.ed.

[Koi]

Originally Posted by Whitewolf89

If they turn it into a cross between Spongebob Squarepants and Danny Phantom, though, I'll be severely, SEVERELY P.O.ed.

Hey, Danny Phantom was fun and enjoyable to watch. I love that gosh darn box ghost!

I think I said this before somewhere... stop comparing. It is irritating, TMNT will take on its own image in Nick. It won't be cooperating, and operating with all the other cartoons. It will be a different show, it won't be teenage mutant ninja rugrats, or sponges. It will just be TMNT but on a different channel, woopdeedoo.

People should let these discussions go down the toilet till we actually get something to have an opinion on.

[shuriken]

5. My expectations are pretty low. I think there will be things I like, and things I won't. Not expecting greatness, just something decent. Anything better is a pleasant surprise.

[CyberCubed]

Does anyone remember when 4kids got TMNT, people acted like it would be a kiddie show?

4kids was known for destroying anime and removing all violence/kiddiefying it, and look how the series turned out.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

4kids was known for destroying anime and removing all violence/kiddiefying it, and look how the series turned out.

EXACTLY. If I'd been around for the announcement that they were handling a new Turtles show, I would have been freaking at the time and not in a good way, and yet it turned out to be awesome. Hell, those butchers of anime gave us TURTLES FOREVER for crying out loud. It's almost enough for me to forgive them for One Piece.

...Almost.

[Kendamu]

-- tl;dr --
Kiddie stuff and casual entertainment for the masses: 10+
Stuff for the hardcore oldschool comic-loving fanbase: 0

-- Long version --

To further clarify my 7, I'm thinking along these lines:

As an action cartoon for children, I have a lot of faith in Nick. Based solely on this, I'd give them a 10.

Based solely on shirts and other merchandise whether it be for their new stuff or if it's part of some "retro line," I'd also give them a 10. I've seen what Turtles shirts and such look like now and I've seen the same for other Nick properties and they're all great.

Going off of video games and toys, another 10. Well, maybe an 8. The toys I've seen for other Nick properties look great. Licensed video games are always something to be iffy on until you actually play them, though.

When it comes to the new movie, I'm split on the issue. From the standpoint of generating tons of cash and making something that the masses will like, I have a lot of faith in Paramount to give us something that will do that. For me, it'll at least be a decent popcorn flick but I don't expect anything that the extremely tiny, super oldschool, hardcore fans who have stuck around for 15 years to really get into. Especially if you're mostly a fan of the comics. So, more like a 5 or a 6.

Speaking of the comics, that's where things get a super low rating. I have no faith in Nick to give TMNT to anyone who can do comics nor do I expect them to even try to get comics out there in the first place. Also, I don't expect to see a Mirage-published TMNT comic ever again.I'd love to be presently surprised, but I'm not expecting anything at all. This is where my fat 0 comes in.

If I had averaged it out from the beginning, that'd be about a 6.9. I didn't think it this far out initially and I just give it a 7 based on gut feelings. Either way, I'm gonig to enjoy what happens. Part of me is going to miss the old days where material was coming out for various audiences. The other part of me is likely going to love what's gonig to happen pretty soon.

[sdp]

If the show is half as good as Nickelodeon's Avatar, it'll be the best TMNT cartoon yet. Seriously, people need to quit generalizing Nick as "kiddy", sure its a kids channel but its actually been aiming mostly at girls/tweens in the past decade and this new decade to boys/action shows, the rugrats/slime decade was the 90s and thats what people keep thinking the new turtles show is going to be like. We haven't even seen anything and people already are blowing it off.

I'm going to go ahead and make a (safe)prediction..once we get character designs the majority of the forum are going to hate it, people will dismiss the show after the first few previews before the show airs and say it sucks and no matter how good the first episode will be it will be hated by most on this forum. The show will be good but most here will not like it, mostly since everyone here has a very specific view of what the turtles are for them, heck the division between OTrocks/sucks-2k3rocks/sucks-Miragerocks/sucks is already pretty big here.

[Kendamu]

When I say "kiddies" I mean "for kids." Avatar, DBZ Kai, etc. are great, but they're still kid shows and that's what I'm getting at. It's not anything bad, but I have to be very clear in what I mean due to the fact that there are so many types of TMNT fans. However, I do agree with your safe prediction.

[Cipher]

I have every confidence that they'll be able to spin a well-done children's show/franchise out of it. We'll probably get another decent to good action cartoon, which I could always go for, even if it does skew young.

For my own part, all they have to do to satisfy me is hand off reprint rights to another comic publisher so we get the goddamn trades Mirage never gave us. And haven't we already heard rumblings that they'd be kind-of sort-of maybe willing to do that? So, I'll consider myself square with the Nick IP if they can get that done. If I don't dig the new material, I can at least have the series I enjoy, and that'll be enough.

[John Pannozzi]

Originally Posted by Cipher

I have every confidence that they'll be able to spin a well-done children's show/franchise out of it. We'll probably get another decent to good action cartoon, which I could always go for, even if it does skew young.

For my own part, all they have to do to satisfy me is hand off reprint rights to another comic publisher so we get the goddamn trades Mirage never gave us. And haven't we already heard rumblings that they'd be kind-of sort-of maybe willing to do that? So, I'll consider myself square with the Nick IP if they can get that done. If I don't dig the new material, I can at least have the series I enjoy, and that'll be enough.

My sentiments exactly.

[Bjarni]

I voted 4.
I think Viacom is going to try to do their best but they are going to fail because they don't understand the product.

The fact that Michael Bay's Platinum Dunes is in control of the movie, I'd say they just want to make money and they don't care for good stories or character.

[CyberCubed]

Some of you sound really delusional about this.

Mirage/Laird/Murphy have stated they gave all the important materials over to Nick during the buy-out. Nick is well aware of every aspect of the TMNT property.

The only aspect Nick isn't pursuing right now is the comics, but that may change after the cartoon/movie is a hit, since that's what they're concentration on first.

And where is this, "they'll kiddify the cartoon," BS coming from? Both cartoons so far were aimed at kids, and most people here enjoyed them. The show is probably going to be a slightly more tightly-written show than the original cartoon was.

[Bjarni]

Is Viacom releasing any comics currently?

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Bjarni

Is Viacom releasing any comics currently?

No, duh. Read the above posts, haha.

[Voidoid]

I'll give it a 5. I'm neutral. I'm basically in the whole we'll see when it gets here mood.

[Cure]

I voted 8 because this is Nickelodeon we're talking about. They know how to make some pretty good stuff.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

And where is this, "they'll kiddify the cartoon," BS coming from? Both cartoons so far were aimed at kids, and most people here enjoyed them. The show is probably going to be a slightly more tightly-written show than the original cartoon was.

I actually agree with you here. Anyone who is still holding out hope for a fully "adult" show is super dumb.

[Voidoid]

Originally Posted by Cure

If anyone is still holding out hope for a fully "adult" show is super dumb.

On Nickelodeon no less.

[kev trashcan]

im not too sure about nick, i vote 3.