The Technodrome Forums

Go Back   The Technodrome Forums > General Forums > General Discussion > Current Events

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-07-2010, 05:03 PM   #1
Raph's Girl
Dierna Soul, Reporter
 
Raph's Girl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Jakku
Posts: 10,831
Christopher Columbus was Polish.....

Quote:
A new biography of Christopher Columbus claims that the man who discovered the Americas was neither Italian nor Spanish but the son of an exiled Polish king who lied to keep his real lineage secret.

Portuguese historian Manuel Rosa says he spent 20 years digging through medieval documents and genealogy for his book "Columbus: The Untold Story," published this month in Spain. A professor at Duke University in North Carolina, Rosa believes that Columbus was actually the son of exiled Polish King Vladislav III and a Portuguese noblewoman, and that he lied to protect his father's true identity.

Conventional wisdom has said that Columbus was from a family of humble Italian weavers, born in 1451 to Domenico Columbo, a weaver who also ran a cheese stall in the city of Genoa. But Rosa believes the explorer was able to woo monarchs into funding his seafaring adventures only because he was in fact descended from royalty himself -- from Poland.

He cites documents that he claims reveal that Columbus and his brother both had access to four European royal courts -- a rare feat for supposedly poor Genoese weavers. Rosa also believes that Columbus himself was married to a woman from the Portuguese aristocracy in 1479, years before his first Atlantic voyage, and that the marriage helped him secure contacts and funding for his trips.

"The sheer weight of the evidence presented makes the old tale of a Genoese wool-weaver so obviously unbelievable that only a fool would continue to insist on it," Rosa told London's Daily Mail newspaper.

In 1498, Columbus signed his last will and testament with the words "being I born in Genoa" -- but Rosa writes that the document is now believed to be a forgery, written 80 years after his 1506 death by Italians who wanted to lay claim to his legacy.

Rosa's work has caught the attention of National Geographic, which sent a producer to Spain and Portugal this month to begin researching a documentary on his findings, according to a press release from the book's publisher.

Columbus' ancestors have long been a topic of intrigue and speculation among historians. Even though the explorer claimed to have been born in Genoa to a textile family, other theories have claimed his true roots lie in Portugal, Greece, Spain or even Scotland. There's some evidence that Columbus sought to obscure his origins, which could reveal that he was really Jewish or a double agent working for the Portuguese royal family.

"Our whole understanding of Christopher Columbus has for 500 years been based on misinformation. We couldn't solve the mystery because we were looking for the wrong man, following lies that were spread intentionally to hide his true identity," Rosa told The Daily Telegraph.

The new book, Rosa's third about Columbus, says the great navigator's father was in fact Vladislav, who is long thought to have died in the Battle of Varna against the Ottomans in 1444. Rosa believes that he actually survived and fled to live in exile on the island of Madeira, a Portuguese territory, where he married a Portuguese noblewoman who gave birth to Columbus. On Madeira, Vladislav was known as "Henry the German," the book says.

Many paintings of Columbus show that he was red-haired, fair-skinned and blue-eyed -- all features more common in Poland than in Italy. Columbus' coat of arms was also strikingly similar to that of the Polish king, and a painting of the explorer housed in Seville, Spain, shows a crown hidden in his sleeve.

Rosa said there's plenty of evidence to support his theory, but his next project will try to back up his thesis indisputably -- with DNA evidence.

"I have made a request to the Cathedral in Krakov to examine remains from the tomb of Vladislav II, who could turn out to be the grandfather of Columbus," Rosa told the Telegraph. "It would prove the truth of my theory."
http://www.aolnews.com/world/article...-king/19735940

um.. sure yes... red hair totally proves he was Polish...sure...not like he could also be Scottish too...
__________________
Raph's Girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 06:39 PM   #2
Rikirk
Foot Soldier
 
Rikirk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Chicago
Posts: 208
So who do you believe anymore in this day and age. Anyone can say anything and make you believe it. My trust in anyone today only goes as far as I can throw em...
__________________
"Did you say mattress?...I did ask you not to, now I have to get into the fish tank and sing.

"Yes, yes I admit I tuned you out but in my defense its because I already figured out that youre stupid.'---Dr Rodney McKay - Stargate: Atlantis
Rikirk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 06:49 PM   #3
Candy Kappa
The Agenda of Existing
 
Candy Kappa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Vikingland
Posts: 14,596
It's interesting, but hair color don't say much, who kows who his grand-grand father is and so on. I wouldn't bet that he was of royal heritage.

and he didn't discover America, not even the first European
Candy Kappa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 09:22 PM   #4
ThirdMarioBro
Tea Time!
 
ThirdMarioBro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 8,905
All we know for a fact was that Columbus was a royal dick. That fact is of certainty.
__________________
ThirdMarioBro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 09:43 PM   #5
Katie
Just...way too serious.
 
Katie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: purgatory
Posts: 3,519
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro View Post
All we know for a fact was that Columbus was a royal dick. That fact is of certainty.
Didn't know you'd met him.

But seriously....there are a lot of accounts of him being strict.....but it was mainly because he was a strict religious man. He often held his crew to his beliefs and...if you don't share that level of passion it can seem a bit crazy. That and he was a suck a$$ leader.

So he thought it was his mission from god to save the poor ignorant locals.

Basically he was doing the same thing every other explorer in his time was.
__________________
Katie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 10:39 PM   #6
Raph's Girl
Dierna Soul, Reporter
 
Raph's Girl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Jakku
Posts: 10,831
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro View Post
All we know for a fact was that Columbus was a royal dick. That fact is of certainty.
Oh that's only cuz he captured and tortured Donatello for knowledge of the gold.
__________________
Raph's Girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 10:43 PM   #7
Candy Kappa
The Agenda of Existing
 
Candy Kappa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Vikingland
Posts: 14,596
that's evidence enough for me
Candy Kappa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2010, 03:42 AM   #8
ThirdMarioBro
Tea Time!
 
ThirdMarioBro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 8,905
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katie View Post
Didn't know you'd met him.

But seriously....there are a lot of accounts of him being strict.....but it was mainly because he was a strict religious man. He often held his crew to his beliefs and...if you don't share that level of passion it can seem a bit crazy. That and he was a suck a$$ leader.

So he thought it was his mission from god to save the poor ignorant locals.
Case and point.
__________________
ThirdMarioBro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2010, 11:43 AM   #9
BubblyShell22
Leo-holic
 
BubblyShell22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 16,912
Hair color doesn't say much. People will say anything. I'll believe it when I actually see it.
__________________
"A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One.

"Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.
BubblyShell22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2010, 01:57 AM   #10
Luzmagica
A Magic Light Dudette!
 
Luzmagica's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Spain.
Posts: 3,878
Curious! I didnt see that new around here... why it will be??...
__________________
Luzmagica is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:47 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.