Scratch and Hot Spot

Fugitoid Jones · 01-02-2011, 02:11 AM

Is anyone else nearly insulted at the lack of originality in these two characters? I mean, I get that Playmates was going for goofy, silly figures in the original TMNT line, but for some reason, these two stick out to me like a sore thumb. Not only do they seem unoriginal (a cat that's a burglar and a dalmation firefighter), but they look so damned cute, they look out of place. The moment I laid eyes on them, I just thought to myself "They probably spent 2 minutes coming up with these guys".

Anyway, I just want to know if I'm the only one that gets pissed at the sight of these two figures.

*Powder* · 01-02-2011, 02:16 AM

I don't get pissed, but I do feel the same as you do. I imagine most of the world did, too, as that's why they're rare. No one bought them back then. They were unoriginal characters put out at a time when the turtles were on their popularity decline. Not to mention that being said is the reason why less were produced.

But yeah, they're stupid. I can appreciate Scratch a lot more than Hotspot, though.

*oldmanwinters* · 01-02-2011, 02:33 AM

I do like Scratch, mostly because he sort of made it into the Archie Adventures comics under the name, "Hallowcat." Plus, his design looks pretty cool when its drawn a certain way:

Ryan Brown's "Scratch": Playmates' Toys Concept by oldmanwinters, on Flickr

1st Ever Drawing of "Scratch" by Ryan Brown by oldmanwinters, on Flickr

But, yeah, some of those random mutants in the toy line just felt so underdeveloped that even the most die-hard fans didn't have the urge to buy them back in the day.

Fugitoid Jones · 01-02-2011, 05:25 AM

That scetch of the Owl character would've been a pretty cool figure! I would've ate that sh!t up when I was a kid.

I'm just pissed cause this was the same toy manufacturer that came up with Ray Fillet, Mondo Gecko, Mountie Moose, Dr. El, Merdude, Dirtbag, Groundchuck, Pizzaface, and a bunch of other cool characters, and then we get Scratch and Hot Spot. Clearly the decline in TMNT popularity must have been a factor in the lack of thought into these characters.

JaffleMan · 01-02-2011, 07:07 AM

In defence of the toys I actually like them and at least some of their accessories made sense like the bag of loot for Scratch and all of hotpsots accessories... even though the cake gun is a bit out there... I just hated it when figures included useless accessories like napolean bonafrog for example, nothing he came with really seemed to make sense to me even though I do like the figure... im just wishing he came with somthing other than a fly squat a sheild and an eel.

I do agree both characters lack originality but I do enjoy the stereotyping... i'd rather playmates bring out a tonne of new characters using ideas and concepts that haver beenused and done before than weird wacky new versions of the four turtles.

Also I have a lees action figure review from way back when these 2 were released.... not sure if i remember this right but i'll have to dig it up but i thought there was an issue with the moulds for both of these two characters which reulted in the scarce production run...

I am not 100% as i might be confusing this with leatherhead which an earlier issue states that this happened however they rectified it whereas if it happened to hotspot and scratch they obiously couldnt be bothered.

And curiously the magazine stated hotspot was far scarcer than scratch and was far more sought after..... but they could of had their info wrong.

miyam0t0usagi · 01-02-2011, 08:15 AM

I liked hot spot, he WAS out of place how ever, Cute simple fire dog, and i bet they were watching a certain episode of ren and stimpy too when they came up with him.(2 stupid fire dogs) but scratch....he looks kinda feral and deranged and....yeah....lol

raphfan84 · 01-02-2011, 11:47 AM

I like Scratch. I think he is just an unusual looking figure but very neat at the same time, Hot Spot is cool too but I do not ever remember these guy's as a kid probably because I was already out of the TMNT scene at that time, but I def want them now.

Voidoid · 01-02-2011, 11:55 AM

While I agree that they look out of place I really like Scratch. Don't really care for Hot Spot as he just looks out of place but I really like Scratch's design. He just looks plain wacky and I love it. Hot Spot however is just too plain.

miyam0t0usagi · 01-02-2011, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by raphfan84

I like Scratch. I think he is just an unusual looking figure but very neat at the same time, Hot Spot is cool too but I do not ever remember these guy's as a kid probably because I was already out of the TMNT scene at that time, but I def want them now.

Same with me, i saw them and the newer storage shell turtles at a hardeware store during the turtles final wave.So i got storage shell ralph, if i knew the ywould have been worth something i would have picked them up, i also remember a bizarre giraffe who plays basket ball.Also i have no problem with scratch i think he just kinda looks...deranged lol, in a good way.

**Jester** · 01-02-2011, 01:26 PM

I'd have to say that Dr. El and Mountie Moose strike me as ridiculous, and maybe it's because they were characters, like Hot Spot (to a lesser extent Scratch, cause he's kinda cool, and might have Archie origins) and Half Court...oh gah Half Court, who were only toys and never went beyond that like Ray Fillet, Mondo Gecko, and others. (Though Pizza Face is the exception, but man was he wicked.)

Voidoid · 01-02-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by miyam0t0usagi

Same with me, i saw them and the newer storage shell turtles at a hardeware store during the turtles final wave.So i got storage shell ralph, if i knew the ywould have been worth something i would have picked them up, i also remember a bizarre giraffe who plays basket ball.Also i have no problem with scratch i think he just kinda looks...deranged lol, in a good way.

The bizarre giraffe who plays basketball is no other than.....

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SuperShredder · 01-02-2011, 02:18 PM

Half court is one of my favs in the basic lines of the old toons. Scrath is ok Hotspot is weak!

Voidoid · 01-02-2011, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperShredder

Half court is one of my favs in the basic lines of the old toons. Scrath is ok Hotspot is weak!

It's funny, despite all of the hate that Halfcourt gets, he's one of my favorite mutants from the old toy line as well. Though I like most of the **** Brown came up with.

But I say Doctor El > All other mutants from that line

P.P.S- I never noticed this before but it looks like Halfcourt stepped in his own **** with his right foot.

miyam0t0usagi · 01-02-2011, 02:23 PM

Yeah thats him lol he looked neat for what he was.

*BigApple3AM* · 01-02-2011, 02:57 PM

I like 'em. I'd take Scratch and Hotspot before something like the birthday turtles or turtle trolls any day of the week. I'd also take them above anything in the toy aisles today.

raphfan84 · 01-02-2011, 04:18 PM

Oh I agree with you on the B-Day turtles I never had any use for them. But the thing is I will probably buy them just to have them with my collection. As a kid though I hated them.

*The Fifth Turtle* · 01-02-2011, 04:55 PM

I like both of em. Sure they arent the best figures in the line but they are part of the TMNT franchise and because of it I dig em.

*sdp* · 01-02-2011, 05:24 PM

I saw Scratch at a store one weekend it must have been 1993, the TMNT were still very popular. I thought he was awesome, I spent the whole week thinking about how i would play with him and when the next weekend came and I went to the store to buy him I never saw him and I never did again, I was sad. So I disagree Scratch was awesome, Hotspot and that Jiraffe thing I'd agree they look terrible. I also hated that grotesque chef figure, I have no idea why I owned it, I'm guessing I never chose it and someone bought it for me but why would they chose that figure?
edit:wow the grotesque chef is called pizzaface and people actually like him? ugh.

Anyways I think TMNT was still strong during that time, it wasn't as huge but it was still big even if Power Rangers took most of its market it was still enough to hang around for a while.

SuperShredder · 01-02-2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Voidoid

It's funny, despite all of the hate that Halfcourt gets, he's one of my favorite mutants from the old toy line as well. Though I like most of the **** Brown came up with.

But I say Doctor El > All other mutants from that line

P.P.S- I never noticed this before but it looks like Halfcourt stepped in his own **** with his right foot.

If you put the pump gun in his arm and turn his neck partly sideways he looks ridiculous sweet! Also its a basketball on his shoe not ****. Lastly I take Halfcourt over Scratch any day.

miyam0t0usagi · 01-02-2011, 05:54 PM

lol The birthday turtles were a little much, honestly i just liked the commercials at that point, using the movie costumes for such silliness, like Ralphs used auto emporium

01-02-2011, 02:11 AM	#1
Fugitoid Jones Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: D'hoonib, VT Posts: 886	Scratch and Hot Spot Is anyone else nearly insulted at the lack of originality in these two characters? I mean, I get that Playmates was going for goofy, silly figures in the original TMNT line, but for some reason, these two stick out to me like a sore thumb. Not only do they seem unoriginal (a cat that's a burglar and a dalmation firefighter), but they look so damned cute, they look out of place. The moment I laid eyes on them, I just thought to myself "They probably spent 2 minutes coming up with these guys". Anyway, I just want to know if I'm the only one that gets pissed at the sight of these two figures. __________________ "You are right, I have always known about man. From the evidence, I believe his wisdom must walk hand and hand with his idiocy. His emotions must rule his brain. He must be a warlike creature who gives battle to everything around him, even himself." -Dr. Zaius

01-02-2011, 02:33 AM	#3
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,511	I do like Scratch, mostly because he sort of made it into the Archie Adventures comics under the name, "Hallowcat." Plus, his design looks pretty cool when its drawn a certain way: Ryan Brown's "Scratch": Playmates' Toys Concept by oldmanwinters, on Flickr 1st Ever Drawing of "Scratch" by Ryan Brown by oldmanwinters, on Flickr But, yeah, some of those random mutants in the toy line just felt so underdeveloped that even the most die-hard fans didn't have the urge to buy them back in the day. __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

01-02-2011, 05:25 AM	#4
Fugitoid Jones Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: D'hoonib, VT Posts: 886	That scetch of the Owl character would've been a pretty cool figure! I would've ate that sh!t up when I was a kid. I'm just pissed cause this was the same toy manufacturer that came up with Ray Fillet, Mondo Gecko, Mountie Moose, Dr. El, Merdude, Dirtbag, Groundchuck, Pizzaface, and a bunch of other cool characters, and then we get Scratch and Hot Spot. Clearly the decline in TMNT popularity must have been a factor in the lack of thought into these characters. __________________ "You are right, I have always known about man. From the evidence, I believe his wisdom must walk hand and hand with his idiocy. His emotions must rule his brain. He must be a warlike creature who gives battle to everything around him, even himself." -Dr. Zaius

01-02-2011, 08:15 AM	#6
miyam0t0usagi Foot Soldier Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Stuyvesant Ny Posts: 134	I liked hot spot, he WAS out of place how ever, Cute simple fire dog, and i bet they were watching a certain episode of ren and stimpy too when they came up with him.(2 stupid fire dogs) but scratch....he looks kinda feral and deranged and....yeah....lol __________________ Go Ninja Go Ninja GO! "I do hope theres more of them...(tosses apple core in the air)hm ALRIGHT"-Raphael

01-02-2011, 01:26 PM	#10
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	I'd have to say that Dr. El and Mountie Moose strike me as ridiculous, and maybe it's because they were characters, like Hot Spot (to a lesser extent Scratch, cause he's kinda cool, and might have Archie origins) and Half Court...oh gah Half Court, who were only toys and never went beyond that like Ray Fillet, Mondo Gecko, and others. (Though Pizza Face is the exception, but man was he wicked.) __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

01-02-2011, 02:16 AM	#2
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	I don't get pissed, but I do feel the same as you do. I imagine most of the world did, too, as that's why they're rare. No one bought them back then. They were unoriginal characters put out at a time when the turtles were on their popularity decline. Not to mention that being said is the reason why less were produced. But yeah, they're stupid. I can appreciate Scratch a lot more than Hotspot, though.

01-02-2011, 07:07 AM	#5
JaffleMan Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Portarlington, Vic Australia Posts: 761	In defence of the toys I actually like them and at least some of their accessories made sense like the bag of loot for Scratch and all of hotpsots accessories... even though the cake gun is a bit out there... I just hated it when figures included useless accessories like napolean bonafrog for example, nothing he came with really seemed to make sense to me even though I do like the figure... im just wishing he came with somthing other than a fly squat a sheild and an eel. I do agree both characters lack originality but I do enjoy the stereotyping... i'd rather playmates bring out a tonne of new characters using ideas and concepts that haver beenused and done before than weird wacky new versions of the four turtles. Also I have a lees action figure review from way back when these 2 were released.... not sure if i remember this right but i'll have to dig it up but i thought there was an issue with the moulds for both of these two characters which reulted in the scarce production run... I am not 100% as i might be confusing this with leatherhead which an earlier issue states that this happened however they rectified it whereas if it happened to hotspot and scratch they obiously couldnt be bothered. And curiously the magazine stated hotspot was far scarcer than scratch and was far more sought after..... but they could of had their info wrong.

01-02-2011, 11:47 AM	#7
raphfan84 Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Winston-Salem NC. Posts: 630	I like Scratch. I think he is just an unusual looking figure but very neat at the same time, Hot Spot is cool too but I do not ever remember these guy's as a kid probably because I was already out of the TMNT scene at that time, but I def want them now.

01-02-2011, 11:55 AM	#8
Voidoid Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 625	While I agree that they look out of place I really like Scratch. Don't really care for Hot Spot as he just looks out of place but I really like Scratch's design. He just looks plain wacky and I love it. Hot Spot however is just too plain.

01-02-2011, 02:18 PM	#12
SuperShredder Thug Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 61	Half court is one of my favs in the basic lines of the old toons. Scrath is ok Hotspot is weak!

01-02-2011, 02:23 PM	#14
miyam0t0usagi Foot Soldier Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Stuyvesant Ny Posts: 134	Yeah thats him lol he looked neat for what he was. __________________ Go Ninja Go Ninja GO! "I do hope theres more of them...(tosses apple core in the air)hm ALRIGHT"-Raphael

01-02-2011, 02:57 PM	#15
BigApple3AM Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Supermarket Aisle Posts: 1,635	I like 'em. I'd take Scratch and Hotspot before something like the birthday turtles or turtle trolls any day of the week. I'd also take them above anything in the toy aisles today.

01-02-2011, 04:18 PM	#16
raphfan84 Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Winston-Salem NC. Posts: 630	Oh I agree with you on the B-Day turtles I never had any use for them. But the thing is I will probably buy them just to have them with my collection. As a kid though I hated them.

01-02-2011, 04:55 PM	#17
The Fifth Turtle Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago sewer Posts: 2,488	I like both of em. Sure they arent the best figures in the line but they are part of the TMNT franchise and because of it I dig em.

01-02-2011, 05:24 PM	#18
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,227	I saw Scratch at a store one weekend it must have been 1993, the TMNT were still very popular. I thought he was awesome, I spent the whole week thinking about how i would play with him and when the next weekend came and I went to the store to buy him I never saw him and I never did again, I was sad. So I disagree Scratch was awesome, Hotspot and that Jiraffe thing I'd agree they look terrible. I also hated that grotesque chef figure, I have no idea why I owned it, I'm guessing I never chose it and someone bought it for me but why would they chose that figure? edit:wow the grotesque chef is called pizzaface and people actually like him? ugh. Anyways I think TMNT was still strong during that time, it wasn't as huge but it was still big even if Power Rangers took most of its market it was still enough to hang around for a while. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

01-02-2011, 05:54 PM	#20
miyam0t0usagi Foot Soldier Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Stuyvesant Ny Posts: 134	lol The birthday turtles were a little much, honestly i just liked the commercials at that point, using the movie costumes for such silliness, like Ralphs used auto emporium __________________ Go Ninja Go Ninja GO! "I do hope theres more of them...(tosses apple core in the air)hm ALRIGHT"-Raphael