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[wilddiverse]

Originally Posted by John Pannozzi

What are the contexts of the TMNT's appearances in Phantasy Against Hunger and Shadow of the Groundhog issue 1?

Shadow of the Groundhog-- The internet is correct: this comic is amateurish, violent, and has B&W & Red ink.
The only TMNT appearance is the cover of #6 on the wall at a comic book convention:


Phantasy Against Hunger's TMNT content is a pin-up by Solson's Don Secrease & Rich Buckler.
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[wilddiverse]

Shadow of the Groundhog is one of those So Bad It's Good But Mostly It's Bad comics.

[John Pannozzi]

Thanks so much for clearing up those mysteries.

But I still wonder if the TMNT's crossovers with Flaming Carrot, Creed and The Last of the Viking Heroes could be considered part of the Mirage Universe or not, especially considering Flaming Carrot was in Savage Dragon #41, which is in Spengler's Mirage timeline.

[DrSpengler]

Originally Posted by John Pannozzi

Thanks so much for clearing up those mysteries.

But I still wonder if the TMNT's crossovers with Flaming Carrot, Creed and The Last of the Viking Heroes could be considered part of the Mirage Universe or not, especially considering Flaming Carrot was in Savage Dragon #41, which is in Spengler's Mirage timeline.

I own both crossovers and I'll have to reread them, but I wouldn't take Flaming Carrots presence in Savage Dragon #41 to be definitive proof of anything.

The Scarecrow, the Tin Woodsman and the Cowardly Lion were *also* at the wedding in that issue and I don't think TMNT shares a continuity with the Wonderful Wizard of Oz...

[Bjarni]

Originally Posted by John Pannozzi

But I still wonder if the TMNT's crossovers with Flaming Carrot, Creed and The Last of the Viking Heroes could be considered part of the Mirage Universe

Peter Laird did a cover for Creed, don't know if that means anything, but if it's Laird approved doesn't that mean it's Mirage canon?

I haven't read the Flaming Carrot issues but the ones that weren't done for Mirage had the Turtles with their multi-color bandannas... so maybe that's less canon?
EDIT: Just reading Shell Shock, Michelangelo actually buys a Flaming Carrot comic...

[John Pannozzi]

Originally Posted by Bjarni

I haven't read the Flaming Carrot issues but the ones that weren't done for Mirage had the Turtles with their multi-color bandannas... so maybe that's less canon?

Only on the covers (one of which was done by Todd McFarlane, believe it or not), the actual stories were in black-and-white.

[azrael]

body count has a page printed twice in the book. Are images and heavy metal's release both like that?

[John Pannozzi]

Did any of Dan Berger's Gutwallow comic books (he published a 12-issue Volume one as well as 4-part volume two under Numbpress Press and later Digital Webbing published a 3-part miniseries called Gutwallow: Fury of the Furry) contain any back up stories? Wikipedia claims that Bog Swamp Demon appeared in backup stories in Gutwallow, but Dan Berger himself isn't sure.

[TheCanadiandrome]

where can i find the hardcover release of TMNT number 1?

[John Pannozzi]

Originally Posted by TMNT_Canadian

where can i find the hardcover release of TMNT number 1?

You mean the one published in 1992 that had an introduction by Harlan Ellison? Couldn't tell you, but I know the soft cover version is fairly easy to come by and may still be available on Mirage's online store.

P.S.; In comic book terminology, what's the difference between a trade paperback (TPB) and a soft cover (SC)?

And P.P.S., again, could somebody please answer my Gutwallow back up stories question?

[papa_smurf73]

Spoiler:

Originally Posted by papa_smurf73

Ok guys and gals. I'm getting my feet wet with the comic book world of TMNT. I have not read the original series, but I found someone who is selling issues 1-40 and a few spin offs from the original series.

Here is a part of my correspondence with the person I am working with:

Unfortunately my collection only consists of 1st printings starting
with the 4th issue and onward.

My first issue TMNT is a 4th printing, while my second issue is a 3rd
printing and my third issue is the 2nd printing.

I should note that I do have the 1st printing for the Raphael Micro
Series as well as the Fugitoid 1st printing (both of which have that
weird, folio-like larger size to them) . I also have several of the
"spin off" and 1-shot series that they did, including the Donatello,
Leonardo and Michaelangelo micro series. This includes a number of the
Gizmo comics that came from Mirage Studios (a tie-in with the Fugitoid
comic).

I'll also be honest with you that many of the comics are not boarded
and backed, although in fairness they have been in strict
climate-controlled conditions for the last 20+ years and are in decent
to good shape (to my untrained eye, of course).

It sounds like this guy knows what he has, and has taken considerable care of his collection (though I don't particularly think he is interested in them anymore so there really isn't an emotional attachment here).

Anyhow, I don't want to low ball him, and equally I do not want to pay a rediculous amount of money for these books. What do you think they are valued at, and what would you offer him?

If you read the spoiler above this comment will post will make more sense...

I just received some pictures from the gentleman selling his TMNT comics. I will leave a link below for your review. I'm such a noob to the comic book world of TMNT and was hoping I could get a final answer on a price for his books. I don't want to low ball him, and at the same time I don't want to spend a fortune. Someone else has suggested I offer $40 as a fair price. Do you still believe this is a fair offer based on his latest correspondence to me (see below)?

Just a reminder that I have the following distinct "volumes",
depending on how complete a collection you want, I'm not particular
about selling parts or all of it.

Solson Publications: Official Martial Arts Training Manuals plus How
to Draw TMNT

Teen. Mutant ninja Turtles 1 - 40, plus some of the 50 range and 60 range comics

Raphael, Michaelangelo, Donatello and Leonardo Micro-Series

Tales of the TMNT (1-7)

If you want, pick a specific issue and I'll take some pictures of it
for you. I'd rate the majority of these comics in used or slightly
used condition. None of them are what I would consider spotless or
pristine (comicspriceguide.com rates from 1-10, based on their system
I would rate my collection between 7 and 8 depending on issue, with
some around 5 or 6).

[wilddiverse]

Originally Posted by John Pannozzi

Did any of Dan Berger's Gutwallow comic books (he published a 12-issue Volume one as well as 4-part volume two under Numbpress Press and later Digital Webbing published a 3-part miniseries called Gutwallow: Fury of the Furry) contain any back up stories? Wikipedia claims that Bog Swamp Demon appeared in backup stories in Gutwallow, but Dan Berger himself isn't sure.

There were two three-part Bog Swamp Demon back-ups by Ryan Brown:
v1 #9, 11-12
v2 #2-4

[Venom]

A dollar a book seems rather fair since he admits the condition of most is probably Fair, and they are not bagged/boarded. The Solson books typically go for about $5 bagged/boarded, and depending on specific issues the price is all over the place, but typically in the $1-$8 range for the most part.

Originally Posted by papa_smurf73

I just received some pictures from the gentleman selling his TMNT comics. I will leave a link below for your review. I'm such a noob to the comic book world of TMNT and was hoping I could get a final answer on a price for his books. I don't want to low ball him, and at the same time I don't want to spend a fortune. Someone else has suggested I offer $40 as a fair price. Do you still believe this is a fair offer based on his latest correspondence to me (see below)?

[papa_smurf73]

Originally Posted by Venom

A dollar a book seems rather fair since he admits the condition of most is probably Fair, and they are not bagged/boarded. The Solson books typically go for about $5 bagged/boarded, and depending on specific issues the price is all over the place, but typically in the $1-$8 range for the most part.

Thank you for the response. I totally forgot the link:

Click Here to see some of the collection

[Bjarni]

Volume 1 is def were you should start reading the comic books. You can use sites such as MutantOoze or the official Mirage one to see the plot and stuff (if you only want to pick an handful then make sure to pick the ones that seem the most interested to you).

[Venom]

Those actually look to be in really nice shape! Start him off with a $1 a book to be fair, it you prefer to be a really aggressive negotiator try .85/book like Rose suggested. Heck, I see a couple of books I've been searching for mixed among the lot.

If the guy hasn't talked about shipping, those Flat Rate boxes the post office sells would probably be the best route since it's a nice sized lot. That's what Mirage typically uses on their large orders.

Originally Posted by papa_smurf73

Thank you for the response. I totally forgot the link:

Click Here to see some of the collection

[azrael]

body count (tpb) has a page printed twice in the book. Are images and heavy metal's release both like that or is it just heavy metals?

[Bjarni]

Originally Posted by azrael

body count (tpb) has a page printed twice in the book. Are images and heavy metal's release both like that or is it just heavy metals?

I'm guessing just Heavy Metal? I haven't read the Image one but I doubt that such a mistake would go unnoticed twice.

[Venom]

Originally Posted by azrael

body count (tpb) has a page printed twice in the book. Are images and heavy metal's release both like that or is it just heavy metals?

Heavy Metal's version only. This has been answered several times before.

[azrael]

just wanting to make sure it hasnt changed thanks bros