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Old 03-11-2011, 09:36 AM   #101
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^ya man i agree too, but i really think alot of people not really taking on to it right now, once they see it might just fall in love with it.
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Old 03-11-2011, 10:25 AM   #102
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The problem is CG gets dated really quickly especially
on low budget TV shows. If it isn't done well the show will look dated as crap in just a few years.

On the bright side at least it's not N64 graphics.
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Old 03-11-2011, 10:36 AM   #103
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They should go for the sketch/cel shaded look. I'm taking a 3D class right now and there's a way to put a thick black outline on everything to make it look hand drawn but it's still 3D. It looks good and will stay looking good for awhile. Problem with CG is people try to pass it off as real if they just make it look like a cartoon then you don't run into that problem. I know Nick isn't Pixar but the first Toy Story still looks good and there's no reason this show can't either.
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Old 03-11-2011, 10:36 AM   #104
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I apologize if this has been mentioned already, but does anyone else see alot of similarities between this:

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Old 03-11-2011, 10:38 AM   #105
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I don't think it really look like each other, if anything they both just have small coincidences.
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Old 03-11-2011, 10:41 AM   #106
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My first thought was it wasn't great, there is a lack of sub surface scattering or much in the way of shaders that I can see (maybe turtle skin wouldn't work like human skin with SSS anyway?). Also a lack of any kind of bump or detail on the skin or any type of texture other than the solid color.

Its almost like they tossed on some materials and didn't bother actually texturing the models; tho I am sure its just the style they are going for. I would assume is to make it easier to animate, no muscle suits or anything like that that I can tell. (It's also possible that they are just pre production model's like in the fight test that they did for the 2007 movie with Leo fighting Raph.)

After I watched it several times tho, I do kind of like the style and it seems somewhat mirage-esque. I have to admit I am liking it more and I am actually believing Nick may deliver a good TMNT show, I am happy that they are not making it like the 80's series. Perhaps it will be a little different than all the past iterations.

I like what they are doing with the show logo, although it made me want to see Eastman & Lairds instead of Nicks name (maybe the show will be darker). The models or at least the head remind me somewhat of Dario Brizuela turtle heads with the smaller lower face. Specifically in the Raph pic that was posted. The turtles themselves seem smaller kind of like the first issue but with a different style.

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I will mention these models are higher polygon counts than a ps2 or game cube game. While not detailed in texture or having any sort of displacement normal maps or anything I can see they are models that wouldn't be in a video game from last generation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udSLceu27F0 here is a little comparison with an in game model from last gen. Its also re assuring that nick spends upward of $600-$700 thousand on their animated shows per episode. I'll wager that they will look better than they do now in the show but its cool to see the direction its going.

I would lol if this turned out to be a fans interpretation of the image released earlier this week. They do look to be fairly simplistic models to make but I am sure that's not the case. On a side not I was going to make a joke in another topic about if they gave don a spear and they did in this video.
I think you said it better then I did, and more detailed.
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Old 03-11-2011, 10:42 AM   #107
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The problem is CG gets dated really quickly especially
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On the bright side at least it's not N64 graphics.
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Old 03-11-2011, 10:43 AM   #108
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The new series had a shot like that too, and so did some of the poster art for TMNT. It's a common shot.
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Old 03-11-2011, 10:53 AM   #109
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They should go for the sketch/cel shaded look. I'm taking a 3D class right now and there's a way to put a thick black outline on everything to make it look hand drawn but it's still 3D. It looks good and will stay looking good for awhile. Problem with CG is people try to pass it off as real if they just make it look like a cartoon then you don't run into that problem. I know Nick isn't Pixar but the first Toy Story still looks good and there's no reason this show can't either.
not a huge fan of Cel shading. Iron Man Armored Adventures got some funky shadows at times.
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Old 03-11-2011, 10:55 AM   #110
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The new series had a shot like that too, and so did some of the poster art for TMNT. It's a common shot.
Yeah, plus it's New York... It's not like its Gotham or Springfield from the Simpsons where you can just add whatever you want...

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Old 03-11-2011, 11:15 AM   #111
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The problem is CG gets dated really quickly especially
on low budget TV shows. If it isn't done well the show will look dated as crap in just a few years.

On the bright side at least it's not N64 graphics.
Most television looks dated as crap as time goes on, regardless of whether or not it's CG generated or hand drawn. Have you seen Batman the Animated Series recently? I don't know about you, but it's nowhere near as smooth animation wise as I remembering it being when it aired. Even the OT isn't as pretty now as it was back in the day.
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Old 03-11-2011, 11:26 AM   #112
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I've not seen anyone mention it yet but guys, look - no pupils! Wonder if Nick really did see the suggestion of no pupils in "battle stance" and pupils present in normal situations?
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Old 03-11-2011, 11:28 AM   #113
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some shows age less gracefully, as plastronCafe said; 3D or 2D, does not matter. it's about style. And I do think the nick stylization will look good over the years
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Old 03-11-2011, 12:08 PM   #114
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i think the series is going to look really well and be amazing once it comes out.
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Old 03-11-2011, 12:33 PM   #115
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Not sure how many people realize this, since I saw one pic here in this topic where it shows what I'm talking about... but Mike and Don's weapons are not always bladed. Check out my short review I did on Cowabunga Corner, with pics included.

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Old 03-11-2011, 01:58 PM   #116
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Eh, ain't very good animation - looks like it came from a computer game. Hopefully the finished product will look much better.
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Old 03-11-2011, 02:11 PM   #117
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If they use one million polygon for each model makes no difference for this art style.They looks like playdohs.I'm no cgi hater and I don't expect some quality level from dreamworks animation or pixar but seriously this really cheap.
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Old 03-11-2011, 02:15 PM   #118
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I love the weapon modifications. Seriously. Though I won't judge the CGI just yet since it's not final. I remember when they released an early image of the CGI from TMNT 2007 and I thought it looked terrible. Then the final images came out which look a whole lot better and slightly different from the teaser image. So I'll give it the benefit of the doubt.
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Old 03-11-2011, 02:28 PM   #119
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Yo, A Little Too Raph, that shot first came from Vol. 1 #1 page 9.

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Old 03-11-2011, 02:37 PM   #120
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OMG!! So nice preview!!! Thanks so much for the info!!!!

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Is that picture of Armeggeon for real?
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