4Kids cartoon or the Fred Wolf cartoon,Which series had the better rogues galleries.?

Keldor1578 · 04-02-2011, 12:47 AM

I going with the 4kids cartoon, Since the main villains were an actual threats to the turtles, compare to the Fred Wolf cartoon.

**Jester** · 04-02-2011, 12:57 AM

I guess for me "better" doesn't mean "bigger threat" as much as "more memorable." With that said...Fred Wolf, by a mile!

*Powder* · 04-02-2011, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I guess for me "better" doesn't mean "bigger threat" as much as "more memorable." With that said...Fred Wolf, by a mile!

Definitely this, but also better to me means cooler.

I'll take Groundchuck & Dirtbag over Touch & Go ANY DAY.

*Donnie* · 04-02-2011, 09:24 AM

4Kids...sorry roots!

*ToTheNines* · 04-02-2011, 09:39 AM

I voted 4kids. While I like the Fred Wolf rouges better, I thought 4kids made better use of theirs while the OT had a lot of wasted potential.

*PizzaPower* · 04-02-2011, 10:00 AM

im going to go with fred wolf.

cryan · 04-03-2011, 09:06 AM

Fred wolf sense I was there from day one.I do agree that the y2k3 version had more meaner villians.The OT villians were more memorable.Though some were forgetable(Captain Filtch comes to mind)

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*Candy Kappa* · 04-03-2011, 09:18 AM

The Fred Wolf cartoon had a much broader Rogues gallery then 4Kids had, but the 4Kids villains where more developed.

Then again Fred Wolf's villains where more memorable.

So for the sake of the poll I'll vote for the Fred Wolf cartoon

Keldor1578 · 04-05-2011, 02:17 AM

Even though the Fred wolf cartoon villains were more memorable compare to the 4Kids cartoon villains, i still prefer them to be a threats to the turtles.

Fugitoid Jones · 04-09-2011, 09:20 PM

Fred Wolf. It's hard to top Rock Soldiers, Slash, Groundchuck, Dirtbag and the OT version of Leatherhead.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 04-09-2011, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PizzaPower

im going to go with fred wolf.

ditto for me as well

rufus · 04-10-2011, 10:22 PM

Fred Wolf for me.

*Spitfire* · 04-11-2011, 12:03 AM

Tough call. If I'm going to measure both it's a matter of quantity over quality. The Fred Wolf villains were best outside the actual cartoon. The Slash everyone loves is the toy, the awesome Archie version, not the retarded one from the cartoon. That could be said for 90% of the rogues gallery.

If this is all encompassing you have to take all the lame mad scientists and stupid one off side villains into account. Fred Wolf has diversity but the quality of villains was a lot better in 2K3. They were more fleshed out and had stronger stories.

*CyberCubed* · 04-11-2011, 12:19 AM

The old series had much better villains:

Krang
Bebop
Rocksteady
General Traag/Rock Soldiers
Baxter as a fly
Rahzar/Tokka
Groundchuck
Dirtbag
Metalhead
Chrome Dome
Temperstra
Lord Dregg
Leatherhead
Rat King
Slash

Unfortunately most of these characters are only in a handful of episodes. The OT spent most of its eps on Shredder/Krang or generic mad scientists.

*Cowabunga Carl* · 04-11-2011, 12:27 AM

Yeah even though 2k3 used their villians better I would have to say Fred Wolf version had the better version. They are just so much more memerable. Slash is my favorite villian and he was only in a few eps.

*tone-master21* · 04-11-2011, 03:50 PM

I went with the Fred Wolf cartoon.

Bjarni · 04-11-2011, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I voted 4kids. While I like the Fred Wolf rouges better, I thought 4kids made better use of theirs while the OT had a lot of wasted potential.

My sentiments exactly.

TerranigmaFreak · 04-12-2011, 10:29 PM

Definitely have to go with Fred Wolf. Sure, not all of them are as well developed as 4Kids, but sometimes they were able to do so much with so little. Slash had what, 2 episodes? He's memorable as hell.

BentonGrey · 04-13-2011, 10:04 AM

I think that many of y'all have already hit the central issue here right on the head. The 4Kids villains were much more credible threats on the whole, but the original show's villains were just much more colorful and interesting. For me, the variety and vibrancy of the world the original show took place in is what has always grabbed me. A big part of that are the interesting villains that appeared in droves. So, I had to go with the Fred Wolf version. On the other hand, I agree with Spitfire, many of the OT characters, including their villains, were much more interesting OUTSIDE of the show, especially in the Archie comics.

*Scandia* · 04-17-2011, 07:09 PM

I put 4kids. Fred Wolf had too many one-shot underdeveloped comic relief villains du jour. 4Kids fleshed them out better.

04-02-2011, 12:47 AM	#1
Keldor1578 Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 265	4Kids cartoon or the Fred Wolf cartoon,Which series had the better rogues galleries.? I going with the 4kids cartoon, Since the main villains were an actual threats to the turtles, compare to the Fred Wolf cartoon.

04-02-2011, 12:57 AM	#2
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	I guess for me "better" doesn't mean "bigger threat" as much as "more memorable." With that said...Fred Wolf, by a mile! __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

04-02-2011, 10:00 AM	#6
PizzaPower Foot Elite Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pizza Parlor Posts: 3,200	im going to go with fred wolf. __________________ https://www.twitch.tv/turtlepizzapower

04-03-2011, 09:06 AM	#7
cryan Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Athens,AL Posts: 743	Fred wolf sense I was there from day one.I do agree that the y2k3 version had more meaner villians.The OT villians were more memorable.Though some were forgetable(Captain Filtch comes to mind).

04-03-2011, 09:18 AM	#8
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	The Fred Wolf cartoon had a much broader Rogues gallery then 4Kids had, but the 4Kids villains where more developed. Then again Fred Wolf's villains where more memorable. So for the sake of the poll I'll vote for the Fred Wolf cartoon __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

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04-02-2011, 09:24 AM	#4
Donnie Something from the Past Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York Posts: 3,256	4Kids...sorry roots!

04-02-2011, 09:39 AM	#5
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,344	I voted 4kids. While I like the Fred Wolf rouges better, I thought 4kids made better use of theirs while the OT had a lot of wasted potential.

04-05-2011, 02:17 AM	#9
Keldor1578 Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 265	Even though the Fred wolf cartoon villains were more memorable compare to the 4Kids cartoon villains, i still prefer them to be a threats to the turtles.

04-09-2011, 09:20 PM	#10
Fugitoid Jones Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: D'hoonib, VT Posts: 886	Fred Wolf. It's hard to top Rock Soldiers, Slash, Groundchuck, Dirtbag and the OT version of Leatherhead. __________________ "You are right, I have always known about man. From the evidence, I believe his wisdom must walk hand and hand with his idiocy. His emotions must rule his brain. He must be a warlike creature who gives battle to everything around him, even himself." -Dr. Zaius

04-10-2011, 10:22 PM	#12
rufus Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Lawrenceville,Georgia Posts: 780	Fred Wolf for me. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/edgartooms ^TMNT Stopmotions.

04-11-2011, 12:03 AM	#13
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Tough call. If I'm going to measure both it's a matter of quantity over quality. The Fred Wolf villains were best outside the actual cartoon. The Slash everyone loves is the toy, the awesome Archie version, not the retarded one from the cartoon. That could be said for 90% of the rogues gallery. If this is all encompassing you have to take all the lame mad scientists and stupid one off side villains into account. Fred Wolf has diversity but the quality of villains was a lot better in 2K3. They were more fleshed out and had stronger stories. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

04-11-2011, 12:19 AM	#14
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,870	The old series had much better villains: Krang Bebop Rocksteady General Traag/Rock Soldiers Baxter as a fly Rahzar/Tokka Groundchuck Dirtbag Metalhead Chrome Dome Temperstra Lord Dregg Leatherhead Rat King Slash Unfortunately most of these characters are only in a handful of episodes. The OT spent most of its eps on Shredder/Krang or generic mad scientists.

04-11-2011, 12:27 AM	#15
Cowabunga Carl Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,384	Yeah even though 2k3 used their villians better I would have to say Fred Wolf version had the better version. They are just so much more memerable. Slash is my favorite villian and he was only in a few eps.

04-11-2011, 03:50 PM	#16
tone-master21 Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,152	I went with the Fred Wolf cartoon. __________________

04-12-2011, 10:29 PM	#18
TerranigmaFreak Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 715	Definitely have to go with Fred Wolf. Sure, not all of them are as well developed as 4Kids, but sometimes they were able to do so much with so little. Slash had what, 2 episodes? He's memorable as hell. __________________ First footage of the new R rated TMNT movie.

04-13-2011, 10:04 AM	#19
BentonGrey Hench Mutant Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 263	I think that many of y'all have already hit the central issue here right on the head. The 4Kids villains were much more credible threats on the whole, but the original show's villains were just much more colorful and interesting. For me, the variety and vibrancy of the world the original show took place in is what has always grabbed me. A big part of that are the interesting villains that appeared in droves. So, I had to go with the Fred Wolf version. On the other hand, I agree with Spitfire, many of the OT characters, including their villains, were much more interesting OUTSIDE of the show, especially in the Archie comics.

04-17-2011, 07:09 PM	#20
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	I put 4kids. Fred Wolf had too many one-shot underdeveloped comic relief villains du jour. 4Kids fleshed them out better. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!