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[TobTurn]

Different heights has been done before with the Turtles. They were different in FF and BttS. But then again, those seasons were not really great.

Please, can someone give me a description of Shredder? Just 'he looks bad-ass' is not enough for me, although it's a good thing I've been told he's not a dumb fool like he was in the OT.
This Shredder vs Ch'rell, in bad-assness and looks, who wins?

[Donnie]

Originally Posted by TobTurn

Different heights has been done before with the Turtles. They were different in FF and BttS. But then again, those seasons were not really great.

I actually haven't seen either BTTS or FF sadly, but it seems the majority here regard it as sub-par to the regular 2k3 run.

Come to think of it, there was a *slight* height difference even in Mirage's TMNT V.1 #2, if anybody caught that...Donny and Raph seem to be the tallest and Leo is definitely the shortest. But this didn't last, and they all pretty much retained the same height throughout Mirage, if memory serves me correctly...

But like I said, it's not the height difference that really bothers me, it's who they give the height difference to, because it feeds into nonsense stereotypes. I know I'm looking too deep into this, and it's not a deal breaker for me, it's just annoying, and I'm an uber-fan boy-geek.

[plastroncafe]

This is one of those speculation things that Rose is worried someone's going to make and someone else is going to take as gospel truth, but I'm going to toss it into the wind anyways....with apologies in advance.

I don't see why there can't be BOTH Utroms and Kraang. Think Vulcans and Romulans. With the latter being the "evil" version of the former.

DonnyTMNT, methinks the geek doth protest too much. First, Mikey being the shortest is movie canon. So keeping him small could just be a throw back to that.

If you're looking for a place where Raph is the shortest, a la Wolverine, then look no further than the TMNT RPG. Raph's stats there list him as being smaller than everyone else...save Splinter.

I don't think "tall" automatically equates with "geeky", I think tall equates with being a teenager who hasn't filled out yet after a growth spurt.

But I get how this is a sensitive issue for you. Seriously, it's something I empathize with rather strongly. Imagine being a chick growing up in the 80s and not liking pastel colors, or identifying with female characters who are known for their boobs or needing constant rescue.

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Most of those things sound pretty horrible to me... but no surprise there, right?

They sound atrocious. I can't wait to see it.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by DonnyTMNT

"The Kraang" doesn't really bother me. I'm surprised Splinter's change isn't catching more heat, but I guess the consensus with that is "we'll see"?

Nah, we've just seen it before:

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I don't see why there can't be BOTH Utroms and Kraang. Think Vulcans and Romulans. With the latter being the "evil" version of the former.

You and me both:

Originally Posted by Jester

Yep, the only thing that still sticks in my craw right now is "The Kraang." I'm still holding out for this to be a rogue group of Utroms. I'm hoping the Vulcan/Romulan idea I had eariler comes to light...but who knows. If they were evil Utes with a leader named Krang (or even Kraang) I'd be happier than the whole Utrom race being evil and named the Kraangs.

Originally Posted by Jester

Is it odd that I just had a Vulcan/Romulan thought regarding the Kraang (ugh!) and the Utroms?

[Master Splinter]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

This is one of those speculation things that Rose is worried someone's going to make and someone else is going to take as gospel truth, but I'm going to toss it into the wind anyways....with apologies in advance.

I think as long as everyone understands that what is in the first post of this thread is fact (confirmed by Nick, or the TMNT newsies who went to the fan event Roseangelo, Vaughn Michael, JoeGro, Machias, Archon...)... everything else is either wishful thinking or just speculation...

-ms

[Donnie]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

DonnyTMNT, methinks the geek doth protest too much. First, Mikey being the shortest is movie canon. So keeping him small could just be a throw back to that.

If you're looking for a place where Raph is the shortest, a la Wolverine, then look no further than the TMNT RPG. Raph's stats there list him as being smaller than everyone else...save Splinter.

I don't think "tall" automatically equates with "geeky", I think tall equates with being a teenager who hasn't filled out yet after a growth spurt.

But I get how this is a sensitive issue for you. Seriously, it's something I empathize with rather strongly. Imagine being a chick growing up in the 80s and not liking pastel colors, or identifying with female characters who are known for their boobs or needing constant rescue.

I like your style, plastron! Fair point about Mikey from the movies, that totally slipped my mind...and glad to know at least you don't associate tall/gauky with geeky. Annnd at least you understand where I'm coming from.

I think I'm just going to keep in mind, if Nick is making them this young in age, their heights will fluctuate eventually as they grow (of course, if Nick sticks around with the show that long) and I'll just pretend they weren't trying to make Donny appear "smarter." (If they were going that angle, like I said somewhere earlier, I would have liked him to have goggles or glasses of sorts, although that doesn't really bode well with my argument in the first place...)

Haven't been versed in the TMNT RPG's...what doth you speaketh of?

[deadpoolRKO]

so I wonder if Casey Jones will end up with new weapons or at least new variations of his weapons.


His hockey sticks and baseball bats were on par with a bo staff and nunchuks , but i think he'd be a step behind all bladed weapons

[Jester]

Originally Posted by DonnyTMNT

Haven't been versed in the TMNT RPG's...what doth you speaketh of?

They were released in the late 80's they were used for TMNT table top gaming.
According to the book:
Raph is 4' 6" 150 lbs Leo is 4' 9" 150 lbs Don is 5' even 155 lbs and Mikey is 4' 8" 150 lbs.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by DonnyTMNT

I like your style, plastron! Fair point about Mikey from the movies, that totally slipped my mind...and glad to know at least you don't associate tall/gauky with geeky. Annnd at least you understand where I'm coming from.

I think I'm just going to keep in mind, if Nick is making them this young in age, their heights will fluctuate eventually as they grow (of course, if Nick sticks around with the show that long) and I'll just pretend they weren't trying to make Donny appear "smarter." (If they were going that angle, like I said somewhere earlier, I would have liked him to have goggles or glasses of sorts, although that doesn't really bode well with my argument in the first place...)

I'm kind of hoping that by making the turtles different sizes there's a greater chance we'll see them without their masks on. Which...is one of my personal fanboy squee-points. Truthfully I doubt it, but it's nice to dream.

And while I'm dreaming, I'll add a bit about a future episode where they're all much more similar in size, because they've evened out. Shadow will be there too.

Can I interest anyone in a pony while I'm at it?

Originally Posted by Jester

You and me both:

D'OH! *facepalm* I totally didn't see those!
Great minds think a like?
(also, reading is fundamental)

Originally Posted by Master Splinter

I think as long as everyone understands that what is in the first post of this thread is fact (confirmed by Nick, or the TMNT newsies who went to the fan event Roseangelo, Vaughn Michael, JoeGro, Machias, Archon...)... everything else is either wishful thinking or just speculation...

-ms

Yeah, I kind of figured...but wanted to cover my butt just the same.

[Jester]

DonnyTMNT, you might find this interesting:

Originally Posted by TMNT & Other Strangeness (1985)

Donatello is more interested in working out a troublesome computer program than fighting ninjas and robot mousers or whatever. Of all the Turtles, he rebels most strongly against killing. In a strange way, he is a pacifist ninja, and while his skill with a staff are highly honed, he would prefer not to use it against a living opponent.
Donatello gets off on gadgets and technology(Man…he really does do machines.-Jester) and many times he will sneak out at night and, using his ninja skills of silence and stealth, rummages through the dumpsters of electronics firms, gathering cast-off parts with which to construct his various devices. Although he lacks formal training, he is a natural inventive genius.
Donatello cares a great deal for his brother Turtles, but is the least clannish of them. He lives most of the time within his own head, thinking and dreaming of new things to build.

So yeah...Don's a "pacifist ninja." Interesting oxymoron, but you know.

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

D'OH! *facepalm* I totally didn't see those!
Great minds think a like?
(also, reading is fundamental)

S'alright. I'm a little surprised no one responded to it eariler, myself.

[Donnie]

Originally Posted by Jester

DonnyTMNT, you might find this interesting:

So yeah...Don's a "pacifist ninja." Interesting oxymoron, but you know.

Heck yes he is. I knew more evidence than what I've already cited would come to my defense in that argument. Thanks, Jester. By the way, I liked your little commentary in there!

[Jester]

Here is what the book says about the others:
Leonardo:
In the absence of Splinter, Leonardo is the leader of the turtles. He is a "take-charge" kind of guy who can size up a situation quickly. He excels at making plans that are complicated yet cleanly constructed, and most always work.
He is also a perfectionist; a trait that gets him into trouble. Leonardo performs his tasks with an efficiency that any man or turtle would be proud of, but there are times that he sees it as a source of shame and a "loss of face." He is always trying to live up to the ideal of his mentor, Splinter. Unfortunately, he has never really absorbed one of Splinter's most important teachings: that it is honorable to strive for perfection, but alright to ccasionally fail to reach that goal.
Leonardo also feels this loss of face when the other turtles do something wrong. He feels responsible for them and their actions. Of course, because of this, he goes nuts over Raphael's rages and craziness.
Leonardo is perhaps the smartest of the turtles, at least in all-around intelligence. He is a voracious reader, and has a very good memory. His favored weapon is the sword, though he is skilled with all weapons and techniques.

Raphael:
Raphael has some kind of minor insanity that makes him the "crazy" man of the group. He has problems being controlled and cannot even control himself. When agitated, he has a 75% chance of going into a "berserker" rage. It takes several melee rounds for him to recover himself. He's fine most of the time, but when he gets into a berserker rage, watch out! This makes him an awesome fighter, but also a little hard to live with.
He doesn't like this side of himself, but he can't yet control it. It is like a demon living inside him, barely kept in check. A large part of why Raphael hasn't yet killed himself, or any of the other turtles is due to his friendship with Michaelangelo. Michaelangelo is also
Raphael's main sparring partner. It is Michaelangelo's great love of life and fun that acts as a balance for Raphael's anger and depressions.
Raphael wants to make himself a better warrior. He practices alot, but he can't seem to keep from doing dangerous or foolhardy stunts. Though skilled in all ninjitsu techniques, his favorite weapon is the sai. He uses the Paired Sai in Leap Attacks as a master of Ninjitsu. As a fighter, Raphael is neither the most skillful (Leonardo is better) or the most talented (Michaelangelo is phenomenal), but he is the most deadly Ninja Turtle because of his raw energy.

Michelangelo:
Michaelangelo is the fun-loving turtle. He lives to enjoy life. He tends to hang out with Raphael rather than Leonardo or Donatello because they're too serious for him. He has a gentle, though mischievous nature and is not above playing practical jokes.
He reads comic books and science fiction and likes to sneak into movie theaters when they are playing double bills of "ET" and "Robin Hood." Michaelangelo would also be the Ninja Turtle most likely to play in a role-playing game. In short, he enjoys practicing his Ninja skills, but also enjoys just fooling around.
Michaelangelo also like to cook and it is he who prepares most of the turtles' meals. In many ways he is the hedonist and a sensualist, appreciative of pleasures of the flesh.
Michaelangelo likes rough and tumble stuff and gets into a good fight almost as much as Raphael. He enjoys sparring, and he and Raphael do a lot of this. He doesn't work as hard at the art of Ninjitsu as any of the others (except perhaps Donatello), but his naturally high Physical Prowess more than makes up for his lack of discipline. Michaelangelo is adept at all ninjitsu skills, but favors a pair on nunchaku

[Koi]

If this show is going to be more of a serious show. I can't wait to see what Rob Paulsen does as Don's voice. I personally haven't ever seen/heard Rob do anything serious.

[Roseangelo]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

This is one of those speculation things that Rose is worried someone's going to make and someone else is going to take as gospel truth, but I'm going to toss it into the wind anyways....with apologies in advance.

I have no problem with speculation clearly labeled as speculation, such as this. But if people start talking about how Vulcan and Romulus are in the new show, it's on you to right that wrong.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Roseangelo

I have no problem with speculation clearly labeled as speculation, such as this. But if people start talking about how Vulcan and Romulus are in the new show, it's on you to right that wrong.

If people think that, I have truly lost faith in our fan base.

[CyberCubed]

Here is my proposed idea for the aliens:

- They are Utroms who have betrayed their homeland and sided with Krang, the evil brain from Dimension X.

- Later on in the series, the "good" Utroms come to Earth, see their traitor counterparts who are working for Krang and/or Shredder, and a war ensues.

- This will later lead in to the introduction of the Triceratons and Fugitoid, where they fight over him and his teleportal device.

Because the way it is now, we're not really getting Krang in this new series. Its just a bunch of Utroms slightly redesigned. If you're going to use his name, people will want to see the REAL Krang.

Why can't there be a leader Krang who walks around in an Android Body similar to that of the OT? He can lead the evil Utroms.


Someone please pass this info along to Nick before it is too late.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by Master Splinter

Know that what is in the first post of this thread is fact (confirmed by Nick, or the TMNT newsies who went to the fan event Roseangelo, Vaughn Michael, JoeGro, Machias, Archon...)... everything else is either wishful thinking or just speculation...

-ms

I'm a tad behind on all the news.... where was it confirmed on ages and Krang being in the new show? Or is this all just the wishful thinking part?

[Roseangelo]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

I'm a tad behind on all the news.... where was it confirmed on ages and Krang being in the new show? Or is this all just the wishful thinking part?

http://ninja-pizza.blogspot.com/2011...iew-event.html

[Master Splinter]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

I'm a tad behind on all the news.... where was it confirmed on ages and Krang being in the new show? Or is this all just the wishful thinking part?

All of the info in the very first post has been confirmed by either Nickelodeon or by the forum members who have attended the Nickelodeon TMNT Fan Event earlier this month... Only the info in the first post is confirmed info... Note that it is still subject to change, what is posted is what is happening now... Everything else below the first post is either speculation or just fun conversation... Check out the links in the first post to read about the different members experiences going to the fan event...

-ms