Turtle Tuesdays by James Rolfe (AVGN)

[Revan]

Spoiler:

Originally Posted by John Pannozzi

A guy I know made a rather interesting response to James and Mike's video:

He seems to have a lot of ideas. Far too many. He keeps saying, "what I would do," but if he made the movie the way he wanted to, it would be a random incoherent mess with way too much $h*t going on. The audience would be lost and the movie would drag on for 7 hours.

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by Archon_Turtle

when it shows the guys playing with them as if they were kids, it reminds me of that school project that Spitfire did where he's on the floor playing with action figures while wearing a mask.

They wish they were that cool. Let's see them get their Grandmas to swear.

I didn't watch these videos yet. I got this gut feeling he would say crap I wouldn't agree with. He plays it off like he's a huge fan but I can tell he isn't. He just plays it up because it goes along with his whole retro 80's thing. I like his AVGN stuff, though lately it hasn't really been as funny as it once was.

My main issue with him doing these videos is ignorant people will think what he says is true. Any misinformation in his videos will be mistaken as fact. This is why if anyone should be doing reviews of the whole series it should be one of us, or hell all of us.

[Bjarni]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Yeah, pretty dumb. They keep saying they want a dark turtles movie, but you can only get so dark with such a cartoonish alien invasion story like that.

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I am shocked that James's friend Mike admitted to going into the theatre to see the first live-action movie having never seen a trailer and assuming it was simply going to be a cartoon. I guess he missed the "Hey, Dudes, this is No Cartoon!" tagline on the threatrical poster? Dang, that's pretty embarrassing.

I was hoping for something more of substance considering AVGN recently watched the whole OT series.

Originally Posted by FearlessLeader

They want the channel 6 crew but not Casey Jones??

Totally agree. Thought this was one of the weaker videos I've seen from James and Mike. Hopefully Turtle Tuesdays will be better as it goes along. He has me hyped seeing that he's going to do videos throughout the summer.

I also hope he talks at least somewhat about the comics.

[Revan]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

My main issue with him doing these videos is ignorant people will think what he says is true. Any misinformation in his videos will be mistaken as fact. This is why if anyone should be doing reviews of the whole series it should be one of us, or hell all of us.

Couldn't agree more. I hope his popularity doesn't help push his opinions. For my sake. I think I disagreed with everything he said.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

My main issue with him doing these videos is ignorant people will think what he says is true. Any misinformation in his videos will be mistaken as fact. This is why if anyone should be doing reviews of the whole series it should be one of us, or hell all of us.

Heh, couldn't agree more:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=33328

Unfortunately, no hardcore TMNT fan (or at least none of the members of this fourm) has as much cyber-influence as the AVGN.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Heh, couldn't agree more:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=33328

Unfortunately, no hardcore TMNT fan (or at least none of the members of this fourm) has as much cyber-influence as the AVGN.

Any reason to pimp the commentaries, eh Adam....

But seriously listen to the commentaries...and if you want to HELP!!!

[Spitfire]

No offense to you guys because you put hard work into those but the sound quality on them is very poor. The content is great you just need to work on recording it with better equipment. Sounds like they were done with a web cam mic, correct me if I'm wrong, maybe a headset.

I love the idea but we fans can do better. We can get a huge web presence too, it's actually not very hard. First we wait till he posts one of these videos on Youtube then we do a response, from the real fans, about what he's said wrong. Then we build from there. We could do Turtle Thursdays or something.

People want to see content and learn stuff they never knew. We need to make videos showing the old comics, the history of the creators, stuff about the toyline. We have so much knowledge here we just need to harness it. Plenty of people have camcorders that shoot HD now and while the mic may not be the best ever it'll be better then a standard computer mic.

If we worked at it we could easily do a weekly segment. One fan a week till we cycle through. Write scripts in advance and make sure everyone has a hand in them so we get the best product.

I'm getting way off track here. If anyone is interested though shoot me a PM and maybe we can pull something together.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

No offense to you guys because you put hard work into those but the sound quality on them is very poor. The content is great you just need to work on recording it with better equipment. Sounds like they were done with a web cam mic, correct me if I'm wrong, maybe a headset.

So true. You'll probably need to have the volume up high on most of them. Also, most of the early commentaries have compressed for file space concerns down to around 10 MB.

I think we've made improvement as of Planet of the Turtleoids, since Jester started recording our Skype call directly on his end. Try listening to that one and see if it isn't any better.

Originally Posted by Spitfire

I love the idea but we fans can do better. We can get a huge web presence too, it's actually not very hard. First we wait till he posts one of these videos on Youtube then we do a response, from the real fans, about what he's said wrong. Then we build from there. We could do Turtle Thursdays or something.

If you might allow me to return the constructive criticism, I'd like to point out that "response videos" to other people's media tend to end up pretty lame and consist of mostly petty nit-picks. I would rather see fans attempt to make their own positive contributions instead of telling other people "Hey, you're doin' it WRONG!"

[Icebot]

I hope he reviews the Red Sky seasons!

[Krutch]

So, there is one thing I agree with him about.

...

Raph should totally shout "F*CK!"

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

If you might allow me to return the constructive criticism, I'd like to point out that "response videos" to other people's media tend to end up pretty lame and consist of mostly petty nit-picks. I would rather see fans attempt to make their own positive contributions instead of telling other people "Hey, you're doin' it WRONG!"

That's true. Video responses are a good way to get noticed though. You piggy back off another video's success. If it's well made you can steal some audience members from the other video. If our job is to re-inform instead of point out how wrong the other person was we could probably raise interest. Pimp our own series. Just an idea.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

That's true. Video responses are a good way to get noticed though. You piggy back off another video's success. If it's well made you can steal some audience members from the other video. If our job is to re-inform instead of point out how wrong the other person was we could probably raise interest. Pimp our own series. Just an idea.

It's true that it is a means to get attention, and it's pretty prevalent all across Youtube. But it just isn't my style.

[Bjarni]

Originally Posted by Krutch

Raph should totally shout "F*CK!"

With Michael Bay producing, I can almost guarantee a "sh!t" and "bitch". That's what they said in Transformers.
And maybe a mom eats some pot brownies? and a good quality shot of chihuahuas having sex...

...I hope he has no creative input in the new film.

[Jester]

I've heard it's Bay's COMPANY and not the man himself, so yeah we should be safe.

[AT-Man]

Originally Posted by Jester

I've heard it's Bay's COMPANY and not the man himself, so yeah we should be safe.

Thank Yog-Sothoth! We want just his money, not him

[Berserker]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

He plays it off like he's a huge fan but I can tell he isn't. He just plays it up because it goes along with his whole retro 80's thing.

This is wrong. James has been doing TMNT stuff since 2003, including reviews for the old school movies and NES games. He's seen every single episode of the original series, he has them all on DVD and a lot on VHS, and he's reviewing the entire series for his TMNT special. He's talked a lot in the past about how TMNT influenced his childhood, and he's wanted to make this series for years now and is finally getting around to it. A poseur would have stopped at the pilot episodes.

People want to see content and learn stuff they never knew. We need to make videos showing the old comics, the history of the creators, stuff about the toyline. We have so much knowledge here we just need to harness it. Plenty of people have camcorders that shoot HD now and while the mic may not be the best ever it'll be better then a standard computer mic.

This is a good idea, but fans could have been making amazing TMNT videos since the dawn of Youtube... suddenly AVGN is making his series, and only now should the community spring to action?

[Jester]

Just because he reviewed the games and the movies, doesn't mean he knows jack about the Turtles.

I do agree that fans could make amazing videos....cause we have! It's just that now we can piggy back off of the AVGN...kinda sucks to have to do it, but non of us is as known as him. Face it, if he'd have done this and he wasn't James Rolfe, who would care?

[Koi]

Originally Posted by Bjarni

With Michael Bay producing, I can almost guarantee a "sh!t" and "bitch". That's what they said in Transformers.
And maybe a mom eats some pot brownies? and a good quality shot of chihuahuas having sex...

...I hope he has no creative input in the new film.

Look at the word I underlined. Now look at what you said.

Also. I agree with every damn word James said. I wouldn't mind any of what he said.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Jester

Just because he reviewed the games and the movies, doesn't mean he knows jack about the Turtles.

I have no doubt the AVGN is a genuine fan of the franchise (I don't really know anything about his buddy, Mike) and that, like most of us, he owned all that TMNT stuff as a kid. The thing is that he just doesn't pay attention to every aspect of the franchise like the comic books and the more recent TV shows. For the AVGN, his TMNT fandom is mostly nostalgia, trying to remember how he felt back in the day and how cool it might be to see those memories developed for an older audience (namely, himself in his 20-to-30-something entertainment tastes).

Generally speaking, most TMNT fans tend to favor one era of the franchise and either ignore or hold bias against other incarnations. It's pretty much the same way with me and super-heroes. I loved the DC Animated Universe cartoons of the 90s-00s but don't really have much knowledge about the history of the comics, the Superfriends, etc.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Orangey

Look at the word I underlined. Now look at what you said.

Producers acutally have a lot of input in movies. Thing is, Bay is going to be credited as "Executive Producer" just because it's his company.