The Sony Thread - Page 48

*Ninjinister* · 04-26-2011, 04:03 PM

Sony's made an announcement that personal info has been compromised, although they do not believe that includes financial info. Best to keep on your guard just in case, though, people (thankfully I'm always watching my stuff. You don't work in anti-fraud without learning to be paranoid).

Peanut · 04-26-2011, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ninjinister

I've seen phishing hit both Live and PSN before (and even Wii, believe it or not), but in several articles regarding this Sony thing, people have been commenting how the same thing happened to Live in '07. I believe at least one person sourced it and I never did read their link, and for the life of me I can't remember where I saw it. They could have been blowing smoke or just plain wrong, though.

Anyway, I really do fail to see how whether paying for it or not determines its security level. Please elaborate on that point.

Again, sh*t has happened with Live, but it has NEVER HAPPENED TO THIS DEGREE. Sony just put out a release saying pretty much everything of everyones has been taken, your credit card info included in the "maybe" pile. That's really f*cking great, right? Let's all defend that kind of absolute horsesh*t! It's alright that this is happening because something similar happened to Live half a decade ago!

And I'm not saying on a security level specifically. This is just yet another f*cking problem with PSN, that's my point. The service is awful, not just by standards set by Live, but in general. Every time you turn the thing on there's an update for some nonsense, or the service is down for maintenance, or you get some kind of error code, or the store won't update properly, or the downloads take 5 million years. This is on top of their awful friends/messaging system which is almost the entire point of an online service like this in the first place.

Honestly, anyone who defends PSN as a good service is living in complete f*cking denial, has never played on Live, or they're too cheap to spend the $60 a year.

Edit: And it's a f*cking joke to think that they just figured this out. They should have been telling people this happened a week ago.

Edit again: According to Arstechnica, Sony didn't actually encrypt any of their user information. They store it in a .txt file. What. The. ****?

*Cure* · 04-26-2011, 04:29 PM

Damn those hax0rz.

*Ninjinister* · 04-26-2011, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

Again, sh*t has happened with Live, but it has NEVER HAPPENED TO THIS DEGREE. Sony just put out a release saying pretty much everything of everyones has been taken, your credit card info included in the "maybe" pile. !

Right.

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And I'm not saying on a security level specifically. This is just yet another f*cking problem with PSN, that's my point. The service is awful, not just by standards set by Live, but in general. Every time you turn the thing on there's an update for some nonsense, or the service is down for maintenance, or you get some kind of error code, or the store won't update properly, or the downloads take 5 million years. This is on top of their awful friends/messaging system which is almost the entire point of an online service like this in the first place.

Gotcha. (although downloads don't take squat to download for me)

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Honestly, anyone who defends PSN as a good service is living in complete f*cking denial, has never played on Live, or they're too cheap to spend the $60 a year.

Ha ha, I don't use either for anything except for downloading. I'll take your word for it.

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Edit again: According to Arstechnica, Sony didn't actually encrypt any of their user information. They store it in a .txt file. What. The. ****?

You'd be surprised how often this actually happens.

Peanut · 04-26-2011, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ninjinister

Gotcha. (although downloads don't take squat to download for me)

They don't for me anywhere except PSN. It's really annoying and really messed up. I downloaded P3P for my PSP and it took at least an hour for the 1.whatever gig file.

And anyways, I don't want anyone to think this has anything to do with me hating Sony or anything, as people here are want to do. This is full on frustration that my personal information is floating around out there and Sony decided it was worth waiting a week before notifying anyone about it.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 04-26-2011, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

And anyways, I don't want anyone to think this has anything to do with me hating Sony or anything, as people here are want to do. This is full on frustration that my personal information is floating around out there and Sony decided it was worth waiting a week before notifying anyone about it.

this is true

*Ninjinister* · 04-26-2011, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

They don't for me anywhere except PSN. It's really annoying and really messed up. I downloaded P3P for my PSP and it took at least an hour for the 1.whatever gig file.

I've heard other people have the same complaint, but I've had zero problems (time-related or otherwise) with my downloads on any of my consoles. I'm going to chalk that up to a stroke of luck.

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And anyways, I don't want anyone to think this has anything to do with me hating Sony or anything, as people here are want to do. This is full on frustration that my personal information is floating around out there and Sony decided it was worth waiting a week before notifying anyone about it.

COMPLETELY understandable.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 04-26-2011, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ninjinister

I've had other people have the same complaint, but I've had zero problems (time-related or otherwise) with my downloads on any of my consoles. I'm going to chalk that up to a stroke of luck.

well i guess we're both lucky, as i've never had any problems with downloads either for any console

*JameO* · 04-27-2011, 05:19 AM

Yeah the service was disrupted in 2007, although I remember playing Rainbow Six in November 2007 and never remembered any service outage for me. And xbox live gave out arcade games to the ones affected from what it states online, not really too sure but it surely wasn't down for this long if it was at all. But never anything where they lost control of the security of their ENTIRE infrastructure. And in the beginning they were saying it was a simple Denial of Service attack, and now information being lost? And not to mention that there are quite a few people that have PSN paid accounts, for a service they can't even use. The timing was perfect too, long weekend, SOCOM was just released. GO SONY!

Also if you have an xbox now you can get live for 40 bucks from the dashboard. Less than 4 bucks a month, pocket change you end up wasting anyways.

*That Matt Guy* · 04-27-2011, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

They don't for me anywhere except PSN. It's really annoying and really messed up. I downloaded P3P for my PSP and it took at least an hour for the 1.whatever gig file.

I have the same problem.

Looks like I'll have to make some phone calls and cancel my credit card. F***ing hell.

deadpoolRKO · 04-27-2011, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

This is on top of their awful friends/messaging system which is almost the entire point of an online service like this in the first place.

that's definantly an issue with PSN , if you go on any PSN forum you'll find a thread about wanting a party chat / X game chat system which is probablly my fav. feature on XBL.

Also people have been wanting trophies on PSP games , but because the PSP is so easily hacked Sony knows they can't stop it so they won't integrate trophies.

*Duke* · 04-27-2011, 01:45 PM

I can't get over the fact Sony is saying that they don't think your credit card information was hacked. Like that's supposed to make people feel better. "Well we definitely lost all your personal information and there's also a slim possibility that your credit card information was lost too, but it's okay. We had all your personal information stored securely in a .txt file so what else could we have done?"

IamtheKnight · 04-27-2011, 02:48 PM

Would my psp be affected by this?

deadpoolRKO · 04-27-2011, 03:08 PM

Well , the first lawsuit has been filed against sony.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20057921-260.html

I wonder how many people are going to jump on this train

*TheCanadiandrome* · 04-27-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by deadpoolRKO

Well , the first lawsuit has been filed against sony.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20057921-260.html

I wonder how many people are going to jump on this train

well, wonder what'll happen

*Ninjinister* · 04-27-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by IamtheKnight

Would my psp be affected by this?

If you have a PSN account, you're affected.

Peanut · 04-27-2011, 07:31 PM

Now that I've gotten everything involving my credit card fixed I'm just interested in seeing how bad this gets. It's like Sony hasn't had a year without some kind of sh*tstorm brewing since the PS3 was announced.

IamtheKnight · 04-27-2011, 09:19 PM

So even If I enter the credit card information manually they could still get it's data?

*Cure* · 04-27-2011, 09:21 PM

As opposed to entering the info...automatically?

If you've ever used a card on PSN, you're hit.

*Candy Kappa* · 04-27-2011, 09:26 PM

good thing I'm broke!

seriously thought, Sony can go shove a crowbar up their a**es.

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JameO Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,753	Yeah the service was disrupted in 2007, although I remember playing Rainbow Six in November 2007 and never remembered any service outage for me. And xbox live gave out arcade games to the ones affected from what it states online, not really too sure but it surely wasn't down for this long if it was at all. But never anything where they lost control of the security of their ENTIRE infrastructure. And in the beginning they were saying it was a simple Denial of Service attack, and now information being lost? And not to mention that there are quite a few people that have PSN paid accounts, for a service they can't even use. The timing was perfect too, long weekend, SOCOM was just released. GO SONY! Also if you have an xbox now you can get live for 40 bucks from the dashboard. Less than 4 bucks a month, pocket change you end up wasting anyways. __________________ "Lie, Cheat & Steal, Atleast I'm Honest"

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Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	As opposed to entering the info...automatically? If you've ever used a card on PSN, you're hit. __________________

04-27-2011, 01:45 PM	#952
Duke Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,913	I can't get over the fact Sony is saying that they don't think your credit card information was hacked. Like that's supposed to make people feel better. "Well we definitely lost all your personal information and there's also a slim possibility that your credit card information was lost too, but it's okay. We had all your personal information stored securely in a .txt file so what else could we have done?"

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IamtheKnight Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gotham City Posts: 701	Would my psp be affected by this?

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Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Now that I've gotten everything involving my credit card fixed I'm just interested in seeing how bad this gets. It's like Sony hasn't had a year without some kind of sh*tstorm brewing since the PS3 was announced.

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IamtheKnight Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gotham City Posts: 701	So even If I enter the credit card information manually they could still get it's data?

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