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Old 05-06-2011, 12:49 AM   #1081
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Get cocky? Where the f*ck have you been? Did you never hear the "It's so good you'll get a second job just to afford one!" bullsh*t Sony trotted out along with the PS3? Their sh*tty attitude is arguably what put them in 3rd place this generation.
Yes. They had to GET cocky at some point. Maybe they always were. I did put questions marks lol.
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Old 05-07-2011, 08:10 AM   #1082
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PSN wasn't even behind a firewall, holy sh*t. I have a goddamned firewall.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/05/ps...nstalled-secu/
Finally it was uncovered! The reason behind it taking almost 4 days until they even knew they were compromised. Like others stated, free apparently meant keeping them unpatched for 3 months and no firewall. This just keeps getting worse and I truly don't know how Sony will ever bounce back from this. Like Peanut stated being already behind in the generation, and to have this bring them down completely. RIP Sony.
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Old 05-07-2011, 11:26 AM   #1083
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well .. even more disapointing news.

Playstation said at there press conference the PSN would be returning this week.

thursday they said they'd finished rebuilding the network

yesterday they said more test were required as " security is our priority "

so now they've taken away any timeframe for it being back up.

they just say it will be back up " soon "
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Old 05-07-2011, 11:30 AM   #1084
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They need to stop ****-teasing, shut up until they have good information, and make this thing work!
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Old 05-07-2011, 12:53 PM   #1085
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I want to know how soon, soon is, I'm tired of waiting for this sh*t to go online.
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Old 05-07-2011, 02:59 PM   #1086
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I want to know how soon, soon is, I'm tired of waiting for this sh*t to go online.
When the PS4 is out.
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Old 05-07-2011, 04:25 PM   #1087
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When the PS4 is out.
I wouldn't bet on it.
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Old 05-07-2011, 05:40 PM   #1088
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Why anyone is still looking forward to getting on PSN is beyond me.
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Old 05-07-2011, 08:01 PM   #1089
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I don't get it either. You don't have to be on PSN to play games so m not in any rush. Actually the only thing I use the internet for on that console is Little Big Planet. *shrugs*
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Old 05-07-2011, 09:24 PM   #1090
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I'd rather have them get their s**t fixed and do it right than have it asap.

(By the way all I'm looking forward to is getting my classic Jade costume I tried getting the day they took it down. I couldn't care less about anything else.)
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Old 05-07-2011, 10:33 PM   #1091
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Remember when PSN was good? Me either.

Seriously, the PS3's wireless has given me nothing but problems. It just randomly cuts out when I'm playing stuff online. I thought it was a router problem, but I tried a different one and I got the same thing. I never have this issue with Live. Granted, I have that connection wired.

I dunno, the PSN games are nice, I guess. I'd just rather play online games on 360.
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Old 05-07-2011, 10:48 PM   #1092
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I actually have had more problems with the Xbox live than PSN. (Which is why I stopped paying for XBL, sadly...)
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Old 05-07-2011, 11:16 PM   #1093
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Seriously, the PS3's wireless has given me nothing but problems. It just randomly cuts out when I'm playing stuff online. I thought it was a router problem, but I tried a different one and I got the same thing. I never have this issue with Live. Granted, I have that connection wired.
I had a lot of problems with it too, then I got it wired and now rarely have any connection issues.

I can't really comment on how "good" I think the PSN is because I mostly use it to play Battlefield on, and it serves that purpose fine. If I had a decent PC I'd be playing it on that rather than any console though.
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Old 05-08-2011, 04:47 AM   #1094
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Turned it on to play SOCOM 4 and to my surprise, they still have connections to the update server, so I was forced into a huge update as my console had been off for about 6 months. I ain't anxious for it to be back either, I can wait to play SOCOM online.

About the Xbox Live bit, I have had friends that had flaky issues with wireless as well, but from my view it looked like a router issue. I would rather run cable with repeaters everywhere than to go wireless. A major turning point for me is the large download times for updates that seem to be every week or so. Any xbox live update I received took a few seconds and I was back into my game again. It is almost like they are adding a service pack to the ps3 every week, insane! Anyways, this said I will still be playing games like SOCOM online with friends, but xbox live will always be the better online experience. Sure it has a price tag, but well worth it in my opinion. Now one thing I would like is dedicated servers, heck I would even pay extra monthly for each game if they had dedicated servers. Some games setup just doesn't seem to pick the right host (Black Ops) and leads to host changes and games being dropped.
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Old 05-08-2011, 08:57 AM   #1095
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Turned it on to play SOCOM 4 and to my surprise, they still have connections to the update server, so I was forced into a huge update as my console had been off for about 6 months. I ain't anxious for it to be back either, I can wait to play SOCOM online.

About the Xbox Live bit, I have had friends that had flaky issues with wireless as well, but from my view it looked like a router issue. I would rather run cable with repeaters everywhere than to go wireless. A major turning point for me is the large download times for updates that seem to be every week or so. Any xbox live update I received took a few seconds and I was back into my game again. It is almost like they are adding a service pack to the ps3 every week, insane! Anyways, this said I will still be playing games like SOCOM online with friends, but xbox live will always be the better online experience. Sure it has a price tag, but well worth it in my opinion. Now one thing I would like is dedicated servers, heck I would even pay extra monthly for each game if they had dedicated servers. Some games setup just doesn't seem to pick the right host (Black Ops) and leads to host changes and games being dropped.
Edit: So apparently the second day that they were in the blind, "computers rebooted at random times when they were not scheduled to", well that might be a key indication of it being compromised. And then there is people all over the web saying don't blame Sony, no network is safe. Yes this is true, but also if they did the updates like they were instructed to and also if they had installed things like firewalls or honeypots then they could have known a lot quicker of the break in and not leave your entire infrastructure open for 3 full days. There is no network unbreakable, but there is also no excuse for choosing to opt out of very neccessary pieces of equipment.

Edit 2: Apparently I am a n00b, sorry for the double post. Not enough sleep leads to dumb moves like this.
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Old 05-09-2011, 08:50 PM   #1096
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Turned it on to play SOCOM 4 and to my surprise, they still have connections to the update server, so I was forced into a huge update as my console had been off for about 6 months. I ain't anxious for it to be back either, I can wait to play SOCOM online.
The latest firmware update available at the time of press is always on the disc.

So, I guess now Sony is saying there may not be anything up until the 31st of the month. Less "fiasco" and more "crisis" at this point.
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Old 05-09-2011, 08:55 PM   #1097
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Old 05-10-2011, 02:10 AM   #1098
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So, I guess now Sony is saying there may not be anything up until the 31st of the month. Less "fiasco" and more "crisis" at this point.
When May 31st gets here they'll probably announce that they need another week.
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Old 05-10-2011, 04:47 AM   #1099
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The latest firmware update available at the time of press is always on the disc.

So, I guess now Sony is saying there may not be anything up until the 31st of the month. Less "fiasco" and more "crisis" at this point.
That is true, but was strange because I clicked the PSN network login and it said successful login, then did the update. But it would still download the update? Is the whole update on the disc, or is it a pointer to the server to download it? Either way, the 31st until everything is up? By then I might have SOCOM returned seeing it collect dust while I wait to play online.
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Old 05-10-2011, 08:19 PM   #1100
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It comes on the disc. You wouldn't even be able to play the game if you couldn't update your firmware and not everyone has their PS3 online, so they can't just screw over the majority of PS3 owners by having the only means to an update be online. I also wouldn't give too much notice to most of the things the PS3 says right now. Mine keeps telling me that Uncharted 2 just came out.

But who knows, they may have an update server chugging away somewhere, although I would be surprised.

Hopefully Sony decides to bring their European incentive over to the NA. Apparently they'll be giving PS3 owners the choice of 2 games out of a possible 5 and and PSP owners the choice of 2 games out of a possible 4. That's a pretty generous offer, depending of course one what choices are actually available. Free games is free games, though. I think straight up giving away free games is not only one of the only ways they're going to satisfy a lot of people, but it pretty much guarantees that everyone will be trying those games out on their PS3 as soon as possible, which works well in their favour.

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