What was up with that ripoff Battletoads???(& other ripo

beaker · 01-16-2003, 09:56 PM

I remember in the late 80's reading those funny TMNT parody comics like radioactive mutant hampsters, Miami Mice(ok, not a parody of TMNT but it was from that great mid 80's indie comic era, and eastman/laird were involved with a few issues) etc.

I also remember coming up with some joke ideas of 'samurai frogs'.

Then came the horrific early 90's...and lo and behold...WTF?!?!?

Battletoads? And this was even taken legitimately, with a cartoon and ill fated arcade and NES series. Man, I can imagine how Eastman and Laird felt. It woul dbe one thing if this was a funny ha ha sendoff meant as a parody, but they tried to establish it as some legitamate property. Heck they even got Technos/Tradewest to do a Double Dragon crossover. sad.
Then again I didnt care at all for Bucky O Hare or Cows of Moo Mesa...more TMNT wanna crap IMHO.

Anyone else think the Battletoads and other non parody ripoffs were
a sheer abomination?

*That Matt Guy* · 01-16-2003, 10:03 PM

I really don't think Battletoads was a ripoff, it was just a lame idea. But I do remember some really stupid show called Samuri Pizza Cats, now that is what I call a ripoff of TMNT.

Greed · 01-16-2003, 10:04 PM

I didn't mind the "ripoffs" hell I liked some of them

**Karpo_007** · 01-17-2003, 02:35 AM

Well If you think like that way the cartoon was a ripoff of the original TMNT...

*Raph* · 01-17-2003, 08:52 AM

Samurai Pizza Cats is definitly a Rip-off

The title song even says "They've got more fur then any turtle ever had"

Mmm that explains a lot

~~Reznorite420~~ · 01-17-2003, 08:57 AM

I'll admit, I hated how cheesy and overdone Battletoads was. Rash, Zits, and Pimple were somewhat disgusting names. At least the turtles had some dignity in their namesakes (Renaissance painters/artists). The 'toads, however, made very little sense. Oh, and Beaker, you also forgot to mention the Game Boy and Sega Geneis/Megadrive versions. In any case, the original arcade version was the only game even REMOTELY worth playing IMO. I also had no idea that there was a cartoon of it! At first I thought it was just a comic, or just a video game series. Wow, you really DO learn something new every day

raphael90 · 01-17-2003, 10:40 AM

Samurai Pizza Cats! LOL!

That sounds like a serious ripoff....was it funny? I don't know if I ever saw it or not.

tekcop · 01-17-2003, 10:51 AM

I actually like the Battletoads. Sure, they were a TMNT rip-off, but it was (and still is) a great game. Also, the cartoon series only lasted two episodes. I have both of them on tape.

By the way the Cow Boys of Moo Mesa were created by Ryan Brown and Dan Berger helped produce it. Your a Mirage fan, you should know those names.

Peanut · 01-17-2003, 10:58 AM

Bucky O Haire ruled! And Battletoads was a good game.

**Karpo_007** · 01-17-2003, 10:59 AM

Ryan Brown used to work on Tales of the TMNT series and well eveyone knows Dan berger.

Cherubae · 01-17-2003, 11:11 AM

The Samuari Pizza Cats (Kyatto Ninden Teyande - 1991) was a very cute anime from Japan

I wouldn't really classify it as an American Ninja Turtle rip-off like Battletoads. When it was localized the English theme song spoofed the Turtles because that's what was popular at the time.

- Cher

xZAOx · 01-17-2003, 12:15 PM

man, you people are insane. battletoads on the SNES was awesome!

INSANE.

**Karpo_007** · 01-17-2003, 12:19 PM

Yeah Battletodas was a good game. But I haven't seen the animated series.

*Nickokapo* · 01-17-2003, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raph

Samurai Pizza Cats is definitly a Rip-off

The title song even says "They've got more fur then any turtle ever had"

Mmm that explains a lot

they didn't said that in the original japanese version's theme, saban put that in the americanized version...i think they changed all the scripts too, y'know, all the dialog and stuff...and for once, i think it's the only americanized anime i like, as it was hilarious.
As for battletoads and other such shows, i dont think it was a ripoff, i loved that game

it was great, i've also liked their double dragon & battletoads game...there was a cartoon too i think, only 1 ep of it was made, but i cant find it.
I liked most of the toons you'd call 'rip off' anyways, so for me it's a good thing that they 'ripped tmnt off'

Yeah, im talking about cowboys of moo mesa, bucky o'hare, bikermices from mars, street sharks, because they weren't bad imo...of course there were some bad apples, like extreme dinosaurs imo, i didnt liked that one, but that's because i think it's boring, not just because 'it ripped tmnt off'.
If i would use your idea of what is a rip off, then i would say the tmnt anime is a rip off of saint seiya because they use armors.

~~Tokka-B~~ · 01-17-2003, 02:43 PM

Hey beaker, enough bashing early 90's man...those were the glory days of video game software....BattleToads is an awesome game. So was Double Dragon and they finally combined too, if you say battletoads copied tmnt, then tmnt copied double dragon, which was probly the first beat em up....There are always going to be copies, you gotta realize that, but some are good, and some are awful.

*Nickokapo* · 01-17-2003, 02:50 PM

True, it's called a genre, if we start saying everything was a rip off of everything...

Ok, maybe some of those shows did looked a lot like tmnt, but i think they were good...err most of them.

beaker · 01-17-2003, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokka

Hey beaker, enough bashing early 90's man...those were the glory days of video game software....BattleToads is an awesome game. So was Double Dragon and they finally combined too, if you say battletoads copied tmnt, then tmnt copied double dragon, which was probly the first beat em up....There are always going to be copies, you gotta realize that, but some are good, and some are awful.

First off, Double Dragon is from the late 80's...1987 to be exact. I remember dumping in a lot of allowance money when it first came out

Second, how could TMNT have copied Double Dragon? Eastman and LAird created the TMNT concept in 1984, Double Dragon debuted in the Spring of 1987 in Japan and later that year in the US.

And c'mon, you seriously dont think Battletoads is a ripoff/sendoff of the TMNT?(Battle Toads...Ninja turtles. 3 Ninja frogs, 4 ninja turtles?) It's just one of those embarassing things from the early 90's noone cares about anymore.

Yeah I know who was behind Moo Mesa, that doesnt mean I have to like it. To me it falls right in line with Bucky O haire, Samurai Pizza Cats, Biker Mice, BattleChoads, etc.

At any rate, thank goodness the BattleChoads didnt last that long.

**Karpo_007** · 01-17-2003, 04:08 PM

Sorry to be a Wise guy but the TMNT were created in 83. It was 84 when they published it.

~~Tokka-B~~ · 01-17-2003, 07:00 PM

You obviously don't know that I was talking about the video game the whole time, which was like in 1990 or something...So yes, they copied the video game from Double Dragon as every beat em up has.
Of course Battletoads was a rip-off of tmnt, I thought you already knew that, duh. It was still good though,

~~Reznorite420~~ · 01-17-2003, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokka

You obviously don't know that I was talking about the video game the whole time, which was like in 1990 or something...

Ah, but the TMNT game was released in 1989

01-16-2003, 09:56 PM	#1
beaker Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 483	What was up with that ripoff Battletoads???(& other ripo I remember in the late 80's reading those funny TMNT parody comics like radioactive mutant hampsters, Miami Mice(ok, not a parody of TMNT but it was from that great mid 80's indie comic era, and eastman/laird were involved with a few issues) etc. I also remember coming up with some joke ideas of 'samurai frogs'. Then came the horrific early 90's...and lo and behold...WTF?!?!? Battletoads? And this was even taken legitimately, with a cartoon and ill fated arcade and NES series. Man, I can imagine how Eastman and Laird felt. It woul dbe one thing if this was a funny ha ha sendoff meant as a parody, but they tried to establish it as some legitamate property. Heck they even got Technos/Tradewest to do a Double Dragon crossover. sad. Then again I didnt care at all for Bucky O Hare or Cows of Moo Mesa...more TMNT wanna crap IMHO. Anyone else think the Battletoads and other non parody ripoffs were a sheer abomination? __________________ .:\\.:beaker:.//:. let the 80's entropy begin!

01-16-2003, 10:04 PM	#3
Greed Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chicago, ILL Posts: 931	I didn't mind the "ripoffs" hell I liked some of them __________________ Why? Because they're blacker than the blackest black times infinity. (Formerly known as Slash89, go ahead think back you know me.)

01-17-2003, 08:52 AM	#5
Raph Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Netherlands, Rotterdam Posts: 1,888	Samurai Pizza Cats is definitly a Rip-off The title song even says "They've got more fur then any turtle ever had" Mmm that explains a lot __________________

01-17-2003, 10:40 AM	#7
raphael90 Stone Warrior Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: ...down in the sewer listening to Skinny Puppy... Posts: 618	ripoffs Samurai Pizza Cats! LOL! That sounds like a serious ripoff....was it funny? I don't know if I ever saw it or not. __________________ "Babies? These things haven't even been BORN yet!" -Raphael

01-17-2003, 11:11 AM	#11
Cherubae Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Oregon Posts: 169	The Samuari Pizza Cats (Kyatto Ninden Teyande - 1991) was a very cute anime from Japan I wouldn't really classify it as an American Ninja Turtle rip-off like Battletoads. When it was localized the English theme song spoofed the Turtles because that's what was popular at the time. - Cher __________________

01-16-2003, 10:03 PM	#2
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	I really don't think Battletoads was a ripoff, it was just a lame idea. But I do remember some really stupid show called Samuri Pizza Cats, now that is what I call a ripoff of TMNT.

01-17-2003, 02:35 AM	#4
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Well If you think like that way the cartoon was a ripoff of the original TMNT...

01-17-2003, 08:57 AM	#6
~~Reznorite420~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,851	I'll admit, I hated how cheesy and overdone Battletoads was. Rash, Zits, and Pimple were somewhat disgusting names. At least the turtles had some dignity in their namesakes (Renaissance painters/artists). The 'toads, however, made very little sense. Oh, and Beaker, you also forgot to mention the Game Boy and Sega Geneis/Megadrive versions. In any case, the original arcade version was the only game even REMOTELY worth playing IMO. I also had no idea that there was a cartoon of it! At first I thought it was just a comic, or just a video game series. Wow, you really DO learn something new every day

01-17-2003, 10:51 AM	#8
tekcop Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 334	I actually like the Battletoads. Sure, they were a TMNT rip-off, but it was (and still is) a great game. Also, the cartoon series only lasted two episodes. I have both of them on tape. By the way the Cow Boys of Moo Mesa were created by Ryan Brown and Dan Berger helped produce it. Your a Mirage fan, you should know those names.

01-17-2003, 10:58 AM	#9
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Bucky O Haire ruled! And Battletoads was a good game.

01-17-2003, 10:59 AM	#10
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Ryan Brown used to work on Tales of the TMNT series and well eveyone knows Dan berger.

01-17-2003, 12:15 PM	#12
xZAOx Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: TN Posts: 842	man, you people are insane. battletoads on the SNES was awesome! INSANE.

01-17-2003, 12:19 PM	#13
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yeah Battletodas was a good game. But I haven't seen the animated series.

01-17-2003, 02:43 PM	#15
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	Hey beaker, enough bashing early 90's man...those were the glory days of video game software....BattleToads is an awesome game. So was Double Dragon and they finally combined too, if you say battletoads copied tmnt, then tmnt copied double dragon, which was probly the first beat em up....There are always going to be copies, you gotta realize that, but some are good, and some are awful.

01-17-2003, 02:50 PM	#16
Nickokapo Emperor Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Argentina Posts: 5,802	True, it's called a genre, if we start saying everything was a rip off of everything... Ok, maybe some of those shows did looked a lot like tmnt, but i think they were good...err most of them. __________________

01-17-2003, 04:08 PM	#18
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Sorry to be a Wise guy but the TMNT were created in 83. It was 84 when they published it.

01-17-2003, 07:00 PM	#19
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	You obviously don't know that I was talking about the video game the whole time, which was like in 1990 or something...So yes, they copied the video game from Double Dragon as every beat em up has. Of course Battletoads was a rip-off of tmnt, I thought you already knew that, duh. It was still good though,