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Old 04-27-2011, 10:48 PM   #21
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I watched it a little, but I jumped in during the Bu saga...so yeah....

Do love DBZ Abridged though.
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:49 PM   #22
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I started with Dragon Ball back in the early 90s, DBZ in the mid 90s and GT in the late 90s. I gotta admit it kinda bothers me when people started with DBZ and then bash the original :b The original is simply classic, and while DBZ was awesome, looking back its harder to watch through since its rather bland and predictable. The original is simply such a fun series. Also I actually enjoy GT, it seemed to try to go back to the original for inspiration and I thought it worked, I also thought it had plenty of interesting stuff and fights, is it flawed? sure but so is DBZ, maybe it doesn't stand out as much as the other two series but its not deserving of the hate it gets.
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Old 04-28-2011, 01:58 AM   #23
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I'm going through DB for the first time right now. I like it quite a bit. DBZ got a little over the top towards the end, with everyone becoming mystical super saiyans. GT I didn't bother with, since, by then, all the characters were strong enough to blow the planet up with a fart, it seemed a little too. . . over done, I guess.

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I really enjoy the Dragonball universe, and I agree that Vegeta is awesome. He's one of the unsung heroes of the series, I'd say. He's also the one who changes the most over the course of the series.

I find the Cell saga to be one of my favorite sagas, for sure. It was incredibly surprising to find that Gohan would be the one to save everyone in that particular instance. Great stuff.
I agree with the Vegeta sentiments, but I always bothered by his character's evolution into a coward. Every time some new villain showed up, he would whine about how impossible it is to defeat him. Anyone else feel like he got a bum deal in that regard?

I really began to admire him in the Freeza saga, as he used his cunning more so than his power to beat his opponents.
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Old 04-28-2011, 02:09 AM   #24
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I agree with the Vegeta sentiments, but I always bothered by his character's evolution into a coward. Every time some new villain showed up, he would whine about how impossible it is to defeat him. Anyone else feel like he got a bum deal in that regard?
Yeah, it's both truth and annoying.

But it is interesting that Goku never defeated Vegeta in a one-on-one fight, despite Vegeta's ever persistent inferiority complex at being surpassed by a third-class Saiyen.
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:41 AM   #25
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i love dragonball z , dbz budokai tenkaichi 3 was my favorite game for a long time , it had soo many characters. I don't know how many nights me and my friends spent doing tournaments and stuff. it was so fun.

I remember coming home from school , doing hw , and eating dinner when DBZ came on toonami.

I really didn't like GT. It was just really lame to me and the whole hooking up to a machine to go SS4 was just dumb to me.

I really liked the movies too , the tree of might , the cooler movies , ect.

Vegeta def. was made into this guy whose goal in life was to be better than Goku. His whole character was basically a perspective to make Goku look strong.

but he had his moments where he was awesome.

my fav. was Gohan for a long time but He was so lame after the cell saga i started to dislike him. So i guess Teen Gohan is my fav. Followed closely by Piccolo.


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Old 04-28-2011, 09:19 AM   #26
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Old 04-28-2011, 10:18 AM   #27
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I like Dragon Ball/Z/GT okay. I was a bigger fan of Dragon Ball, though, because it was funnier. No idea how the dub handled it, though. Same goes for GT (dub wise, don't know how it was handled or the Buu saga of Z). For GT, I liked it in the very beginning, because it had a real Dragon Ball feel to it, but then it started going the Z route, and it turned me off from it.
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Old 04-28-2011, 01:23 PM   #28
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Trying to remember what my favorite arc was, I keep thinking... Super 17 from GT. I guess that's for the same reason that my favorite 4Kids TMNT ep is "DNA is Thicker than Water" from the similarly, mostly lame "Fast Forward" rebranding of the show.
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That's because Goku is the power of humility personified.
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Old 04-28-2011, 01:32 PM   #29
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I love the series overal, it got me into anime so it will always have a special place in my heart
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Old 04-28-2011, 02:29 PM   #30
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i've read some of the Manga, watched all the shows, so yeah i'm a fan of the DB Universe
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:43 PM   #31
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I agree with the Vegeta sentiments, but I always bothered by his character's evolution into a coward. Every time some new villain showed up, he would whine about how impossible it is to defeat him. Anyone else feel like he got a bum deal in that regard?
Yeah. That and he always seemed to have this epic power up for like 5 episodes only for the villain to dodge or block it. SMH. They made him out to look like a fool. They should have let him have that victory,just once.

Like when he sacrificed himself when fighting Fat Buu. He had that epic speech,and even said he was doing it for Goku, only to die and look like a fool. Damn!
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I started with Dragon Ball back in the early 90s, DBZ in the mid 90s and GT in the late 90s. I gotta admit it kinda bothers me when people started with DBZ and then bash the original :b The original is simply classic, and while DBZ was awesome, looking back its harder to watch through since its rather bland and predictable. The original is simply such a fun series. Also I actually enjoy GT, it seemed to try to go back to the original for inspiration and I thought it worked, I also thought it had plenty of interesting stuff and fights, is it flawed? sure but so is DBZ, maybe it doesn't stand out as much as the other two series but its not deserving of the hate it gets.
I agree. I for one really enjoyed GT. I gotta admit, Super Saiyan 4 is prob my favorite SSJ form next to SSJ2. I just love the look of it. But GT had to live up to Z which was hard. And Akira Toriyama not having much input with the show I think turned people off from it from the start. But, it is Dragonball, and as a story everything jives.
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:18 AM   #32
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I forgot to mention my favorite Z saga, and that's the Super Saiya-jin Saga because, to me, it was one of the few sagas in Z that was done right. The full focus was on Gohan, like it should have been.

Oh, did anyone here see that special that takes place after the Buu saga which introduces us to Vegeta's younger brother Teeburu (Table)? Dragon Ball: Ossu! Kaette Kita Son Goku to Nakamatachi!! It was out back in 2008. It was really fun to watch. Everyone was pretty much in it and Toriyama had input with it, so I guess you can consider it "canon".
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I just love the look of it. But GT had to live up to Z which was hard. And Akira Toriyama not having much input with the show I think turned people off from it from the start. But, it is Dragonball, and as a story everything jives.
Toriyama had no input with the show. It was all anime-original and not even considered canon by most fans since Toriyama had nothing to do with it. Toriyama, originally, wanted to end his manga after the Cell saga, but was urged to keep going, and then we got the Buu saga. After the Buu saga, he was like, "Okay, no more!!" We then get Toei coming out with another animated series based on absolutely nothing by Toriyama, to keep the fans of the actual animated series happy.
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So since we've got this dbz thread going

did anyone watch that live action movie?

I never could make myself watch it
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Old 04-29-2011, 11:02 AM   #34
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I watched it, and contrary to most people I thought all the changes were fine, Dragon Ball is way too cartoony and out there to make a serious movie and not make it look like a parody. So I disagreed with people that think the changes ruined the movie. Now I thought I would like the movie since I liked the changes but that was the problem, the movie is just boring, its not mind numbingly bad and the changes work but it just bores you.
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Old 04-29-2011, 11:34 AM   #35
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I really liked DBZ growing up. But after watching it again it's really not that great. Sure it's fun to watch but especially watching 4-5 episodes at a time it gets really annoying when someone is charging up their power levels and 2-5 people are gawking at how powerful he/she is (who am I kidding he).
I enjoy Dragonball a lot more. It has a better flow to it than DBZ did IMO. I loved the fact that they actually showed a (3 of them! and Goku only won once!) tournament and the Red Ribbon army is pretty awesome. The simple fact that Goku or general Tao didn't charge up their power levels for 4 episodes was defenitely a plus. Yamcha was actually my favorite character in that show but by the time DBZ came around he was pretty much useless. And got his girl snatched up by Vegeta. Gohan was my favorite in DBZ even after the Cell saga. it's nice to know that someone has a life outside of fighting. Mr. Satan was hilarious as well.
I watched GT but it was way over the top by then. Goku turning into a kid and Vegeta regressing back into his inferiority complex as well as the awful 7 dragons arc straight up sucked. Plus Baby, ugh how I hate Baby. The best thing to come from that series was the Super 17 saga and the super Saiyin 4 design.

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Old 04-29-2011, 11:46 AM   #36
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So since we've got this dbz thread going

did anyone watch that live action movie?

I never could make myself watch it
me either. and i never got too much into DBGT
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Toriyama had no input with the show. It was all anime-original and not even considered canon by most fans since Toriyama had nothing to do with it. Toriyama, originally, wanted to end his manga after the Cell saga, but was urged to keep going, and then we got the Buu saga. After the Buu saga, he was like, "Okay, no more!!" We then get Toei coming out with another animated series based on absolutely nothing by Toriyama, to keep the fans of the actual animated series happy.
No, it has been stated by Toriyama himself that he had minor involvement in the show's early stages, setting forth the initial premise of the series, as well as creating designs for most of the villains and main characters , including Giru.

It may not be based on a manga and while he did not personally write GT, he did strictly oversee its production.
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Do love DBZ Abridged though.

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Old 05-10-2011, 12:19 PM   #39
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Nappa " oh look vegeta , it's a pokemon ! "
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I love DBZ and I vote for Vegeta!!! He was my favourite character! I wish he would become the main protagonist as the series continued but I was hoping for too much I guess...
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