Who's to blame for Apollo's death? - Page 2

**Jester** · 05-12-2011, 08:59 AM

Maybe if Weird Al had preformed instead Apollo would have lived...

*XERO* · 05-12-2011, 03:43 PM

Nah, he probably woulda got sniped before he got to the ring.

**Jester** · 05-12-2011, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benvenuto

Nah, he probably woulda got sniped before he got to the ring.

Ouch, Benny...Ouch!

*CyberCubed* · 02-13-2017, 02:58 AM

Having watch through these movies just now, all Apollo did is get his ass kicked in every single movie. And every time he acted conceited and underestimated his opponent, thinking he would easily beat them and not taking it seriously.

Seriously, not one time was Apollo humble. You'd think getting beat down by Rocky two times in a row after underestimating him would be a wake up call, but no he does it with the Russian as well and gets killed.

Then after that he gets killed again by the Predator three years later in the jungle so he clearly never learned his lesson.

*ProactiveMan* · 02-13-2017, 03:14 AM

It was Paulie's robot. You saw how thrown Apollo was when he saw it. I can only assume that experience haunted him to the end. How can you expect him to train and fight with a clear head knowing that thing is trundling around Rocky's place doing god-knows-what with Paulie.

*CyberCubed* · 02-13-2017, 12:25 PM

The robot didn't even look that advanced, looked like an oversized children's toy from the 80's.

*MikeandRaph87* · 02-16-2017, 05:28 PM

The answer is Sylvester Stallone looking for meanful and motivation driven drama. Of all of the characters Sylvester and coproducers killed off Carl was the onevwho was most against his character's death. He wanted to come back in Balboa if only for a flashback, but was turned down. Sly wanted his nod for film archive usage only. His position never chanfed as to why not a voice over or archive was used in Creed.

As for the incident itself,all four are to blame. In reality if it did hapoen it would be the refree that blame would fall upon.

Rocky didn't throw in the towel like Mrs. Creed wanted in an effort to adhere to his friends's wish not to until Rocky realized what others that might include Apollo thst if he didn't Apollo would die. Blinded by loyalty to Apollo's character he didnt see it until the fatal punch. Apollo perhaps realized after round one what was going to hapoen and wanted to go down that way as a fighter.

*Andrew NDB* · 02-16-2017, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

He wanted to come back in Balboa if only for a flashback, but was turned down.

False. He told Stallone he wanted Apollo to be alive in the movie, basically retconning away Rocky 4, and of course Stallone said no way.

*CyberCubed* · 02-16-2017, 06:06 PM

That's one of the worst ideas I've heard in some time. There's no way that would have worked. Even Apollo faking his death would have made no sense either.

*MikeandRaph87* · 02-16-2017, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

False. He told Stallone he wanted Apollo to be alive in the movie, basically retconning away Rocky 4, and of course Stallone said no way.

Isn't that what I just said?

Carl wanted a part in the film when Sly approached him about request for approval of using his likeness in archive footage, but Carl wanted a role.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 02-16-2017, 07:19 PM

Maybe Carl was thinking, "well heck, Rocky's kid aged a decade in the week between Rocky IV and V... why can't Apollo come back from the dead?"

*MikeandRaph87* · 02-16-2017, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

Maybe Carl was thinking, "well heck, Rocky's kid aged a decade in the week between Rocky IV and V... why can't Apollo come back from the dead?"

Here is a thought, would it have been better for Apollo to be in the hospital fighting for his life or to die? Paulie turned out okay after being assulted by Tommy in the fifth film. I can see it borh ways.

*CyberCubed* · 02-16-2017, 07:41 PM

Paulie just got punched once. Apollo was pummeled to death.

View Poll Results: Who's Fault?
Drago	4	22.22%
The Ref	5	27.78%
Rocky	1	5.56%
Apollo's Pride	5	27.78%
Other	3	16.67%
Voters: 18. You may not vote on this poll

05-12-2011, 08:59 AM	#21
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	Maybe if Weird Al had preformed instead Apollo would have lived... __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

05-12-2011, 03:43 PM	#22
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	Nah, he probably woulda got sniped before he got to the ring. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

02-16-2017, 05:28 PM	#27
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	The answer is Sylvester Stallone looking for meanful and motivation driven drama. Of all of the characters Sylvester and coproducers killed off Carl was the onevwho was most against his character's death. He wanted to come back in Balboa if only for a flashback, but was turned down. Sly wanted his nod for film archive usage only. His position never chanfed as to why not a voice over or archive was used in Creed. As for the incident itself,all four are to blame. In reality if it did hapoen it would be the refree that blame would fall upon. Rocky didn't throw in the towel like Mrs. Creed wanted in an effort to adhere to his friends's wish not to until Rocky realized what others that might include Apollo thst if he didn't Apollo would die. Blinded by loyalty to Apollo's character he didnt see it until the fatal punch. Apollo perhaps realized after round one what was going to hapoen and wanted to go down that way as a fighter. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

02-13-2017, 02:58 AM	#24
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,883	Having watch through these movies just now, all Apollo did is get his ass kicked in every single movie. And every time he acted conceited and underestimated his opponent, thinking he would easily beat them and not taking it seriously. Seriously, not one time was Apollo humble. You'd think getting beat down by Rocky two times in a row after underestimating him would be a wake up call, but no he does it with the Russian as well and gets killed. Then after that he gets killed again by the Predator three years later in the jungle so he clearly never learned his lesson.

02-13-2017, 03:14 AM	#25
ProactiveMan Spooky ghost Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Western Australia Posts: 2,266	It was Paulie's robot. You saw how thrown Apollo was when he saw it. I can only assume that experience haunted him to the end. How can you expect him to train and fight with a clear head knowing that thing is trundling around Rocky's place doing god-knows-what with Paulie.

02-13-2017, 12:25 PM	#26
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,883	The robot didn't even look that advanced, looked like an oversized children's toy from the 80's.

02-16-2017, 06:06 PM	#29
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,883	That's one of the worst ideas I've heard in some time. There's no way that would have worked. Even Apollo faking his death would have made no sense either.

02-16-2017, 07:41 PM	#33
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,883	Paulie just got punched once. Apollo was pummeled to death.