Expectations on the turtles - Page 2

FearlessLeader · 05-13-2011, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Redeemer

This concerns me bc I think that it is very delicate line, bc a leader needs to be serious at times, but it could allow him more room to grow as a leader as well

I would guess that if they are going for more "teen" versions of the characters we are probably going to see Leo flounder a lot in his role as leader especially at first. It could actually be interesting to see, Leonardo torn between wanting to have fun with his brothers, but at the same time knowing he is ultimately responsible for their safety when Splinter is not around.

*Bauer536* · 05-13-2011, 06:17 PM

That would be very interesting. If Leonardo has this dilemma between family and leadership, that would be very tough. As long if he’s disciplined and responsible like always, I won’t mind the idea. But if he’s going to be “honorable” in the new series, doesn’t that mean he’ll be fun with his brothers but serious as a leader? That definitely follows the true character of Leonardo to me.

*Sage Ninja* · 05-13-2011, 08:58 PM

hey do you think the age old Raphael/Leonardo rivilary will be done again in the nick series? Just about every incarnation save the classic series has the Raph/Leo tension in it, and since it seems they are going to make Raph tough and maybe a loner again in this series I guess it's safe to say that Leonardo and Rapahel will be at odds at some point.

Personaly I kind of hope the nick series skips out on the Raph/Leo thing and does something different. I feel to an extent the franchise is a bit too dependant on it and it gets tired after awhile and worse, it almost always means Mike and Don get pushed in the back some how.

*Redeemer* · 05-14-2011, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

hey do you think the age old Raphael/Leonardo rivilary will be done again in the nick series? Just about every incarnation save the classic series has the Raph/Leo tension in it, and since it seems they are going to make Raph tough and maybe a loner again in this series I guess it's safe to say that Leonardo and Rapahel will be at odds at some point.

Personaly I kind of hope the nick series skips out on the Raph/Leo thing and does something different. I feel to an extent the franchise is a bit too dependant on it and it gets tired after awhile and worse, it almost always means Mike and Don get pushed in the back some how.

I think that it is overdone a little, but it is a part of the turtles formula. I think that they should definately put a different spin on it to make it unique and different.

*Bauer536* · 05-14-2011, 06:36 AM

Frankly, here’s how Nick should start off the series: Raph will not be as jealous of Leo for leading the team in the beginning, and he will use sarcastic humor to express his feelings. There may come a point where he may become jealous at his brother, or doubtful that Leo is doing a good job. I’m just saying that Raph should be a little bit friendly, but still have his cynical side. To me if worse comes to worse for their relationship, Raph should soon realize it takes big responsibility to be the leader. I even have an idea about how that could happen. Anyway, I wouldn’t mind seeing the two fight over their perceptions, just as long it doesn’t keep going on and on and on. If Leo and Raph were to argue, I would like it to be settled down now and then. This being said, have Mikey come in to defuse the situation and tell Raph to chill. Also, if Donnie is like the second in command to Leo, he should defend his leader by teaching Raph some common sense (and of course to Leo). All I’m trying to say is they cannot fight forever, and viewers may get tired of it.

**Venom** · 05-14-2011, 12:43 PM

Forgive me for not reading through the full topic yet, but oen thing I would *love* to see revisited in any Turtle medium is the relationship between Raph/Mike. After meeting Casey it seemingly dissolved completely, but the moments that we saw of that bond were priceless, in my opinion anyway.

FearlessLeader · 05-14-2011, 01:30 PM

I personally want to see the Leo and Raph "rivalry" represented in this series. I think for the two characters to come across in a "real and true" fashion to who they are they need to butt heads at times. (At least that's the way it seems to me with them seeming to be doing the more classic Mirage type Raphael)

I do think that the writers need to pay attention though and really work towards making certain every single one of the Turtles get's the same development and the same screen time as much as possible. The Turtles are a team and it is the relationships and conflicts between the four that really make the heart of the story.

*Jephael* · 05-15-2011, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FearlessLeader

I do think that the writers need to pay attention though and really work towards making certain every single one of the Turtles get's the same development and the same screen time as much as possible. The Turtles are a team and it is the relationships and conflicts between the four that really make the heart of the story.

I totally agree on this!

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Originally Posted by FearlessLeader

I personally want to see the Leo and Raph "rivalry" represented in this series. I think for the two characters to come across in a "real and true" fashion to who they are they need to butt heads at times. (At least that's the way it seems to me with them seeming to be doing the more classic Mirage type Raphael)

I'm on the fence about Leo and Raph's relationship. While I agree there should be some conflict, I like seeing them get along.

*Bauer536* · 05-15-2011, 07:07 PM

I couldn’t agree with you more, Jephael. I would love to see that kind of relationship in the new series, both arguing and getting along. Sibling rivalry exists in every family. Even friends don’t have to agree on everything.

Doc_ock_4mugen · 05-16-2011, 11:38 AM

I don't want Moron Mike, Angsty Raph, or the return of the Raph and Leo show... there's also a nerd and a moron, but no one cares about them...

NameGoesHere1066 · 05-16-2011, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc_ock_4mugen

I don't want Moron Mike(...)there's also a nerd and a moron, but no one cares about them...

Ok, you say you don't want a Moron Mikey but then say there is also a moron (Mike). You just contradicted your self.

*Cowabunga Carl* · 05-16-2011, 03:08 PM

I would really like to see Raph and Leo start out with a strong bond. But as they grow that each sees things in a different way. That we see the rift grow between them. I'm tired of always coming in and they get along one moment and not the next. If that's going to be going on give us a reason. Let us see why they act like that. To me it always seemed they had been really close at one point but then something pushed them apart.

*Bauer536* · 05-17-2011, 05:01 AM

They can still get along after the fights, though. I’ve argued with my brother before, but we somehow have a good time together in the end of the fight. So I wouldn’t mind if that happened to Leo and Raph. Truly, even though this could work, I still want to see Leo and Don pairing up together. They usually get along. That reminds me, I tried to ask this question before, but no one has replied yet. So I will ask for the sake of the new series, if anyone has been to the event. I do like Donatello myself, and I’m curious. How will they actually portray him in the new series when he doesn’t have a crush on April? Will he be like every adaptation mixed, e.g. being nice to most humans even though he’s afraid of them? Will he be condescending or rather a translator when no one understands his jargon? Is he still going to have a bo staff with the blade that shoots out of it? That is all for now.

*Donnie* · 05-17-2011, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bauer536

I do like Donatello myself, and I’m curious. How will they actually portray him in the new series when he doesn’t have a crush on April? Will he be like every adaptation mixed, e.g. being nice to most humans even though he’s afraid of them? Will he be condescending or rather a translator when no one understands his jargon? Is he still going to have a bo staff with the blade that shoots out of it? That is all for now.

It's all speculation right now. We've been told from the people who went to the Nick event that in the trailer he's a "smartass nerd," so take that as you may, but it sounds pretty darn cool to me. I personally think he'll be a little of everything; from all adaptations. Most mediums do justice to Donny, even Next Mutation. About the bo staff with the blade...

*Cowabunga Carl* · 05-17-2011, 10:01 PM

I like the blade idea Donny. I just keep hearing Mikey's line about Mousers in my head when this gets brought up. "Great news for the turtles with blades."

*ssjup81* · 05-21-2011, 01:46 AM

I can't speak for 2k3, but, as far as Raph's character, I feel that Archie Raph is a nice balance. He's brooding, but he's not overly angry like all the other mediums (minus OT and TNM to a certain extent [I only remember him being annoyed a lot]) and is a bit sarcastic for it.

I know one thing I wouldn't want to see. Donny crushing on April. I don't know why that bugs me for some reason, but I love the Donny as a "smartass nerd". He came across that way sometimes in the OT series I've noticed...well, I felt he did, and am loving him because of it. Now, him with the blade...not fully cool with.

cryan · 05-24-2011, 06:07 PM

I do want a some humor.Not slapstick or gags but something along the line of one of the guys bursting though a door and hitting a footsoldier unexpectedly.No pizza throwing or anything of that nature.The can balance it out.I am hopefull we will get a trailer of the finnished product.I hope this is going to be on the regular Nick and not Nicktoon which I don't get.

05-13-2011, 08:58 PM	#23
Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,926	hey do you think the age old Raphael/Leonardo rivilary will be done again in the nick series? Just about every incarnation save the classic series has the Raph/Leo tension in it, and since it seems they are going to make Raph tough and maybe a loner again in this series I guess it's safe to say that Leonardo and Rapahel will be at odds at some point. Personaly I kind of hope the nick series skips out on the Raph/Leo thing and does something different. I feel to an extent the franchise is a bit too dependant on it and it gets tired after awhile and worse, it almost always means Mike and Don get pushed in the back some how. __________________ Cassandra: You won't fight me, but will you fight--for him! Cassandra's Revenge ~Tangled the Series ________________________________ http://frankviola.org/2012/01/30/godsviewofawoman/ _______________________________ http://nox-artemis.tumblr.com/post/4...k-and-feminism

05-14-2011, 12:43 PM	#26
Venom Space Knight Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,637	Forgive me for not reading through the full topic yet, but oen thing I would love to see revisited in any Turtle medium is the relationship between Raph/Mike. After meeting Casey it seemingly dissolved completely, but the moments that we saw of that bond were priceless, in my opinion anyway. __________________

05-14-2011, 01:30 PM	#27
FearlessLeader Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Watching Space Heroes Posts: 1,048	I personally want to see the Leo and Raph "rivalry" represented in this series. I think for the two characters to come across in a "real and true" fashion to who they are they need to butt heads at times. (At least that's the way it seems to me with them seeming to be doing the more classic Mirage type Raphael) I do think that the writers need to pay attention though and really work towards making certain every single one of the Turtles get's the same development and the same screen time as much as possible. The Turtles are a team and it is the relationships and conflicts between the four that really make the heart of the story. __________________ Artwork by Jim Lawson

05-16-2011, 11:38 AM	#30
Doc_ock_4mugen Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 389	I don't want Moron Mike, Angsty Raph, or the return of the Raph and Leo show... there's also a nerd and a moron, but no one cares about them... __________________ Mikey might be part of Nick now, but he still loves Miley... I mean Hannah... Stupid Secret Identity!!

05-13-2011, 06:17 PM	#22
Bauer536 Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Location: United States Posts: 1,550	That would be very interesting. If Leonardo has this dilemma between family and leadership, that would be very tough. As long if he’s disciplined and responsible like always, I won’t mind the idea. But if he’s going to be “honorable” in the new series, doesn’t that mean he’ll be fun with his brothers but serious as a leader? That definitely follows the true character of Leonardo to me.

05-14-2011, 06:36 AM	#25
Bauer536 Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Location: United States Posts: 1,550	Frankly, here’s how Nick should start off the series: Raph will not be as jealous of Leo for leading the team in the beginning, and he will use sarcastic humor to express his feelings. There may come a point where he may become jealous at his brother, or doubtful that Leo is doing a good job. I’m just saying that Raph should be a little bit friendly, but still have his cynical side. To me if worse comes to worse for their relationship, Raph should soon realize it takes big responsibility to be the leader. I even have an idea about how that could happen. Anyway, I wouldn’t mind seeing the two fight over their perceptions, just as long it doesn’t keep going on and on and on. If Leo and Raph were to argue, I would like it to be settled down now and then. This being said, have Mikey come in to defuse the situation and tell Raph to chill. Also, if Donnie is like the second in command to Leo, he should defend his leader by teaching Raph some common sense (and of course to Leo). All I’m trying to say is they cannot fight forever, and viewers may get tired of it.

05-15-2011, 07:07 PM	#29
Bauer536 Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Location: United States Posts: 1,550	I couldn’t agree with you more, Jephael. I would love to see that kind of relationship in the new series, both arguing and getting along. Sibling rivalry exists in every family. Even friends don’t have to agree on everything.

05-16-2011, 03:08 PM	#32
Cowabunga Carl Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,384	I would really like to see Raph and Leo start out with a strong bond. But as they grow that each sees things in a different way. That we see the rift grow between them. I'm tired of always coming in and they get along one moment and not the next. If that's going to be going on give us a reason. Let us see why they act like that. To me it always seemed they had been really close at one point but then something pushed them apart.

05-17-2011, 05:01 AM	#33
Bauer536 Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Location: United States Posts: 1,550	They can still get along after the fights, though. I’ve argued with my brother before, but we somehow have a good time together in the end of the fight. So I wouldn’t mind if that happened to Leo and Raph. Truly, even though this could work, I still want to see Leo and Don pairing up together. They usually get along. That reminds me, I tried to ask this question before, but no one has replied yet. So I will ask for the sake of the new series, if anyone has been to the event. I do like Donatello myself, and I’m curious. How will they actually portray him in the new series when he doesn’t have a crush on April? Will he be like every adaptation mixed, e.g. being nice to most humans even though he’s afraid of them? Will he be condescending or rather a translator when no one understands his jargon? Is he still going to have a bo staff with the blade that shoots out of it? That is all for now.

05-17-2011, 10:01 PM	#35
Cowabunga Carl Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,384	I like the blade idea Donny. I just keep hearing Mikey's line about Mousers in my head when this gets brought up. "Great news for the turtles with blades."

05-21-2011, 01:46 AM	#36
ssjup81 Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Central Virginia (Back in the US) Posts: 4,734	I can't speak for 2k3, but, as far as Raph's character, I feel that Archie Raph is a nice balance. He's brooding, but he's not overly angry like all the other mediums (minus OT and TNM to a certain extent [I only remember him being annoyed a lot]) and is a bit sarcastic for it. I know one thing I wouldn't want to see. Donny crushing on April. I don't know why that bugs me for some reason, but I love the Donny as a "smartass nerd". He came across that way sometimes in the OT series I've noticed...well, I felt he did, and am loving him because of it. Now, him with the blade...not fully cool with.

05-24-2011, 06:07 PM	#37
cryan Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Athens,AL Posts: 743	I do want a some humor.Not slapstick or gags but something along the line of one of the guys bursting though a door and hitting a footsoldier unexpectedly.No pizza throwing or anything of that nature.The can balance it out.I am hopefull we will get a trailer of the finnished product.I hope this is going to be on the regular Nick and not Nicktoon which I don't get.