Seth MacFarlane Gets Go-ahead to Reboot The Flintstones

[Jester]

Originally Posted by gobo

DON'T GIVE HIM IDEAS!!

DINO TALKS!!!

I'm sorry...

Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

And that was probably a joke.

And, yes it was....mine.

[BubblyShell22]

I think it's awesome that Seth is doing this. I love Family Guy. Heck, it's way better than The Simpsons these days.

[XERO]

[Jester]

I think it's terrible that Seth is doing this. I hate Family Guy. Heck, The Simpsons is way better than it these days.

[BubblyShell22]

Maybe for you, but not for me. The Simpsons has fallen flat in terms of comedy. Yeah, FG hasn't been that funny lately, but it hasn't gone the route of The Simpsons yet.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Jester

So Pebbles will be a teenager that everyone hates and they'll have an idiot son and a 3rd kid that is actually the spawn of Wilma and the Great Gazzoo?

That's about what I'm expecting. And here I thought that it couldn't get any worse than "The Flintstones: On the Rocks." I don't know who would be more ill-suited to reinterpret the Flintstones: MacFarlane or John Kricfalusi (anybody seen his takes on The Jetsons and Yogi Bear? Oy...).

[gobo]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I don't know who would be more ill-suited to reinterpret the Flintstones: MacFarlane or John Kricfalusi

No doubt about it, John K is worse. His stuff has always been painful to watch. >_<

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

anybody seen his takes on The Jetsons and Yogi Bear?

Wasn't aware he (inappropriately) touched Jetsons, but I'm glad I missed it.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

Maybe for you, but not for me. The Simpsons has fallen flat in terms of comedy. Yeah, FG hasn't been that funny lately, but it hasn't gone the route of The Simpsons yet.

Family Guy also hasn't ever been close to touching The Simpsons in their heyday, so there's also that to take into account. The Simpsons was so good that it had much further to fall. Family Guy has always just kinda been...well, Family Guy.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by gobo

No doubt about it, John K is worse. His stuff has always been painful to watch. >_<

Wasn't aware he (inappropriately) touched Jetsons, but I'm glad I missed it.

I'm probably in agreement. I at least believe MacFarlane respects the source material, whereas John K. believes himself to be the sole authority on good animation and the heir apparent to the classic Warner Bros. tradition. He's gone on record repeatedly for his distaste of all things Hanna-Barbera.

[Jester]

Wow, John K. is a veediot....

I think the only thing he did that i liked was Close But No Cigar.

[ssjup81]

As long as it doesn't turn out to be Family Guy with Flintstone characters, I'll be okay with it...hopefully.

Ironically, I'm one of those who did like pretty much all the Flintstone series after the original one. I loved the Flintstone Comedy Hour, Pebbles & Bamm-Bamm Show, The New Flinstones (well, not too much), and I liked the Flintsone specials that were out (like the one where Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm got married and had twins), and I also liked the Jetsons Meet the Flintstones movie. Didn't care for the live-action films.

Anywho, as long as it doesn't turn out to be another Family Guy-like show, I might be okay with it.

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

That's about what I'm expecting. And here I thought that it couldn't get any worse than "The Flintstones: On the Rocks." I don't know who would be more ill-suited to reinterpret the Flintstones: MacFarlane or John Kricfalusi (anybody seen his takes on The Jetsons and Yogi Bear? Oy...).

I've seen John K.'s take on Yogi Bear, which was highly disturbing for me, especially since, as a kid, I loved Yogi Bear cartoons. That "log cabin" joke was weird. >< Didn't know he did anything on the Jetsons and glad I didn't see that. My mind is still scarred from the Ren & Stimpy stuff. Here I thought it was going to be like Nick's version, then I saw that and was like,

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I'm probably in agreement. I at least believe MacFarlane respects the source material, whereas John K. believes himself to be the sole authority on good animation and the heir apparent to the classic Warner Bros. tradition. He's gone on record repeatedly for his distaste of all things Hanna-Barbera.

Well, that explains a lot about John K. Seth does seem to respect the source material, even if he's goofing on it. John K. is just weird and disturbing. He actually sounds like he has a major ego problem, and seems he comes across as being pretty arrogant.

I will say this, though, if John ever touched Johnny Quest, which to me is one of the greatest older toons that HB ever put out (along with 40s/50s Tom & Jerry), I'd scream my head off and want to meet him personally, and slap him with an anvil (I know, I went WB there ).

[BubblyShell22]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Family Guy also hasn't ever been close to touching The Simpsons in their heyday, so there's also that to take into account. The Simpsons was so good that it had much further to fall. Family Guy has always just kinda been...well, Family Guy.

I do agree that FG will never live up to The Simpsons. However, I still liked earlier seasons of FG. I think what's made it fall flat is when they got rid of Cleveland and made him his own show, which also isn't that good. I'll still watch FG because it's not as bad as The Simpsons is. With FG, I can still laugh a little bit, but with The Simpsons, I barely find anything funny anymore.

[Jester]

I guess I'm in the minority that thinks the Simpsons is actually improving of late...or maybe it's my total disdain for FG that's causing me to be biased.

[ssjup81]

I actually prefer earlier Family Guy eps to later ones, and I guess that has a lot to do with the fact that the later eps bash Meg a lot and they don't seem much like a "family" anymore. I also miss Damion Stewie, ya know?

I can still watch later Family Guy eps, but I'm at a point now where I can either take it or leave it.

[Venom]

Originally Posted by Jester

Actually if you read Seth's Twitter, he said he was going to take the old Flintstones source material and "destroy every last bit of it. It'll be my Flintstones or nothing. Suck it, America!"

I just did and couldn't find it...from what I have seen the show will use the same designs and share the same tone as the classics.

Originally Posted by Jester

I guess I'm in the minority that thinks the Simpsons is actually improving of late...or maybe it's my total disdain for FG that's causing me to be biased.

Heh, for me, the Simpsons is becoming more like Family Guy as of late. Now we have two shows featuring Homer Griffin and Peter Simpson!

[Abnormal Freak]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I'm probably in agreement. I at least believe MacFarlane respects the source material, whereas John K. believes himself to be the sole authority on good animation and the heir apparent to the classic Warner Bros. tradition. He's gone on record repeatedly for his distaste of all things Hanna-Barbera.

He has? :p Everything I've read of his he's said the exact opposite. He loves the late '50s to mid '60s H-B shows (Yogi Bear, The Jetsons, and especially The Flintstones) but loathes Scooby-Doo (which neither Bill Hanna nor Joe Barbera had anything to do with, creatively). He even did artwork for the early '90s Flintstones LaserDisc collection. He's gone on record plenty of times professing his love for the early TV era H-B cartoons and other TV cartoons from around that time period; he isn't solely a lover of '40s WB and Clampett cartoons.

Anyway, I love John K.'s H-B cartoons, ha ha. Wonderfully demented and funny. Family Guy...never funny. Hearing that Seth MacFarlane is making a Flintstones cartoon makes me groan heavily.

(And just so nobody gets the wrong impression, I don't grovel at the groin of Kricfalusi, I just really, really like his cartoons. He has a lot of opinions on cartoons that I strongly disagree with, but so what? People have their differences, and I don't hold it against John for having the opinions and standards he has and the way he expresses them.)

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Venom

I just did and couldn't find it...from what I have seen the show will use the same designs and share the same tone as the classics.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Abnormal Freak

He has? :p Everything I've read of his he's said the exact opposite. He loves the late '50s to mid '60s H-B shows (Yogi Bear, The Jetsons, and especially The Flintstones) but loathes Scooby-Doo (which neither Bill Hanna nor Joe Barbera had anything to do with, creatively). He even did artwork for the early '90s Flintstones LaserDisc collection. He's gone on record plenty of times professing his love for the early TV era H-B cartoons and other TV cartoons from around that time period; he isn't solely a lover of '40s WB and Clampett cartoons.

You might be right on that point. I was thinking back to his various commentaries on the Looney Tunes Golden Collection. I didn't even know that H&B didn't work on Scooby-Doo.

Also, John K. pretty much despises Chuck Jones's work on Looney Tunes, right? I seem to remember that as well.

John K.'s moto seems to be that "it ain't good animation if the characters don't look like they're made of rubber."

[Abnormal Freak]

Kricfalusi likes and admires Jones as an artist, and likes his cartoons, but not to the degree he likes Clampett. He also doesn't like the way Jones himself pretty much made the change in Daffy Duck's character from looney tune to jealous jerkwad. :p Which is something I totally agree on. It's not that the jerk Daffy is a bad character, he's just...no longer Daffy, in my opinion.

I remember reading a blog post by Kricfalusi about meeting Joe Barbera (I think it was; might've been Hanna) in his office sometime in the '80s. I think he was trying to sell a pitch or find work or something. John supposedly expressed his love for early Hanna-Barbera TV shows as well as his disdain for Scooby-Doo, and purportedly Joe (or Bill—whoever it was) slammed his fist down on his desk and said, "I agree! It's all about a bunch of damn hippies running around!" ;p

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Abnormal Freak

Kricfalusi likes and admires Jones as an artist, and likes his cartoons, but not to the degree he likes Clampett. He also doesn't like the way Jones himself pretty much made the change in Daffy Duck's character from looney tune to jealous jerkwad. :p Which is something I totally agree on. It's not that the jerk Daffy is a bad character, he's just...no longer Daffy, in my opinion.

Ah, that's what I remember about John K. on Chuck Jones. Eh... what can I say the Jones "Hunting Trilogy" is right up there with my favorite Looney Tunes stuff. And Jones redefined Daffy's character so memorably that the earlier looney version strikes most contemporary viewers as odd and "out of character." It's ironic, really, but I don't think Jones deserves any of the hate that John K. gives him for that.

Originally Posted by Abnormal Freak

I remember reading a blog post by Kricfalusi about meeting Joe Barbera (I think it was; might've been Hanna) in his office sometime in the '80s. I think he was trying to sell a pitch or find work or something. John supposedly expressed his love for early Hanna-Barbera TV shows as well as his disdain for Scooby-Doo, and purportedly Joe (or Bill—whoever it was) slammed his fist down on his desk and said, "I agree! It's all about a bunch of damn hippies running around!" ;p

That's a pretty hilarious story. But... honestly, the Scooby-Doo series is my favorite of all the H&B properties.