So um... Old Hob, huh? - Page 2

azrael · 05-23-2011, 02:21 PM

I guess technically we should be saying IDW vol 6 of TMNT...

vol 1 mirage
vol 2 archie
vol 3 mirage
vol 4 image
vol 5 mirage
vol 6 idw

*DrSpengler* · 05-23-2011, 02:21 PM

On topic:

I don't mind Old Hob, at least so VERY LITTLE we know about him at this juncture. Seriously, all we know is that he's a mutant cat and he's a villain. Why all the complaining? I know this is the internet and all, but c'mon.

I love the Mirage TMNT and the Fred Wolf/Archie TMNT on almost equal terms, so I have no qualms with the Turtles encountering lots and lots of bizarre mutant animals in their adventures, so long as those characters and situations are written well.

And I have no problem with Waltz using Mirage as a foundation while drawing ideas and inspiration from other incarnations of the TMNT. I don't think any concepts should be "off limits" to writers and they should be allowed to pick and choose what portions of the vast TMNT mythos they wish to draw inspiration from.

In fact, the idea that ideas OUTSIDE of Mirage will make appearances in this comic actually has me even MORE excited for it.

azrael · 05-23-2011, 02:32 PM

Do we know that the cat is a villian or just a villian? if that makes since maybe the cat will get un-mutated and become clunk

*Spitfire* · 05-23-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by azrael

I guess technically we should be saying IDW vol 6 of TMNT...

vol 1 mirage
vol 2 archie
vol 3 mirage
vol 4 image
vol 5 mirage
vol 6 idw

No we shouldn't be saying that at all. The volume numbering only applied to the books being worked on by Mirage, and yes I count Image in that as well. Archie started out as a book based off the animated series, has nothing what so ever to do with Mirage. IDW is a complete reboot, has nothing to do with Mirage. The volume numbering doesn't apply.

If you for some reason have to number it though IDW would be volume 7. You forgot to add the DW books to that list. It would be 9 if you added the Tales volumes as well.

As for this cat guy I didn't read the article in depth but did they state he'd be the villain in the very first book? He wouldn't be the first time the turtles fought a mutant cat, they did so in a Tales book even. Not against it at all really. I just want to see where this series goes and I hope the artwork is good.

**Venom** · 05-23-2011, 02:41 PM

I'm interested in seeing how the tale of Old Hob goes.

wilddiverse · 05-23-2011, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

He wouldn't be the first time the turtles fought a mutant cat, they did so in a Tales book even.

The turtles also fight demonic Schrödinger's cats in the Spanish TMNT collection's v1 #8 stand-in.

*discordiatookie* · 05-23-2011, 03:31 PM

Sounds good to me. Glad to see that things are getting mixed up!

*CyberCubed* · 05-23-2011, 03:32 PM

I am curious as to how Ryan Brown feels about this. It's like they used his idea and made a new character out of it.

I also don't think Old Hob will be a one shot, he seems like the type of character you'd expect to be recurring, especially with his backstory.

Most new characters created by new writers tend to stick around. We will be seeing a lot of Old Hob, I am sure.

*Andrew NDB* · 05-23-2011, 03:38 PM

I would be surprised if ever, at any point in any creative roundtable discussions about Old Hob the action figure of "Scratch" was ever brought up or mentioned beyond peripherally (if that).

PAAATE · 05-23-2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I am curious as to how Ryan Brown feels about this. It's like they used his idea and made a new character out of it.

Yeah, a mutant cat really is soo original, no one could ever make one up except him :/

wilddiverse · 05-23-2011, 04:01 PM

It's just such an injustice. Scratch has such a rich backstory: he was a toy the manufacturers didn't bother to produce many of. That's Shakespearean tragedy, that is.

*ToTheNines* · 05-23-2011, 04:28 PM

~~AquaParade~~ · 05-23-2011, 05:47 PM

Man Cybercubed, you've sure worked everyone up. Can't you guys just relax and ignore him if you disagree with his perspective to such an extent?

That being said, the urban dictionary post is pretty funny

**Jester** · 05-23-2011, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I am curious as to how Ryan Brown feels about this. It's like they used his idea and made a new character out of it.

I also don't think Old Hob will be a one shot, he seems like the type of character you'd expect to be recurring, especially with his backstory.

Most new characters created by new writers tend to stick around. We will be seeing a lot of Old Hob, I am sure.

Cubed...we don't have a back story for Hob yet...

*PizzaPower* · 05-23-2011, 06:52 PM

i think one thing that we need to do is get the old tmnt out our heads a little bit and just be open minded and be ready for a new TMNT.

TomWaltz · 05-23-2011, 07:21 PM

Old Hob's already getting under everyone's skin... I love it! It's what bad guys do.

Thanks for being so passionate about TMNT, everyone -- we're gonna have fun, I promise!

Tom Waltz

~~AquaParade~~ · 05-23-2011, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TomWaltz

Old Hob's already getting under everyone's skin... I love it! It's what bad guys do.

Thanks for being so passionate about TMNT, everyone -- we're gonna have fun, I promise!

Tom Waltz

Woohoo!

Glad to have you aboard, Tom!

If you get a chance... What is your favorite aspect of the tmnt mythos?

**Jester** · 05-24-2011, 05:25 AM

Indeed, welcome Tom.

I can't believe you guys would steal from Ryan Brown like that. Have you no shame?

*oldmanwinters* · 05-24-2011, 08:38 AM

Welcome aboard the forums, Tom! It's exciting to see the new TMNT comic taking shape.

A word of advice...

Most TMNT fans really appreciate when the creative team interacts with the fanbase, but don't lose too much sleep if a few people get agitated over seemingly inconsequential details.

TomWaltz · 05-24-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Welcome aboard the forums, Tom! It's exciting to see the new TMNT comic taking shape.

A word of advice...

Most TMNT fans really appreciate when the creative team interacts with the fanbase, but don't lose too much sleep if a few people get agitated over seemingly inconsequential details.

No worries, oldmanwinters -- I've worked on Silent Hill and Ghostbusters... I know how passionate fans can get on the forums. I'm all for mature, civil debate -- it's part of the fun, far as I'm concerned. All I ask from my fellow TMNT fans is this: if you're gonna get nasty on the boards, at least have the cojones to use your real name and not some anonymous tag. If you can't back up your words with your true self, then those words aren't worth much in my opinion. I'm an old Marine and can take a lot of punishment, but cowardly cyber bullies, whether you are 14 or 41, are gonna be ignored.

That said, I really do enjoy reading what everyone is saying and I understand the apprehension about a new TMNT series. Just know that we truly WANT this to be a great new addition to this beloved franchise and we are sweating over every word we write and every line we draw. We're fans, too -- Kevin, Dan, and myself (and everyone at IDW and Nickelodeon) -- and we are working hard to create something we'd want to collect ourselves, even if we weren't directly involved with the series.

So let's rock, folks! It's gonna be crazy fun!

Tom Waltz

05-23-2011, 02:21 PM	#21
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Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,560	I would be surprised if ever, at any point in any creative roundtable discussions about Old Hob the action figure of "Scratch" was ever brought up or mentioned beyond peripherally (if that). __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

05-23-2011, 02:21 PM	#22
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	On topic: I don't mind Old Hob, at least so VERY LITTLE we know about him at this juncture. Seriously, all we know is that he's a mutant cat and he's a villain. Why all the complaining? I know this is the internet and all, but c'mon. I love the Mirage TMNT and the Fred Wolf/Archie TMNT on almost equal terms, so I have no qualms with the Turtles encountering lots and lots of bizarre mutant animals in their adventures, so long as those characters and situations are written well. And I have no problem with Waltz using Mirage as a foundation while drawing ideas and inspiration from other incarnations of the TMNT. I don't think any concepts should be "off limits" to writers and they should be allowed to pick and choose what portions of the vast TMNT mythos they wish to draw inspiration from. In fact, the idea that ideas OUTSIDE of Mirage will make appearances in this comic actually has me even MORE excited for it.

05-23-2011, 03:32 PM	#28
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,881	I am curious as to how Ryan Brown feels about this. It's like they used his idea and made a new character out of it. I also don't think Old Hob will be a one shot, he seems like the type of character you'd expect to be recurring, especially with his backstory. Most new characters created by new writers tend to stick around. We will be seeing a lot of Old Hob, I am sure.

05-23-2011, 04:01 PM	#31
wilddiverse Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Chicago-ish Posts: 698	It's just such an injustice. Scratch has such a rich backstory: he was a toy the manufacturers didn't bother to produce many of. That's Shakespearean tragedy, that is.

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05-23-2011, 05:47 PM	#33
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	Man Cybercubed, you've sure worked everyone up. Can't you guys just relax and ignore him if you disagree with his perspective to such an extent? That being said, the urban dictionary post is pretty funny

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PizzaPower Foot Elite Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pizza Parlor Posts: 3,200	i think one thing that we need to do is get the old tmnt out our heads a little bit and just be open minded and be ready for a new TMNT. __________________ https://www.twitch.tv/turtlepizzapower

05-23-2011, 07:21 PM	#36
TomWaltz Official TMNT Staff/Cast Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 510	Old Hob's already getting under everyone's skin... I love it! It's what bad guys do. Thanks for being so passionate about TMNT, everyone -- we're gonna have fun, I promise! Tom Waltz

05-24-2011, 05:25 AM	#38
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	Indeed, welcome Tom. I can't believe you guys would steal from Ryan Brown like that. Have you no shame? __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

05-24-2011, 08:38 AM	#39
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,504	Welcome aboard the forums, Tom! It's exciting to see the new TMNT comic taking shape. A word of advice... Most TMNT fans really appreciate when the creative team interacts with the fanbase, but don't lose too much sleep if a few people get agitated over seemingly inconsequential details. __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!