The Official E3 2011 Thread - Page 6

Peanut · 05-30-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Redeemer

And second Mass Effect is an RPG and the storyline and character is dictated by the player, therefore there is no set character identity. Therefore my Sheppard might be stupid, but urs might be awesome

First of all, he said JRPG. Mass Effect is any kind of RPG it's a Western one.

Second, have you ever even played Mass Effect? Shepard isn't a blank slate character. In fact very little about Shepard's actual identity or personality are truly up to the player, you get to make choices on a lot of things, but they're all arbitrary and most of the time you're just using different means to get to the same end.

Sheppard can never be "stupid" he can only ever be awesome. It's just your choice whether he's awesome in a "talk this bad guy into giving you information" way, or awesome in the "kick a bad guy out of a window instead of asking questions" way.

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

I sure as hell care about what Kojima does. He's my favorite developer, and I'm definitely not alone in that. Don't let this "bubble" of a message board fool you. There ARE other opinions out there.

Why the f*ck do you think parroting the thoughts of other people makes any of your opinions more valid? And if you have such a HUGE problem with this forum, why the hell don't you just leave?

~~AquaParade~~ · 05-30-2011, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

Why the f*ck do you think parroting the thoughts of other people makes any of your opinions more valid? And if you have such a HUGE problem with this forum, why the hell don't you just leave?

There is a difference between copying other peoples thoughts, and confirming that there are people other then me with the same opinion, Peanut. Don't be so dense. My point was that despite everyone here not being too interested in Kojima, there are people outside of our technodrome bubble who are interested. I didn't say I had a problem with this forum, I just called it a "bubble". You need to learn to take what people say for what it is. Don't twist my words.

*That Matt Guy* · 05-30-2011, 12:33 PM

In before an entire page of Peanut ripping AquaParade a new one.

*The Stryker* · 05-30-2011, 12:34 PM

Oh yeah. Zone of enders. The talk of the gaming world! Boktai too! All of these awesome games that everyone talks about all the time.

The sun was seriously in my hands.

~~AquaParade~~ · 05-30-2011, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker

Oh yeah. Zone of enders. The talk of the gaming world! Boktai too! All of these awesome games that everyone talks about all the time.

The sun was seriously in my hands.

Don't forget that Japan probably loves Zone of the Enders much more then we do. Kojima is super popular over there. You do have a fair point though. ZOE isn't huge to everyone, but I feel that my point still stands: Anything Kojima announces is a big deal for Sony. The game will sell. Many Sony fans will be excited.

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Originally Posted by That Matt Guy

In before an entire page of Peanut ripping AquaParade a new one.

Right? I can't wait to see what new insults he comes up with, while at the same time side-stepping any points that were actually made.

Peanut · 05-30-2011, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

There is a difference between copying other peoples thoughts, and confirming that there are people other then me with the same opinion, Peanut. Don't be so dense. My point was that despite everyone here not being too interested in Kojima, there are people outside of our technodrome bubble who are interested.

Again with the comprehension problem!? REALLY!? I didn't say you were copying other peoples thoughts. I said you were stating the opinions of other people in order to make your own seem more valid.

MY point is that why does the fact that other people share the same opinion matter in the least? Whenever you do that it looks like you're trying to justify your opinion because you can't let it stand on its own.

Why the hell do any of us care what other people think? If you've got an opinion state it and shut the f*ck up, don't try and qualify it with meaningless sh*t no one cares about.

You are the biggest f*cking clown to ever come in here. You're one of those ignorant f*cks who can't make a point for your argument, then resorts to being "above it all" when you get proven wrong. If I'm the one who's constantly unable to back up my opinions, why is it that everyone in here thinks you're a f*cking retard?

~~AquaParade~~ · 05-30-2011, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

Again with the comprehension problem!? REALLY!? I didn't say you were copying other peoples thoughts. I said you were stating the opinions of other people in order to make your own seem more valid.

MY point is that why does the fact that other people share the same opinion matter in the least? Whenever you do that it looks like you're trying to justify your opinion because you can't let it stand on its own.

Why the hell do any of us care what other people think? If you've got an opinion state it and shut the f*ck up, don't try and qualify it with meaningless sh*t no one cares about.

Peanut, read again. I comprehended what you meant. Jesus. You said I was parroting people's opinions = copying their opinions. You do know that's what parroting means, right? I mean you used the word...Anyways that's not the issue. If you still don't think I got your point, read on...

We are talking about who will "win" E3 in the eyes of the public. If you think only our opinions matter on the grand scale of who is going to have the best E3, you are kidding yourself.

I was talking on a grander scale, dumbass lol. Read the whole convo before jumping in. When discussing the big picture of Sony's success, other peoples opinions do matter. Understand?

If talking about your personal feelings over who "wins" E3, then yea, I shouldn't be hiding behind the opinions of raging Kojima fans. Unfortunately, that isn't what I was discussing. I only brought in my personal opinion to say that Sony will steal the show, for me PERSONALLY, if there is some good Kojima stuff.

Peanut · 05-30-2011, 12:46 PM

Did you miss the part where I said you were parroting (as in REPEATING words like A PARROT DOES) other peoples opinions so as to validate your OWN!? Again, clearly you did not comprehend what I was saying.

And I didn't even say anything on the subject of E3 yet. NOTHING! Where did you see me state opinions of winners and losers at E3!? Are you just making things up in your f*cking mind now!? I was speaking to you, VERY SPECIFICALLY, on the fact that you constantly use the opinions of others to justify your own. Nothing else involving E3 or Kojima or anything! I didn't even jump in on this conversation anywhere at all!

And I'm always of the "wait and see" mindset when it comes to E3. Also, saying someone "wins" E3 is a thing of the past. People need to grow the hell up.

愛 · 05-30-2011, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker

Oh yeah. Zone of enders. The talk of the gaming world! Boktai too! All of these awesome games that everyone talks about all the time.

The sun was seriously in my hands.

Have you even played any Kojima game besides Metal Gear Solid?

~~AquaParade~~ · 05-30-2011, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

Did you miss the part where I said you were parroting (as in REPEATING words like A PARROT DOES) other peoples opinions so as to validate your OWN!? Again, clearly you did not comprehend what I was saying.

And I didn't even say anything on the subject of E3 yet. NOTHING! Where did you see me state opinions of winners and losers at E3!? Are you just making things up in your f*cking mind now!? I was speaking to you, VERY SPECIFICALLY, on the fact that you constantly use the opinions of others to justify your own. Nothing else involving E3 or Kojima or anything! I didn't even jump in on this conversation anywhere at all!

And I'm always of the "wait and see" mindset when it comes to E3. Also, saying someone "wins" E3 is a thing of the past. People need to grow the hell up.

I really tried with this kid. But, he doesn't seem to acknowledge the context of the conversation he walked into: " Who do you think will 'win' E3?" For those of you who can comprehend, this is why I brought in examples of people who share my opinions. Because in the grand scheme of who "wins" E3, you need to take into account other peoples opinions. Most of you get that, some of you don.t

P.S. Parroting = repeating = copying.

Peanut · 05-30-2011, 01:06 PM

And he just said I side-step points that were made. I can't deal with this kind of stupidity anymore. Finally gonna break out that block feature.

*The Stryker* · 05-30-2011, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ai

Have you even played any Kojima game besides Metal Gear Solid?

Played Boktai and Enders. I guess that last Castlevania game too if you count that. It's not really a huge list.

Didn't care for any of them but I wasn't talking about their quality.

~~AquaParade~~ · 05-30-2011, 01:08 PM

The funny thing is, I was still addressing the points, I was just side-stepping Peanut

Yea Stryker did have a fair point, in feeling that a Z.O.E announcement wouldn't really rock the Western-gaming world. But, I'd still say it'd make a huge splash in Japan...ya know..Sony's crib?

*Brodie* · 05-30-2011, 01:10 PM

Stop with the ****ing emoticons. Jesus H Christ.

愛 · 05-30-2011, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker

Played Boktai and Enders. I guess that last Castlevania game too if you count that. It's not really a huge list.

Didn't care for any of them but I wasn't talking about their quality.

I personally liked Enders, but never played Boktai. I definitely like Snatcher and Policenauts, in my opinion some of his best work.

~~AquaParade~~ · 05-30-2011, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodie

Stop with the ****ing emoticons. Jesus H Christ.

......................nah.

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Originally Posted by Ai

I personally liked Enders, but never played Boktai. I definitely like Snatcher and Policenauts, in my opinion some of his best work.

Ai, have you seen the latest image of hideo with the screen in the background? My eyes aren't the best, but it looks a lot to me like an image of a robot wearing a suit. Snatcher?

*Turo602* · 05-30-2011, 01:14 PM

Saying that someone will win E3 is kinda dumb. As long as we get good stuff everywhere I'm good. Yeah, some people will announce more things than others but a real gamer would care about what everyone has to offer.

~~AquaParade~~ · 05-30-2011, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Turo602

Saying that someone will win E3 is kinda dumb. As long as we get good stuff everywhere I'm good. Yeah, some people will announce more things than others but a real gamer would care about what everyone has to offer.

I suppose you can call it dumb. It seemed like a good question, by Deadpool, to stir up some conversation, to me. Not like we really need to define anyone as having won. What's even dumber is pretending there is such thing as a "real gamer".

愛 · 05-30-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

Ai, have you seen the latest image of hideo with the screen in the background? My eyes aren't the best, but it looks a lot to me like an image of a robot wearing a suit. Snatcher?

Kojima will never bring Snatcher back. It had horrible sales when it came out on Sega CD, a console barely anyone bought, anyway. It has a cult follow, to be sure, but not nearly enough to warrant millions of dollars for development.

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

I suppose you can call it dumb. It seemed like a good question, by Deadpool, to stir up some conversation, to me. Not like we really need to define anyone as having won. What's even dumber is pretending there is such thing as a "real gamer".

Are you going to tell me that GRRRRRL GAMERZ are still considered gamers? People who are like "So I was playing Black Ops, lol....yes, I'm a girl, don't hit on me silly boys!" You would call them gamers? I call them people I wanna hit with a nail-covered baseball bat.

Peanut · 05-30-2011, 01:21 PM

Kind of annoying, but it'll do until he gets banned from this section, which is inevitable.

Anyways, on the topic of E3, I'm looking forward to all 3 conferences. I hope Microsoft drops some new stuff, which they have to if they want to handle Sony's first-party line-up for the year, even though I don't think they have a chance of being able to handle Uncharted 3 or Last Guardian, no matter what they announce.

With Sony, I kinda just want a date for Last Guardian. I don't want to hear/see Uncharted 3 as I'd much rather be surprised by all of it, but I'm sure they'll have some big cinematic section of the game to show off. NGP/PSVita (dumb) I could care less about unless it has some kind of mind-blowing graphical capabilities and even then, I care less and less about handhelds. Give me my console experiences on a console please.

Nintendo I'm most excited for, but I feel like it could also be the biggest let-down if we don't get some Project Cafe demo's. They'll probably wait until the end before they start talking about Project Cafe and even then it might just be a little information, but hopefully they'll have something. Something to really show that Project Cafe has some power behind it would be nice. Ultra detailed HD Link or something. Also looking forward to NSMB3, which I hope is as awesome as it is in my head.

Other than that, I'm looking forward to some surprise announcements that excite me, last year was definitely something of a let down.

05-30-2011, 12:34 PM	#104
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	Oh yeah. Zone of enders. The talk of the gaming world! Boktai too! All of these awesome games that everyone talks about all the time. The sun was seriously in my hands. __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

05-30-2011, 01:10 PM	#114
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	Stop with the ****ing emoticons. Jesus H Christ. __________________ Stupendous Monster

05-30-2011, 01:14 PM	#117
Turo602 The King of Kings Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Illinois Posts: 2,931	Saying that someone will win E3 is kinda dumb. As long as we get good stuff everywhere I'm good. Yeah, some people will announce more things than others but a real gamer would care about what everyone has to offer. __________________

05-30-2011, 12:33 PM	#103
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	In before an entire page of Peanut ripping AquaParade a new one.

05-30-2011, 12:46 PM	#108
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Did you miss the part where I said you were parroting (as in REPEATING words like A PARROT DOES) other peoples opinions so as to validate your OWN!? Again, clearly you did not comprehend what I was saying. And I didn't even say anything on the subject of E3 yet. NOTHING! Where did you see me state opinions of winners and losers at E3!? Are you just making things up in your f*cking mind now!? I was speaking to you, VERY SPECIFICALLY, on the fact that you constantly use the opinions of others to justify your own. Nothing else involving E3 or Kojima or anything! I didn't even jump in on this conversation anywhere at all! And I'm always of the "wait and see" mindset when it comes to E3. Also, saying someone "wins" E3 is a thing of the past. People need to grow the hell up.

05-30-2011, 01:06 PM	#111
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	And he just said I side-step points that were made. I can't deal with this kind of stupidity anymore. Finally gonna break out that block feature.

05-30-2011, 01:08 PM	#113
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	The funny thing is, I was still addressing the points, I was just side-stepping Peanut Yea Stryker did have a fair point, in feeling that a Z.O.E announcement wouldn't really rock the Western-gaming world. But, I'd still say it'd make a huge splash in Japan...ya know..Sony's crib?

05-30-2011, 01:21 PM	#120
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Kind of annoying, but it'll do until he gets banned from this section, which is inevitable. Anyways, on the topic of E3, I'm looking forward to all 3 conferences. I hope Microsoft drops some new stuff, which they have to if they want to handle Sony's first-party line-up for the year, even though I don't think they have a chance of being able to handle Uncharted 3 or Last Guardian, no matter what they announce. With Sony, I kinda just want a date for Last Guardian. I don't want to hear/see Uncharted 3 as I'd much rather be surprised by all of it, but I'm sure they'll have some big cinematic section of the game to show off. NGP/PSVita (dumb) I could care less about unless it has some kind of mind-blowing graphical capabilities and even then, I care less and less about handhelds. Give me my console experiences on a console please. Nintendo I'm most excited for, but I feel like it could also be the biggest let-down if we don't get some Project Cafe demo's. They'll probably wait until the end before they start talking about Project Cafe and even then it might just be a little information, but hopefully they'll have something. Something to really show that Project Cafe has some power behind it would be nice. Ultra detailed HD Link or something. Also looking forward to NSMB3, which I hope is as awesome as it is in my head. Other than that, I'm looking forward to some surprise announcements that excite me, last year was definitely something of a let down.